From: anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
Subject: Re: ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD reshoots
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From: anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net>
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Subject: Re: ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD reshoots
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In article <ou2aod$j3v$1@dont-email.me>, Obveeus<Obveeus@aol.com> 
wrote:

> On 11/9/2017 2:23 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> > In article <ou280d$re2$1@dont-email.me>, Obveeus<Obveeus@aol.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> On 11/9/2017 1:45 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> >>> In article <ou264l$d6a$1@dont-email.me>, Obveeus<Obveeus@aol.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 11/9/2017 1:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>> Obveeus<Obveeus@aol.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 11/9/2017 9:58 AM, moviePig wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 11/9/2017 9:42 AM, Obveeus wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 11/9/2017 9:33 AM, moviePig wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 11/9/2017 8:46 AM, Obveeus wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 11/9/2017 12:54 AM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> In article<anim8rfsk-52039D.22272308112017@news.easynews.com>,
> >>>>>>>>>>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> In article <ou0o85$pgm$3@news.albasani.net>, Obveeus
> >>>>>>>>>>>><Obveeus@aol.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Director Ridley Scott is bringing in Christopher Plumber to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> reshoot all
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> of Kevin Spacey's scenes in the film - thus replacing him
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> completely:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2017/11/08/kevin-spac
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ey
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -c
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ut-out-all
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -money-world-following-assault-allegations/846901001/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let's start a petition to get them to never show SUPERGAYMAN
> >>>>>>>>>>>> RETURNS at
> >>>>>>>>>>>> all ever again.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Why stop at unreleased films?  Why not edit Errol Flynn out of
> >>>>>>>>>>> "Robin Hood"
> >>>>>>>>>>> and Bing Crosby out of "Going My Way"?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I agree.  I understand that Ridley Scott is in a tough 
> >>>>>>>>>> position,
> >>>>>>>>>> afraid that his film will never see the light of day or will be
> >>>>>>>>>> unfairly blocked from awards consideration, but the overly 
> >>>>>>>>>> 'PC'-ness
> >>>>>>>>>> of this re-shooting is a horrible precedent.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I don't think it's a tough position for Scott, at least not in the
> >>>>>>>>> sense that he has any real choice in the matter.  Movies are a
> >>>>>>>>> business, and a Kevin Spacey flick right now has about the same
> >>>>>>>>> box-office prospects as SPRINGTIME FOR HITLER.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> One choice that Ridley Scott had was simply to wait a year for the
> >>>>>>>> shockwave to abate.  If, at that time, Spacey has been wiped from 
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> Hollywood landscape then do the re-shoots with a replacement actor 
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> submit the film for the awards circuit when it will be less likely 
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> be avoided 'just because'.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Another choice would be to release the film without pandering to the
> >>>>>>>> awards circuit.  This sort of sounds like one of those films that 
> >>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>> aimed at awards rather than profit, anyway...and the award half of
> >>>>>>>> that equation is just about vanity if Ridley Scott is willing to
> >>>>>>>> rework his art just in the hopes of getting attention.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Barring new evidence from the grassy knoll, Kevin Spacey will go down
> >>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>> history as THE three-strike poster boy (harassment, cradle-robbing,
> >>>>>>> and,
> >>>>>>> yes, homosexuality).  I'll bet half of Hollywood is re-routing 
> >>>>>>> their
> >>>>>>> daily commute so as not to drive past his house...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mel Gibson has recovered from his poster boy status as drunken racist.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It remains to be seen if Spacey's career will go the route of Michael
> >>>>>> Richards or Mel Gibson.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Robert Downey Jr was once as toxic as Mel, and he's recovered nicely,
> >>>>> also.
> >>>>
> >>>> True...and there was a whole lot more evidence of his underage
> >>>> wrongdoing given that he made a sex tape with her.
> >>>
> >>> I ... are you thinking of Rob Lowe?
> >>
> >> Yes, yes I am.
> > 
> > hee hee
> 
> I hang my head in shame.
> 
> Robert Downey Jr. is just alcohol and drugs...the norm in Hollywood...so 
> why would he be an outcast?
> 
> > Friends of mine in LA, the same guys I mentioned earlier would sneak a
> > little porn into an animation take, appended a Rob Lowe sex video the a
> > job once.  I say 'a' and not 'the' because it wasn't the one so heavily
> > publicized, but *another* with two guys and an underage girl ...
> 
> ...and yet his career recovered.  Maybe recording events helps because 
> then the damning public can see the 'consensual' aspect instead of just 
> imagining 'rape' when the accusations are of a statutory nature?

Yeah, I was thinking the same.

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