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On 2/7/2018 8:37 PM, Obveeus wrote:
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> On 2/7/2018 12:31 PM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 2/7/2018 10:41 AM, Obveeus wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/7/2018 9:18 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>> On 2/6/2018 10:59 PM, Obveeus wrote:
>>>>> On 2/6/2018 6:25 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/6/2018 5:47 PM, Obveeus wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/6/2018 5:33 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Six high-school seniors gather for an evening of partying and 
>>>>>>>> spooky soul-searching.  For the first half of its 90 minutes, 
>>>>>>>> NOCTURNE promises a somewhat stylish and above-average 
>>>>>>>> horror-flick.  Then the second-half goes off the rails like a 
>>>>>>>> bent bicycle.  Minimally recommended.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NOCTURNE a film that really does look like a direct to DVD 
>>>>>>> offering with a 4.7 IMDB score and yet you watched this while 
>>>>>>> forgoing the 6.0 THE CLOVERFIELD PARADOX?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I go into each movie pursuing a glimmer of hope.  But a movie 
>>>>>> being blatantly painted over to ride another's coattails snuffs 
>>>>>> that out.
>>>>>
>>>>> By 'painted over', I guess you me rewrite draft of a script?
>>>>>
>>>>> Side note:  the last CLOVERFIELD film (10 CLOVERFIELD LANE) was 
>>>>> also a rewrite of a different spec film script (THE CELLAR).
>>>>
>>>> If tCP was merely a rewrite, i.e., was "Cloverfield"ed before the 
>>>> cameras ever rolled, that'd make a difference to me.  But I thought 
>>>> it was filmed, shelved, and then re-titled with extreme prejudice.
>>>
>>>  From wiki:
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cloverfield_Paradox
>>>
>>> QUOTE:
>>> The film was shot in Los Angeles, California, where it received tax 
>>> credits under the state's film incentive program.[19] While filming 
>>> in Los Angeles, the project was shot under the titles of God Particle 
>>> and Clean Pass.[20] Filming began on June 10, 2016 and wrapped on 
>>> September 23, 2016.[17] According to Uziel, it was during production 
>>> that he came to learn that the film was being connected to 
>>> Cloverfield, requiring him to rewrite a few scenes and added addition 
>>> shooting.[9] Uziel speculated that the decision to connect to 
>>> Cloverfield was due to the difficulty in marketing a stand-alone 
>>> science-fiction film at the time, and felt the connection between the 
>>> films was more of an anthology series similar to The Twilight Zone, 
>>> with each movie dealing with how people with complex relations deal 
>>> with a other-worldly dilemma.[9]
>>> :UNQUOTE
>>>
>>>
>>> That paragraph would appear to me to indicate that the rewriting and 
>>> filming of CLOVERFIELD tie-in stuff occurred during the original 
>>> filming of the project.  there is other stuff at the link that hints 
>>> that the script sat around for a few years before any filming began 
>>> (probably because most scripts do and because of studio/ownership 
>>> changes).  Also, after filming, the link explains some delay in 
>>> release as they worked on an ARG video game tie-in and wrung their 
>>> hands about how the high cost of the film would prevent it from 
>>> becoming a theatrical success.
>>
>> So he did the re-writes "during" shooting, a sort-of hybrid status. 
>> Then, however, they judged the result unworthy of theaters.  A year 
>> later, the Netflix deal materialized.
>>
>> Afaics, the most favorable indicator therein is the Netflix badge -- 
>> better than, say, a Showtime premiere, but not as auspicious as a 
>> 2,000 theater Friday.
> 
> What if it was a 2,000 theater opening in February?
> We are in the month when garbage is traditionally dumped to the big 
> screens.

Without researching, my sense is that, over the past 10 or 15 years, the 
wee months have seen more respectable thriller/horrors than previously. 
And remember, this is a February *streaming* release.  Still, of course, 
I'll welcome any firsthand reports that I'm wrong...

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