Subject: Re: Where Are All Our Wingnuts?
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From: Clave <>
Subject: Re: Where Are All Our Wingnuts?
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2018 00:27:13 -0800
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On 2/4/2018 12:08 AM, Dutch wrote:
> On 2/3/2018 11:53 PM, Clave wrote:
>> On 2/3/2018 11:32 PM, Dutch wrote:
>>> On 2/3/2018 10:00 PM, Clave wrote:
>>>> On 2/3/2018 9:19 PM, Dutch wrote:
>>>>> On 2/3/2018 7:50 PM, Clave wrote:
>>>>>>> And yes, I am aware that "collusion" per se, in and of itself is 
>>>>>>> not a crime.
>>>>>> The obstruction *IS* the collusion.
>>>>> I don't follow. The Trump campaign colluded with Russia, i.e. 
>>>>> *illegally* exchanged promises to drop sanctions in exchange for 
>>>>> the release of *illegally obtained* damaging information about 
>>>>> Clinton, then subsequently the Trumpsters have, in a variety of 
>>>>> ways, worked to *illegally* obstruct the investigation into it. 
>>>>> There appears to me to be separate and independent sets of crimes.
>>>> There is no such crime as "collusion."
>>> I know, I didn't call it a crime.
>> What does "illegally" mean to you then?
> The illegality is not simply colluding with a foreign power, but how 
> they did it.