Subject: Re: Where Are All Our Wingnuts?
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On 2/3/2018 7:41 PM, Dutch wrote:
> On 2/3/2018 5:55 PM, Bill Vanek wrote:
>> On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 17:11:10 -0800, Dutch<> wrote:
>>> On 2/3/2018 4:41 PM, Bill Vanek wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 14:22:50 -0800, Dutch<> wrote:
>>>>> It's not relevant where information supporting a FISA warrant comes 
>>>>> from
>>>>> or if the source has a bias. All that matters to the court is that the
>>>>> information is shown to be credible and supports probable cause. The
>>>>> memo is a complete dud. BUT, Nunes, Trump and company don't really 
>>>>> care
>>>>> about being factual (he never has). They know that all they need to do
>>>>> is make a bunch of noise, issue some wild accusations, and their
>>>>> supporters will array behind them.
>>>>> I fear that the real agenda is to justify a purge of the FBI and 
>>>>> Justice
>>>>> Dept, because the noose is tightening and Orange Clown Man will not go
>>>>> down without a fight. I see no way to avoid this, unless, and this 
>>>>> is a
>>>>> possibility, Trump is actually delusional enough to believe that he 
>>>>> has
>>>>> done nothing wrong
>>>> Tell you what, why don't you tell us precisely what Trump has done
>>>> wrong regarding Russia and the election? Or tell us what CNN told you.
>>>> Tell us all what indictable crimes *he* has committed.
>>> Collusion with Russian operatives to release illegally obtained
>>> information against his political opponents followed by a daily stream
>>> of actions, lies and naive admissions of guilt surrounding his attempts
>>> to obstruct the investigation into those crimes.
>> What then is collusion with Russian operatives and corrupted FBI
>> figures to release false info about Trump during an election? And is
>> collusion a crime? You could check with your lawyer buddy.
> You're a hopeless dupe.
>>>>> and lets the investigation play out.
>>>>> The difference between this and Watergate is that at that time the
>>>>> Congress was actually an independent branch of government, and the
>>>>> Republican Party still believed in the Constitution. That's gone 
>>>>> now. In
>>>>> 2018 the American Congress serves at the whim of the president.
>>>>> There are fireworks coming the likes of which any your country has 
>>>>> never
>>>>> seen. It is sad to see, and at the same time very entertaining to 
>>>>> watch.
>>>> All reasonable Americans are praying for those fireworks, as long as
>>>> they are non-partisan fireworks.
>>> There is no American more non-partisan than Mueller
>> There is no word more apt for you than "naive".
>  From all reports he is a highly respected Republican straight arrow. 
> That is, until he started getting close to Trump..
> I recall you having a shred of a conscience at one point. What happened 
> to you? Whatever it is, it is apparently the same disease that the 
> Congressional Republicans have contracted.
>>> . But the fireworks I
>>> do not believe will come from him because Trump is going to get rid of
>>> him. Like a cornered rat he is going to lash out, he doesn't have much
>>> choice.
>> Mueller should be fired. There is not a non-partisan human left in
>> this country, and Mueller is far from it. Trump is not cornered. There
>> is nothing on him, except in the fevered imagination of CNN.
> You are delusional. At least Trump appears to have the awareness to 
> realize the situation he is in. That is exactly why this laughable 
> diversion was thrown up. He has manufactured cover for any future 
> obstructions of this process. And they are sure to continue.
>>>   You don't seem to understand that. We
>>>> do need a purge, and another thing you don't understand is that Trump
>>>> could represent that purge. Why do you think so many politicians from
>>>> *both* parties hate him?
>>> If there were actually enough patriots in the US Congress willing to
>>> admit what is happening Trump would already be facing impeachment.
>> Would Hillary be facing indictment? Lois Lerner? Any Dems at all?
> What an idiot. Private citizen Hillary Clinton and whatever legal 
> problems she may face should be absolutely of no interest to anyone. It 
> certainly has nothing to do with the collusion by the Trump Crime Family 
> that is sitting in plain sight of anyone who cares to see it.
> And yes, I am aware that "collusion" per se, in and of itself is not a 
> crime.

The obstruction *IS* the collusion.