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Subject: Re: NIK rises from the dead
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On 10/26/2017 9:39 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 17:57:09 -0400, PeterN
> <"peter,newdelete"@deleteverizon.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 10/26/2017 11:26 AM, Tony Cooper wrote:
>>> On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 10:29:56 -0400, PeterN
>>> <"peter,newdelete"@deleteverizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/26/2017 3:34 AM, Savageduck wrote:
>>>>> On Oct 25, 2017, Tony Cooper wrote
>>>>> (in article<2kn2vc5tpkdm0tus82ipm2r16ho4vman87@4ax.com>):
>>>>>
>>>>>> DxO has purchased NIK and will continue development.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://petapixel.com/2017/10/25/dxo-buys-nik-collection-google-will...
>>>>>> velopment/?mc_cid=54bcc5e002&mc_eid=b307a66a15
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe that with this move, and what is happening with many of the various
>>>>> plugin, and Adobe alternative developers, 2018 is going to be an interesting
>>>>> year. 2018 is going to be the year of the race to provide the photography
>>>>> world a standalone DAM replacement for LR6, and there are going to be so many
>>>>> contendors it is going to look like a presidential primary.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as NIK truly rising from the dead as a set of image enhancement tools,
>>>>> DxO will have to deliver a worthy update/upgrade to surpass what other
>>>>> developers in the field have done since Google pulled the development plug.
>>>>> In my case, various pieces of the NIK Collection are seldom used today.I will
>>>>> watch to see what happens to NIK with a French accent, and I will test it,
>>>>> but for the most part I have moved on.
>>>>>
>>>>> ColorEfex has been surpassed by On1, Exposure X3, and Luminar.
>>>>
>>>> I have only used On1,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Viveza cannot match Luminar, or current editions of On1 Photo RAW.
>>>>
>>>> Again, I have only used On1, and Topaz. For a quick and dirty adjustment
>>>> I prefer Viveza.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Silver Efex Pro has been out done by Exposure X3, Luminar, Tonality, and On1
>>>>> (&  I suspect the Topaz stuff).
>>>>>
>>>>> HDR Efex Pro was once a benchmark, but no longer. Adobe does a better job
>>>>> today with LR-C CC and ACR, but the current best HDR software is
>>>>> MacPhun’s(Skylum) Aurora HDR 2018.
>>>>>
>>>>> AnalogPro never even got to the level of Exposure X, X2, or X3.
>>>>>
>>>>> ...and Define has been left in the shade by MacPhun’s (soon to be SkyLume)
>>>>> Noiseless CK and Luminar.
>>>>>
>>>> Topaz does a great job, but only on RAW images. I am starting to play
>>>> with DxO again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Of course that is all opinion. What I like about NIK is the control
>>>> points. With other filters I use masking and blending, which takes much
>>>> longer, but it is more accurate, for me.
>>>
>>> Free isn't bad, either.
>>>
>>
>> I have been told that most of the plug in functions can be done in PS,
>> without plugins.
> 
> Most of the plug-in functions of most of the plug-ins for PS can be
> replicated in PS without the plug-in.  However, it's easier and faster
> to get the same place with a plug-in.

No question about that.

> 
> An effect created with a plug-in can be deleted and replaced with
> slightly different effect with a few keystrokes, but making that
> change in PS may require figuring out which layer to change.  That is,
> if the user is smart enough to work on effects a layer at a time.
> 

Yup! That is why I label my layers.



-- 
PeterN