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On 2/3/2018 5:55 PM, Bill Vanek wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 17:11:10 -0800, Dutch<> wrote:
>> On 2/3/2018 4:41 PM, Bill Vanek wrote:
>>> On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 14:22:50 -0800, Dutch<> wrote:
>>>> It's not relevant where information supporting a FISA warrant comes from
>>>> or if the source has a bias. All that matters to the court is that the
>>>> information is shown to be credible and supports probable cause. The
>>>> memo is a complete dud. BUT, Nunes, Trump and company don't really care
>>>> about being factual (he never has). They know that all they need to do
>>>> is make a bunch of noise, issue some wild accusations, and their
>>>> supporters will array behind them.
>>>> I fear that the real agenda is to justify a purge of the FBI and Justice
>>>> Dept, because the noose is tightening and Orange Clown Man will not go
>>>> down without a fight. I see no way to avoid this, unless, and this is a
>>>> possibility, Trump is actually delusional enough to believe that he has
>>>> done nothing wrong
>>> Tell you what, why don't you tell us precisely what Trump has done
>>> wrong regarding Russia and the election? Or tell us what CNN told you.
>>> Tell us all what indictable crimes *he* has committed.
>> Collusion with Russian operatives to release illegally obtained
>> information against his political opponents followed by a daily stream
>> of actions, lies and naive admissions of guilt surrounding his attempts
>> to obstruct the investigation into those crimes.
> What then is collusion with Russian operatives and corrupted FBI
> figures to release false info about Trump during an election? And is
> collusion a crime? You could check with your lawyer buddy.

You're a hopeless dupe.

>>>> and lets the investigation play out.
>>>> The difference between this and Watergate is that at that time the
>>>> Congress was actually an independent branch of government, and the
>>>> Republican Party still believed in the Constitution. That's gone now. In
>>>> 2018 the American Congress serves at the whim of the president.
>>>> There are fireworks coming the likes of which any your country has never
>>>> seen. It is sad to see, and at the same time very entertaining to watch.
>>> All reasonable Americans are praying for those fireworks, as long as
>>> they are non-partisan fireworks.
>> There is no American more non-partisan than Mueller
> There is no word more apt for you than "naive".

 From all reports he is a highly respected Republican straight arrow. 
That is, until he started getting close to Trump..

I recall you having a shred of a conscience at one point. What happened 
to you? Whatever it is, it is apparently the same disease that the 
Congressional Republicans have contracted.

>> . But the fireworks I
>> do not believe will come from him because Trump is going to get rid of
>> him. Like a cornered rat he is going to lash out, he doesn't have much
>> choice.
> Mueller should be fired. There is not a non-partisan human left in
> this country, and Mueller is far from it. Trump is not cornered. There
> is nothing on him, except in the fevered imagination of CNN.

You are delusional. At least Trump appears to have the awareness to 
realize the situation he is in. That is exactly why this laughable 
diversion was thrown up. He has manufactured cover for any future 
obstructions of this process. And they are sure to continue.

>>   You don't seem to understand that. We
>>> do need a purge, and another thing you don't understand is that Trump
>>> could represent that purge. Why do you think so many politicians from
>>> *both* parties hate him?
>> If there were actually enough patriots in the US Congress willing to
>> admit what is happening Trump would already be facing impeachment.
> Would Hillary be facing indictment? Lois Lerner? Any Dems at all?

What an idiot. Private citizen Hillary Clinton and whatever legal 
problems she may face should be absolutely of no interest to anyone. It 
certainly has nothing to do with the collusion by the Trump Crime Family 
that is sitting in plain sight of anyone who cares to see it.

And yes, I am aware that "collusion" per se, in and of itself is not a