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Subject: Re: 12 STRONG: The Left is Upset (Again)
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Subject: Re: 12 STRONG: The Left is Upset (Again)
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In article <pwsbC.537981$iX.302982@fx39.iad>,
 moviePig<> wrote:

> On 1/28/2018 3:26 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> > This guy has some serious issues to work through. His obvious issues
> > with the military aside, he can't even stand that Hemsworth is
> > good-looking. "Greviously handsome"? WTF?
> > 
> > Oh, and contrary to the writer's claim, Hemsworth's Marines did a lot
> > more than decimate the Taliban forces. They annihilated them.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----------------
> >
> > 
> > Peter Maass
> > January 27 2018
> > 
> > The Hollywood Reporter published a surprising story earlier this month
> > about film studios turning away from movies about sex. A biopic about
> > Hugh Hefner is stalled, gone for the moment is a James Franco film about
> > a 15-year-old Russian prostitute, and a remake of A STAR IS BORN is
> > being re-thought, too.
> > 
> > "As Hollywood begins to navigate the #MeToo landscape," Tatiana Siegel
> > reported, "one of the first casualties appears to be big-screen erotica.
> > In the wake of the Harvey Weinstein scandal, studios are steering clear
> > of sex." Alyssa Rosenberg, writing in the Washington Post, hopes that
> > Hollywood's embarrassed executives are navigating "the end of a very
> > narrow way of thinking about what's alluring." Instead of movies that
> > objectify women, she suggests more films that portray sex and sexuality
> > in intelligent ways.
> > 
> > This reckoning is long overdue. And it can be extended to another genre
> > that has distorted how men behave: war movies. Hollywood has shown
> > itself capable of making excellent war movies (think THREE KINGS, PATHS
> > OF GLORY, and THE BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES), but most are problematic.
> > Some of the biggest war movies of the post-9/11 era don't just show
> > violence in ways that are often gratuitous and occasionally racist. They
> > model a cliched form of masculinity that veers from simplistic to
> > monstrous.
> > 
> > For instance, you can see Rambo and John Wayne return to life in the
> > latest war blockbuster, 12 STRONG, which was produced by Jerry
> > Bruckheimer, who also brought us BLACK HAWK DOWN. 12 STRONG is an
> > extravaganza about a Special Forces team that fought the Taliban in
> > Afghanistan in the weeks and months after 9/11. During the movie's
> > pivotal scene, the leader of the Green Berets, played by Chris Hemsworth
> > (the grievously handsome star of the THOR franchise), decimates a hive
> > of Taliban fighters with his rifle ablaze as he gallops ahead on his
> > fearless horse (yes, he's riding a horse). In the same way that
> > Hemsworth's assault weapon goes rat-tat-tat and the bad guys fall like
> > bulleted dominoes, the scene itself checks off one born-in-Hollywood
> > cliché after another: of the rugged gunslinger, the warrior in camo,
> > good versus evil, the modern vanquishing the profane, a man at his
> > fullest.
> > 
> > Whenever I write about the real-world impact of war movies-- and I've
> > gone to bat against AMERICAN SNIPER, ZERO DARK THIRTY and 13 HOURS-- I
> > always get responses along the lines of "Relax, these are just movies.
> > Don't take them so seriously. They're harmless." That's when it becomes
> > necessary to say that movies can create or reinforce narratives of
> > history and gender that influence what people think and what they do.
> > Boys and men develop their notions of masculinity from a variety of
> > sources that include the films they watch (the extent to which this is
> > true is, of course, open to debate). The time has come for Hollywood to
> > turn away from war movies that, while satisfying to both a studio's
> > bottom line and a flag-waving concept of patriotism, perpetuate a model
> > of masculinity that does violence to us all.
> Though I (fwiw) am neither upset, nor upset if the Left's upset, I'm 
> curious to know which of this guy's ideas you find particularly absurd.

Um... all of them?