From: Obveeus <>
Subject: Re: NOCTURNE (no spoilers)
Full headers:
From: Obveeus <>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies.current-films
Subject: Re: NOCTURNE (no spoilers)
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 20:37:55 -0500
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 76
Message-ID: <p5g9lg$oo0$>
References: <O2qeC.3837$5D1.933@fx01.iad> <p5dbah$uun$>
<RPqeC.15423$KA7.10675@fx05.iad> <p5dti5$nmh$>
<HUDeC.3069$eZ5.1720@fx19.iad> <p5f6ml$ro9$>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2018 01:37:52 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info:; posting-host="b336d11d7c49080062c7a87135fd9b8f";
logging-data="25344"; mail-complaints-to="";posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18YArHG791LAGPjSjZGJlhn"
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
In-Reply-To: <XJGeC.23331$Cy2.1078@fx44.iad>
Content-Language: en-US
Cancel-Lock: sha1:tTkIKPHRqIKnH4NJqHhjzcmrNCE=
Print Article
Forward Article
On 2/7/2018 12:31 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 2/7/2018 10:41 AM, Obveeus wrote:
>> On 2/7/2018 9:18 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>> On 2/6/2018 10:59 PM, Obveeus wrote:
>>>> On 2/6/2018 6:25 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>> On 2/6/2018 5:47 PM, Obveeus wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/6/2018 5:33 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>> Six high-school seniors gather for an evening of partying and 
>>>>>>> spooky soul-searching.  For the first half of its 90 minutes, 
>>>>>>> NOCTURNE promises a somewhat stylish and above-average 
>>>>>>> horror-flick.  Then the second-half goes off the rails like a 
>>>>>>> bent bicycle.  Minimally recommended.
>>>>>> NOCTURNE a film that really does look like a direct to DVD 
>>>>>> offering with a 4.7 IMDB score and yet you watched this while 
>>>>>> forgoing the 6.0 THE CLOVERFIELD PARADOX?
>>>>> I go into each movie pursuing a glimmer of hope.  But a movie being 
>>>>> blatantly painted over to ride another's coattails snuffs that out.
>>>> By 'painted over', I guess you me rewrite draft of a script?
>>>> Side note:  the last CLOVERFIELD film (10 CLOVERFIELD LANE) was also 
>>>> a rewrite of a different spec film script (THE CELLAR).
>>> If tCP was merely a rewrite, i.e., was "Cloverfield"ed before the 
>>> cameras ever rolled, that'd make a difference to me.  But I thought 
>>> it was filmed, shelved, and then re-titled with extreme prejudice.
>>  From wiki:
>> The film was shot in Los Angeles, California, where it received tax 
>> credits under the state's film incentive program.[19] While filming in 
>> Los Angeles, the project was shot under the titles of God Particle and 
>> Clean Pass.[20] Filming began on June 10, 2016 and wrapped on 
>> September 23, 2016.[17] According to Uziel, it was during production 
>> that he came to learn that the film was being connected to 
>> Cloverfield, requiring him to rewrite a few scenes and added addition 
>> shooting.[9] Uziel speculated that the decision to connect to 
>> Cloverfield was due to the difficulty in marketing a stand-alone 
>> science-fiction film at the time, and felt the connection between the 
>> films was more of an anthology series similar to The Twilight Zone, 
>> with each movie dealing with how people with complex relations deal 
>> with a other-worldly dilemma.[9]
>> That paragraph would appear to me to indicate that the rewriting and 
>> filming of CLOVERFIELD tie-in stuff occurred during the original 
>> filming of the project.  there is other stuff at the link that hints 
>> that the script sat around for a few years before any filming began 
>> (probably because most scripts do and because of studio/ownership 
>> changes).  Also, after filming, the link explains some delay in 
>> release as they worked on an ARG video game tie-in and wrung their 
>> hands about how the high cost of the film would prevent it from 
>> becoming a theatrical success.
> So he did the re-writes "during" shooting, a sort-of hybrid status. 
> Then, however, they judged the result unworthy of theaters.  A year 
> later, the Netflix deal materialized.
> Afaics, the most favorable indicator therein is the Netflix badge -- 
> better than, say, a Showtime premiere, but not as auspicious as a 2,000 
> theater Friday.

What if it was a 2,000 theater opening in February?
We are in the month when garbage is traditionally dumped to the big screens.