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On 3/7/2018 2:02 AM, Dutch wrote:
> On 3/6/2018 11:51 PM, Bill Vanek wrote:
>> On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 23:47:11 -0800, Dutch<> wrote:
>>> On 3/6/2018 7:26 PM, Bill Vanek wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 18:25:32 -0800, Dutch<> wrote:
>>>>> On 3/6/2018 12:28 PM, fffurken wrote:
>>>>>> On Tuesday, 6 March 2018 18:56:42 UTC, Tim Norfolk  wrote:
>>>>>>> Didn't you get the memo? Racism is only by white people, as it 
>>>>>>> has been re-defined as discrimination plus power, as has sexism.
>>>>>> Only by members of the loony liberal left, such as the Canadian 
>>>>>> dhimmi.
>>>>>> Sane people know what racism is. Which isn't, by the way, the 
>>>>>> belief that not all races are equal, as Dutch recently stated.
>>>>> Let's do a thought experiment. Say a white couple decides to adopt a
>>>>> family and they adopt one infant of each race. Assume that the 
>>>>> children
>>>>> all receive the same upbringing and education and none is subjected to
>>>>> any more bullying or discrimination during childhood than the others.
>>>>> Let's further assume that once they are adults none of them are
>>>>> subjected to discrimination in hiring or in any other realm.
>>>>> What would predict would be the likely outcome of this scenario for
>>>>> these children, if the experiment was repeated thousands of times?
>>>> We already know what you, like all liberals, think. That's because you
>>>> won't accept that human nature exists, and if you do, you believe you
>>>> can change it. This is your utopia, where everyone is treated
>>>> properly, so every outcome is great. But I tell you what would happen
>>>> in your scenario - some of them are likely to turn into virulent
>>>> racists, some of them will hate, some of them will fail in life. You
>>>> know why? Because they are fucking human, that's why. There isn't a
>>>> fucking thing you can do about it.
>>>> Something you folks always forget is that these experiments have been
>>>> tried. In fact, pretty much any experiment you can think of has been
>>>> tried, but they all fall into obscurity because they don't produce the
>>>> wanted results.
>>>> While you think about all this, why don't you explain black slaves
>>>> owned by blacks? How about white slaves of black owners? After you
>>>> educate yourself we can go back to skin color considerations.
>>> I can't be bothered to wade through all that. Could you please just give
>>> me a direct answer to my hypothetical?
>> I did, about halfway down in the first paragraph I wrote.
> I see, OK. But my actual question is, all things being equal, as they 
> are in my hypothetical scenario, do you believe there would be a 
> significant difference in outcomes among the children that you can 
> attribute to race?
> And I do not believe the exact scenario I described has ever been tried, 
> because it's not possible in the real world. There is no prejudice-free 
> environment.

First, you must define and differentiate biological "races" ... no 
races, no difference (by definition).

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