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Subject: Re: ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD reshoots
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In article <ou1qs0$fri$1@dont-email.me>, Obveeus<Obveeus@aol.com> 
wrote:

> On 11/9/2017 9:58 AM, moviePig wrote:
> > On 11/9/2017 9:42 AM, Obveeus wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/9/2017 9:33 AM, moviePig wrote:
> >>> On 11/9/2017 8:46 AM, Obveeus wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 11/9/2017 12:54 AM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> >>>>> In article<anim8rfsk-52039D.22272308112017@news.easynews.com>,
> >>>>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> In article <ou0o85$pgm$3@news.albasani.net>, Obveeus 
> >>>>>><Obveeus@aol.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Director Ridley Scott is bringing in Christopher Plumber to 
> >>>>>>> reshoot all
> >>>>>>> of Kevin Spacey's scenes in the film - thus replacing him 
> >>>>>>> completely:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2017/11/08/kevin-spacey-c...
> >>>>>>> -out-all 
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -money-world-following-assault-allegations/846901001/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Let's start a petition to get them to never show SUPERGAYMAN 
> >>>>>> RETURNS at
> >>>>>> all ever again.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why stop at unreleased films?  Why not edit Errol Flynn out of 
> >>>>> "Robin Hood"
> >>>>> and Bing Crosby out of "Going My Way"?
> >>>>
> >>>> I agree.  I understand that Ridley Scott is in a tough position, 
> >>>> afraid that his film will never see the light of day or will be 
> >>>> unfairly blocked from awards consideration, but the overly 'PC'-ness 
> >>>> of this re-shooting is a horrible precedent.
> >>>
> >>> I don't think it's a tough position for Scott, at least not in the 
> >>> sense that he has any real choice in the matter.  Movies are a 
> >>> business, and a Kevin Spacey flick right now has about the same 
> >>> box-office prospects as SPRINGTIME FOR HITLER.
> >>
> >> One choice that Ridley Scott had was simply to wait a year for the 
> >> shockwave to abate.  If, at that time, Spacey has been wiped from the 
> >> Hollywood landscape then do the re-shoots with a replacement actor and 
> >> submit the film for the awards circuit when it will be less likely to 
> >> be avoided 'just because'.
> >>
> >> Another choice would be to release the film without pandering to the 
> >> awards circuit.  This sort of sounds like one of those films that is 
> >> aimed at awards rather than profit, anyway...and the award half of 
> >> that equation is just about vanity if Ridley Scott is willing to 
> >> rework his art just in the hopes of getting attention.
> > 
> > Barring new evidence from the grassy knoll, Kevin Spacey will go down in 
> > history as THE three-strike poster boy (harassment, cradle-robbing, and, 
> > yes, homosexuality).  I'll bet half of Hollywood is re-routing their 
> > daily commute so as not to drive past his house...
> 
> Mel Gibson has recovered from his poster boy status as drunken racist.

And Polanski flourished.

Gibson probably wouldn't have recovered had he been erased from history.

> It remains to be seen if Spacey's career will go the route of Michael 
> Richards or Mel Gibson.
> 
> I kinda hope that at some point the 'victim blaming' mentality kicks in 
> and Hollywood decides that he is a victim (abused by daddy) and as such 
> deserves a shot at therapy/recovery.  Unfortunately for Spacey, in our 
> society, it is a lot easier to be accepted back in from the cold if you 
> are a drug dealer or a killer than if you have committed a sex crime.

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