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On Thu, 09 Nov 2017 09:03:18 -0500, nospam<nospam@nospam.invalid>

>In article<>, Alan Browne
><> wrote:
>> > meanwhile, the rest of the world wants to do actual work, not open
>> > up their computer and swap parts all day long.
>> The usual asshat reply from nospam.   People don't "swap parts all day 
>> long".  They do it when needed from time to time.
>actually, they don't. the vast majority of users have someone else
>repair their computer, just as they do with their cars, tvs and other

Computer repairers usually charge on the basis of time and that's a
good reason for making the replacement of parts quick and easy.
>> When a drive is failing, failed or not large enough it is trivial to 
>> remove and replace.  About 10 minutes with most desktops.
>only if someone has the skills and tools.

No tools were required for this task on the Acer.
>while readers of usenet might, the general public is not going to open
>up a computer to swap a hard drive.
>> On a current iMac it can easily take an hour or more.  Tedious.  And no 
>> reason to make it so difficult other than the Apple aesthetic.
>the reason is that opening a computer is rarely done, if ever, and
>optimizing for that scenario stupid.

But toolless construction makes a computer quicker and cheaper to
build and that's a plus for the manufacturer.
>it makes a lot more sense to optimize a computer for every day use,
>versus something that *might* happen.
>some cars have the battery in the wheel well, requiring a wheel to be
>removed just to swap the battery. since car batteries usually last 5-10
>years, that's a very good design decision.

That's a lousy design decision. It's even worse than having to remove
a wheel and the wheel-arch liner just to change a headlight bulb.


Eric Stevens