From: Bill Vanek <>
Subject: Re: You want racism? I'll give you racism
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From: Bill Vanek <>
Subject: Re: You want racism? Ill give you racism
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 22:32:22 -0800
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On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 22:21:06 -0800, Dutch<> wrote:

>On 3/7/2018 8:50 PM, Bill Vanek wrote:
>> On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 20:01:25 -0800, Dutch<> wrote:
>>> On 3/7/2018 7:06 PM, Bill Vanek wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 18:51:22 -0800, Dutch<> wrote:
>>>>> On 3/7/2018 6:43 PM, Bill Vanek wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 07 Mar 2018 21:26:02 -0500, Seymore4Head<no@none.invalid>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 7 Mar 2018 14:46:26 -0800, Dutch<> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 3/7/2018 2:27 PM, fffurken wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, 7 March 2018 21:56:49 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Are you referring to *intelligence* when you say "IQ"?
>>>>>>>>> I'll ding anytime you disagree with Sam Harris with a t=placement from the video I posted
previously (ding) -
>>>>>>>>> Hey, you know, this could be a good thing. I've always said that you're a Sam Harris
>>>>>>>>> Btw, you can start a YouTube video (at a certain place) but you can't stop it so it's for
the viewers discretion how long to watch (shouldn't take more than a few seconds) just ding back
when you hear it.
>>>>>>>> I'll offer this from the comments,
>>>>>>>> "I have noticed over the years, that my fellow whites that talk the most
>>>>>>>> about "white peoples IQ superiority", are usually lacking in a few
>>>>>>>> chromosomes themselves. Einstein barely talked about his own
>>>>>>>> intelligence, great philosophers of history have said things like "the
>>>>>>>> wiser I become, the more foolish I realize I am". Its always the apes of
>>>>>>>> our "racial groups" that spout off at the mouth. Sad really.?"
>>>>>>>> So, inasmuch as there are racial differences in intelligence revealed by
>>>>>>>> IQ tests, which I contend suffer from cultural bias, the differences
>>>>>>>> create overlapping ranges of IQs. And those people who make racial IQ an
>>>>>>>> issue are revealing themselves to be not well situated on this range.
>>>>>>> Why do you think Black special interest groups have not created an IQ
>>>>>>> test that doesn't have cultural bias?
>>>>>> Because even if it were biased towards black culture, whites would ace
>>>>>> it, and blacks would fumble.
>>>>>> I remember this argument on Johnny Carson, of all things, years ago.
>>>>>> Some black advocates came on to demonstrate this cultural bias thing,
>>>>>> and although Carson feigned surprise, any half-awake white guy would
>>>>>> have gotten every answer right. Carson had some class, and I certainly
>>>>>> don't blame him for playing dumb.
>>>>> IQ tests do not tend to test knowledge of any particular pop culture,
>>>>> but they test patterns of thinking and association that depend on how
>>>>> your brain is organized to solve problems. People who receive a good
>>>>> western education while having talents in this area are going to surpass
>>>>> those with talents that receive a poor education and/or have a stressful
>>>>> family life, poverty etc..
>>>> I don't get it. You're the one who keeps throwing this cultural bias
>>>> thing around. So what are you talking about? A shit education and
>>>> poverty are not part of cultural bias. Are you saying that blacks have
>>>> a culture of disdain for learning and money?
>>> Are you actually claiming that inner city schools with predominantly
>>> black students are given the same budgets and quality of teachers as
>>> those in rich areas?
>> Of course not. So let's talk about who has complete control of the US
>> education system. You ducked this last time, so let's try again. Is it
>> the liberals and their liberal union buddies, the ones who teach group
>> identity, and the lies that everything that happens to black kids is
>> whitey's fault, and that nothing is every their own fault, or
>> conservatives, who try to teach self-worth, self-sufficiency, self
>> reliance, and individualism?
>> Remember, if there is no parental support, it's up to the schools to
>> mold these kids. And the liberals have done a great job of producing
>> generations of kids whose lifetime career choice is government
>> handouts. And of course, if some parents want to get their kids out of
>> those failed schools, the liberals fight them with all they have. The
>> liberals have written these kids off, and yet you support them. You
>> should be ashamed.
>Again, you confuse your extreme bias against liberals with reality.

Then tell me who really runs the schools here.