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Obveeus<Obveeus@aol.com> wrote:
> 
> On 12/5/2017 3:22 PM, BTR1701 wrote:

>> Lewis<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>>> In message<bbb19175-1092-400f-92fa-af866430182e@googlegroups.com> Ed
>>> Stasiak<estasiak@att.net> wrote:

>>>>> Lewis
>>>>>> Ed Stasiak
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Unless the film critic signed some kinda “approved disclosure” agreement,
>>>>>> they’re free to say whatever they want about the movie or tv show.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Either way, has *nothing* to do with the 1st Amendment.
>>> 
>>>> “More than just a kerfuffle over one superhero movie, the incident raises
>>>> larger questions about the relationship between reviewers and the public,
>>>> the editorial objectivity of aggregators and how much studios should be
>>>> _empowered to control the pre-release messaging_ of their films.”
>>> 
>>>> The above implies the studios have some kinda right to control what
>>>> movie critics say about their flicks and that IS a 1st Amendment issue.
>>> 
>>> No it is not. Not in any imaginable way.
>> 
>> You apparently have a very limited imagination. It would be a 1st Amendment
>> issue because if the studios are indeed asserting a right to control what
>> movie critics say about their product, then the implication is that if it's
>> a right, it must be guaranteed and enforced by the government or it's
>> meaningless as a right. And the idea of the government enforcing such
>> nonsense is indeed a 1st Amendment issue.
> 
> So it becomes a First Amendment issue right after we make up an 
> imaginary scenario where the government is involved.  Neat trick.

The government *has* to be involved for it to be a right. Otherwise it's
just the studi stamping its virtual foot and whining impotently. A right
not guaranteed by the government is for all practical purposes no right at
all.