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From: PeterN <peter.new@verizon.net>
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Subject: Re: CF cards apparently not dead yet
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 10:29:07 -0500
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On 11/30/2017 9:22 PM, nospam wrote:
> In article<q1a12d9msklql1uenqv73qfdg3l647mbbs@4ax.com>, Tony Cooper
><tonycooper214@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>>> So we have two people with anecdotal versions.  One says he's not
>>>> concerned with the amount of time it takes to upload photos from a
>>>> card, and the other is concerned that it takes 15 minutes to upload
>>>> his videos.
>>>
>>> since the transfer is local, it's called copying.
>>
>> The process is called many things...upload, download, import, copy,
>> transfer, etc.
> 
> some of which are incorrect.
> 
>> Adobe uses two terms on this page:
>>
>> https://helpx.adobe.com/bridge/using/import-camera-photos-bridge.htm
>>
>> The top line says "import photos" and #2 says to "Click Download
>> Images".
> 
> download is incorrect, although it's sometimes used for
> camera->computer.
> 
>> SanDisk uses "transfer" and "transfer speed":
> 
> transfer is equivalent to copy.
> 
> they didn't say upload or download.
> 
>> https://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/7491/~/sandisk-produc...
>> r-speed
>>
>> The different card readers that came up in a search also use
>> "Transfer".
>>
>> In Lightroom, the word "Copy" is used. but they also use "import" when
>> they say refer to getting images from a card to Lightroom.
> 
> importing is much more than a simple copy.
> 
>> https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/help/importing-photos-lightroom-ba...
>> ow.html
>>
>> I agree that "upload" or "download" are the least applicable terms,
> 
> not only least applicable, but wrong.
> 
>> but you can't say that "it's called copying" as if it's the *right*
>> term because "copy" is used less than "transfer" any of the other
>> terms including "upload" and "download" by the general user.
> 
> i never said copy was the *only* term, and it's used *far* more often
> than transfer.
> 
> a common (yet inefficient) way to copy a file in windows is choose copy
> from the edit menu (or ctrl-c). not transfer.
> 
> move is another, although move means deleting the originals.
> 
> import is specific to asset managers, since it's a lot more than just
> copying.
> 
> the point is that upload and download are incorrect.
> 
>> I like precise use of the correct words in any situation, but there is
>> no precise term in this case.   The *function* is a copy function
>> since the files remain on the original medium and are replicated in a
>> new location, but the term "copy" has not achieved any standard
>> status.
> 
> copying does not mean deleting the original.
> 
> if the original is deleted after a copy, it's a move.
> 
>>> upload or download would be when it involves a remote system (i.e., the
>>> cloud), which it does not.
>>>
>> For that matter, an upload or a download is also a copy function.  The
>> uploaded or downloaded files are replicated in another location, but
>> we don't use "copy" to describe uploading or downloading.
> 
> sometimes copy is used in that context and may be acceptable.
> 
> examples: copy to the cloud. copy to the server.
> 
>> "Transfer" - a widely used term - is sorta incorrect since the files
>> are not transferred from one place to another.
> 
> yes they most certainly are transferred.
> 
> once again, you're *well* out of your league.
> 
True. He stopped using Kindergarten arguments a long time ago.
It is noted that once more, you twisted my plain statement, that the 
speed of copying images from a card is not the most important element of 
photography, into a meaningless blather.
-- 
PeterN