Subject: Re: This is exactly why Hillary lost.
On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 12:17:13 PM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 12:01:20 PM UTC-6, risky biz wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 4:27:57 AM UTC-8, irishra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > “Shattered; Hillary Clinton’s Doomed Campaign”
> > > By Jonathan Allen & Amie Parnes
> > >
> > > This is an excellent book, written by two very experienced campaign insiders and should be
mandatory reading for every political science student in America. It tells the story of just how
incredibly out of touch the Democrat party had become with the white working class voters that used
to be a loyal part of its base. And how Hillary Clinton was one of the most flawed Presidential
candidates in American history and spent more than $1.2 billion dollars to lose a Presidential
election and devastate her party.Several things in this book amazed me including the sheer size and
scope of the Clinton political machine. It was truly astounding! Hillary had dozens of staffers,
analysts, publicists, writers, researchers, consultants, advisors and volunteers. Not to mention
the support of the DNC, big labor unions, all the major TV networks (except Fox News) billionaire
George Soros and countless Hollywood stars and celebrities. Her campaign raised and spent more than
a $billion dollars.
> > >
> > > In some cases Hillary had up to 20 people writing, reviewing, editing and poll testing every
page and every word of her speeches. In addition, they relied extensively on sophisticated voter
models and analytics. So, with all this money and all of these smart, experienced people, how did
Hillary Clinton manage to run such a shockingly inept campaign, get totally blind-sided by Donald
Trump and lose the election? There were three (3) main reasons:
> > >
> > > 1. She was a terrible candidate. “Awkward, robotic, inarticulate and unlikable.” And she
was plagued by lies and scandals from Benghazi to the Clinton Foundation to her unsecured e-mails.
The polls showed that the majority of American voters did not consider her to be “honest, truthful
and trustworthy”. She also didn’t trust her own staff, which resulted in a great deal of
infighting, friction, anger and manipulation. Many staffers were afraid to report problems or
provide constructive criticism to Hillary for fear of being fired. Bill Clinton did offer some
solid campaign advice, but it was mostly ignored. This is one reason why the Hillary machine never
saw Bernie Sanders coming and fatally underestimated President Trump.
> > >
> > > 2. Hillary ignored the white working class voters who used to be the heart of the Democrat
party base. She never set foot in Wisconsin, took Michigan and Pennsylvania for granted and bragged
that “We’re gonna put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of work.” Hillary Clinton
was ready to be President but she just could not connect with the average American worker. At one
point she finally admitted that, “I don’t understand what is happening in the country. I
can’t get my arms around it.”
> > >
> > > 3. She never communicated a clear, believable vision of why she should be elected President.
She believed it was her turn. She believed she was entitled to it as a female candidate. She
demonized Trump relentlessly. And she and her staff believed, even going into election night, that
she was guaranteed a victory and would “march to an inevitable coronation”. Her staff was
working on multiple versions of her acceptance speech while her concession speech was in a drawer
> > >
> > > The last two chapters describing Hillary’s election night collapse, her telephone calls with
Obama and John Podesta’s lame, last minute speech to Hillary’s devastated supporters, was worth
the price of the book!
> > >
> > > But the bottom-line is this. Hillary Clinton, the DNC and most Democrat politicians still
refuse to take any personal responsibility for this epic loss. They blame the FBI, KGB and the KKK.
They blame whites, racism, misogyny, homophobes, Islamophobes, Evangelicals and climate change
deniers. They blame President Trump and his wife and children. The only people they don’t blame
are Hillary Clinton and themselves.
> > >
> > > Irish Mike
> > >
> > > Obama’s legacy is President Trump
> > An 'epic loss', then, is when a candidate gets almost 3 million more votes?
> Come on Risky, you're smart enough to know it's not how many total votes you get but where they
are. Hillary could have gotten 3 million more votes in Ca or Trump could have gotten 3 million more
in TX and it would have changed squat. Now some states mattered, you know like Michigan and
Wisconsin? Save the one weird electoral vote in Maine, she might have gone over the top had she
not totally ignored them. We will never know.
> > And how is it possible to 'demonize' Crooked Donald?
> And yes, losing to an orange monkey is an EPIC loss.
That's a nice response but not a response to anything I said.