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From: nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Subject: Re: Windows 10. Horrible!
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2017 19:09:29 -0400
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In article <otdhd9$qk2$>, Mayayana<mayayana@invalid.nospam> wrote:

> |    I don't accept your statement that networked
> | machines shouldn't be connected to the Internet.
>   They're high risk. Many people want to be able to
> network their computers. Maybe you find it a hassle
> to walk downstairs with a USB stick to move a file.

you don't actually do that, do you? 

> That's understandable. Networking is convenient.

and extremely useful.

> But there is high risk. there's nothing there to "accept"
> or not. You're choosing convenience over risk. The
> only thing more risky would be to not acknowledge
> that.

it's only high risk for those who don't take steps to properly secure

>   That's why we have hacks of Home Depot, Target,
> etc. Access online is connected to the backend data.
> Those sites will be hacked until they stop connecting
> the internal network online. I once saw somewhere that
> the CIA (or is it the FBI?) gives 2 computers to each
> agent in their office. One is internal. One is Internet-
> connected.

no, it's because they don't bother securing anything. 

for target, the patch had been released, but nobody bothered applying
it. just like equifax.

and should that happen again (which it will), those who use apple pay
and android pay are completely immune.