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Subject: Re: NOCTURNE (no spoilers)
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On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 8:37:55 PM UTC-5, Obveeus wrote:
> On 2/7/2018 12:31 PM, moviePig wrote:
> > On 2/7/2018 10:41 AM, Obveeus wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2/7/2018 9:18 AM, moviePig wrote:
> >>> On 2/6/2018 10:59 PM, Obveeus wrote:
> >>>> On 2/6/2018 6:25 PM, moviePig wrote:
> >>>>> On 2/6/2018 5:47 PM, Obveeus wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2/6/2018 5:33 PM, moviePig wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Six high-school seniors gather for an evening of partying and 
> >>>>>>> spooky soul-searching.  For the first half of its 90 minutes, 
> >>>>>>> NOCTURNE promises a somewhat stylish and above-average 
> >>>>>>> horror-flick.  Then the second-half goes off the rails like a 
> >>>>>>> bent bicycle.  Minimally recommended.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> NOCTURNE a film that really does look like a direct to DVD 
> >>>>>> offering with a 4.7 IMDB score and yet you watched this while 
> >>>>>> forgoing the 6.0 THE CLOVERFIELD PARADOX?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I go into each movie pursuing a glimmer of hope.  But a movie being 
> >>>>> blatantly painted over to ride another's coattails snuffs that out.
> >>>>
> >>>> By 'painted over', I guess you me rewrite draft of a script?
> >>>>
> >>>> Side note:  the last CLOVERFIELD film (10 CLOVERFIELD LANE) was also 
> >>>> a rewrite of a different spec film script (THE CELLAR).
> >>>
> >>> If tCP was merely a rewrite, i.e., was "Cloverfield"ed before the 
> >>> cameras ever rolled, that'd make a difference to me.  But I thought 
> >>> it was filmed, shelved, and then re-titled with extreme prejudice.
> >>
> >>  From wiki:
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cloverfield_Paradox
> >>
> >> QUOTE:
> >> The film was shot in Los Angeles, California, where it received tax 
> >> credits under the state's film incentive program.[19] While filming in 
> >> Los Angeles, the project was shot under the titles of God Particle and 
> >> Clean Pass.[20] Filming began on June 10, 2016 and wrapped on 
> >> September 23, 2016.[17] According to Uziel, it was during production 
> >> that he came to learn that the film was being connected to 
> >> Cloverfield, requiring him to rewrite a few scenes and added addition 
> >> shooting.[9] Uziel speculated that the decision to connect to 
> >> Cloverfield was due to the difficulty in marketing a stand-alone 
> >> science-fiction film at the time, and felt the connection between the 
> >> films was more of an anthology series similar to The Twilight Zone, 
> >> with each movie dealing with how people with complex relations deal 
> >> with a other-worldly dilemma.[9]
> >> :UNQUOTE
> >>
> >>
> >> That paragraph would appear to me to indicate that the rewriting and 
> >> filming of CLOVERFIELD tie-in stuff occurred during the original 
> >> filming of the project.  there is other stuff at the link that hints 
> >> that the script sat around for a few years before any filming began 
> >> (probably because most scripts do and because of studio/ownership 
> >> changes).  Also, after filming, the link explains some delay in 
> >> release as they worked on an ARG video game tie-in and wrung their 
> >> hands about how the high cost of the film would prevent it from 
> >> becoming a theatrical success.
> > 
> > So he did the re-writes "during" shooting, a sort-of hybrid status. 
> > Then, however, they judged the result unworthy of theaters.  A year 
> > later, the Netflix deal materialized.
> > 
> > Afaics, the most favorable indicator therein is the Netflix badge -- 
> > better than, say, a Showtime premiere, but not as auspicious as a 2,000 
> > theater Friday.
> 
> What if it was a 2,000 theater opening in February?
> We are in the month when garbage is traditionally dumped to the big screens.

Except, of course the January/February Liam Neeson Paradox