From: Mayayana <mayayana@invalid.nospam>
Subject: Re: Windows 10. Horrible!
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From: "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam>
Subject: Re: Windows 10. Horrible!
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 16:07:42 -0400
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"Alfred Molon"<> wrote

| > Win8 is basically
| > the same thing, but with the memory hogging, irrelevant
| > Metro services UI stuck on top.
| What on earth is that?

   A bit hard to explain if you haven't seen it.
Up to Win7 there's the basic desktop that Windows
boots to. The Windows system itself is a software
platform, running Win32 software that uses system
library functions. Just like Win3/95/98/2000/XP/etc.
    Starting with Win8, Microsoft created
a sandboxed app UI that boots on top of the
desktop. It's an add-on subsystem. The desktop
can still be accessed, but the monotoned app UI
with giant buttons comes in on top. It was known
as Metro.

   Metro was later renamed to "modern UI" and
apps renamed to "modern apps", "universal apps",
etc. Microsoft keep changing names as part of
marketing and, like drug companies or mercenary
contractors, whenever one name gets tainted by

   The basic idea was that Microsoft was trying
to blend Windows, tablets and phones. All would
have the same UI. All would sync. They were hoping
the vast coverage of the Windows base would help
them sell their online services and phones. People
would get familiar with Metro, then buy Windows
phones and use Windows phone apps.
  There were several problems:

  * Metro apps made no sense on a desktop or laptop.

  * Few Metro apps were written, due to lack of market.
     Microsoft even wrote some of them for companies,
     but the whole business just didn't work out.

  * Windows phones never took off. Recently MS have
even pretty much admitted that they're dropping phones.
(For the second or third time.) Bill Gates and other top
MS people even acknowledged they're personally using
Android phones.

  * Windows Surface has had some success as an expensive
laptop, but in general people don't use Windows tablets.

  So Metro is a "device ecosystem" with no devices
and no apps. MS were stuck with a ridiculously out-of-
place Metro UI on Win8 and no purpose for it.

  On Win10, Metro is more in the background. Microsoft
still hope to convert the entire Windows customer base
to online services -- by hook, crook, or strangulation
if necessary. All of Win10 is gradually being converted
to a sort of kiosk/phone app system. Win32 (compiled)
software that actually runs on the Win32 platform is
being "deprecated" in favor of service apps that are
essentially script-driven webpages. There are actually
already versions of Windows that won't allow installing
your own Windows software. (Compiled Win32 software.)
Only windows store apps, mainly trinket, non-compiled
services apps, and limited software from partners, are

   The whole thing is about trying to cash in on web-
based services, datamining and ads. They think that's
the future. In the meantime Win10 is a sort of 2-headed
monster. Corporate customers have some control over
it, but they're still avoiding it because it's not designed
to be a work system. Non-corporate customers are
stuck with a transforming services device and a license
that says Microsoft can and will change the product
at will, installing or even removing software as they see
fit; gradually adding ads; selling personal information
from "telemetry". (Read spyware.)

  It seems like a lot of random design ideas on the surface,
but if you think of it in terms of the move toward ad-supported
services it makes more sense.

  Concurrent with that is a move toward "silos", which
has gone almost unnoticed. Silo is a term that Tim
Berners-Lee coined to refer to closed systems online, like
AOL. What's developing is multi-pronged "super silos".
Companies like MS, Apple, Google and Amazon are
trying to come up with ways to get people into their
systems and then keep them there, with special
IDs used to buy services. Microsoft with Windows,
X-Box and their now-failed phones, as well as
Office/Office365, free webmail, etc., hope to use
Win10 as a big part of that approach. You're not
invited into MicrosoftWorld as a Windows user.
Windows becomes MicrosoftWorld.

  Remember when Bill Gates famously said they'd
beat Netscape by "cutting off their air supply"?
That meant installing Internet Explorer into the
system and blocking Netscape at every opportunity.
This is the same idea. If people have to use Windows
for their work, and MS can gradually swap out
their Windows car for a Windows Services Taxi,
then they can leverage the entire customer base
to catch up in the ad/services market.

  Apropos of that, I saw the show "Shark Tank"
last night. A couple of men were trying to sell
their electric car service to the investors. They
let people pick up a car through an app and drive
it for free. Money is made by plastering the cars
with ads... Where will it stop? If no one ever has
to pay for anything, then what function will all the
ads serve?