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Subject: Re: Thread shows how DSLRs have fallen compared to mirrorless
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On Sunday, 19 November 2017 20:53:59 UTC-5, Savageduck  wrote:
> On Nov 19, 2017, Neil wrote
> (in article <out9g5$l0i$1@dont-email.me>):
> 
> > On 11/19/2017 7:39 PM, Savageduck wrote:
> > > On Nov 19, 2017, RichA wrote
> > > (in article<739f0e77-eeed-403b-bf6c-d7bb96210871@googlegroups.com>):
> > >
> > > > Shooting with a DSLR, trying to manually focus with an OVF and controlling
> > > > blur-inducing problems caused by mirror-slap and the like is trying to say
> > > > the least.
> > > > Nikon's focus confirmation works pretty well, but not as well as using a
> > > > magnified image in a top-grade EVF. 40+mp on a DSLR might not be the
> > > > smartest
> > > > thing to go with if an equivalent mirrorless is available and you want the
> > > > sharpest image. Of course, DSLR's still have the best focusing for a moving
> > > > subject and action, but then no action shot ever makes full use of top
> > > > pixel
> > > > counts anyway. Put it another way, you just paid $3500 for a lens capable
> > > > and
> > > > built for resolution, why sabotage it down to the level of a $400 lens?
> > > >
> > > > https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/60396923
> > >
> > > Regardless of the technical details of that article and subsequent debate, I
> > > can only speak to my experience.
> > >
> > > With my old SLR’s with focus screen and/or split-image, and rangefinders
> > > with traditional split-image focusing I was quite happy to have nothing but
> > > manual focus.
> > >
> > > Then came my various compacts, and DSLRs with autofocus none of which
> > > provided manual focus I felt I could truly rely on.So with my Nikon DSLRs,
> > > Fuji E900, and Canon G11 I always used AF, and never considered MF. Nturally
> > > I had my fair share of rejects due to bad AF focus acquisition.
> > >
> > > Then I moved to Fujifilm mirrorless with EVF where manual assist is,Peak
> > > Focusing or electronic split-image. My preference is for Peak focusing which
> > > make manual focusing very accurate, and a breeze, and now that I can rely on
> > > that accuracy, I find that I really enjoy using manual focus. With my
> > > X-series mirrorless, EVF cameras, when I am not pressed for time, I find
> > > that
> > > it is simple to confirm AF by checking with manual override peak focus when
> > > I
> > > have AF+MF set in shooting preferences.
> > >
> > > I am sure that AF in newer DSLRs such as the D500, or D850 is superb, but I
> > > have been spoilt with what an EVF delivers these days.
> > IMO, it's a more complex problem than EVF resolution. Throughout the
> > '70s I was doing a lot of video production. Video cameras had EVFs at
> > comparatively very low resolution (640x480), but that didn't hamper
> > manual focus in the least. The video cams' EVFs also displayed exposure
> > and other image qualities via "zebra stripes" and such. By comparison,
> > digital cameras with EVFs were useless toys to me because they lacked
> > these sophistications from decades earlier.
> 
> I have never been a video shooter, and even now that I have 4K available in 
> the X-T2 video is the least of my priorities.
> 
> My first experience with an EVF was a Nikon Coolpix 5700. That had a tiny, 
> and barely functional EVF, and I very quickly decided that generation of EVF 
> was not for me, so I made the move to DSLR, and back to OVF.  

Try focusing a 3000mm telescope using an Olympus C-3040, 3mp P&S (2001) with what might have been a
240,000 pixel EVF, talk about going blind!  Things have improved markedly since then.