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From: PeterN <"peter,newdelete"@deleteverizon.net>
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Subject: Re: Apple played digital liberal nanny-stater, now faces several
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Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2018 12:17:06 -0500
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On 12/28/2017 11:42 PM, nospam wrote:
> In article <p24g9b$tgu$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Mayayana
><mayayana@invalid.nospam> wrote:
> 
>> "PeterN" <"peter,newdelete"@deleteverizon.net> wrote
>>
>> | You and I are not Apple's target customer for watches. I suspect that
>> | few here are, regardless of whether they own one.
>> | Just because I own an iPhone8+ doesn't mean I am a target customer.
>> |
> 
> 
>>    It's not about whether I'm a target customer. It's the market
>> trend and has been for awhile. And not just with Apple:
>>
>> http://www.businessinsider.com/smartwatch-usage-declining-emarketer...
>> s-2017-12
> 
> android smartwatches are mostly a failure, with some makers exiting the
> market.
> 
> meanwhile, the apple watch and fitness trackers are a huge success.
> 
>>    If there were a market I expect Apple would rule it.
> 
> and they do.
> 
> as i linked before:
> <http://www.businessinsider.com/how-the-apple-watch-just-became-the-...
> er-one-watch-in-the-world-2017-9>
>    The company's CEO Tim Cook told attendees that the tech giant now
>    sells the number one watch in the world, leapfrogging Rolex in the
>    process. Cook also said the Watch saw stunning 50% year over year
>    sales growth in August.
> 
> and from *last* year:
> <http://bgr.com/2016/04/26/apple-watch-sales-vs-rolex/>
>    So, just to reiterate one last time and let it really sink in, Apple
>    Watch sales totaled about $6 billion in its first year of existence.
>    Meanwhile, the world¹s foremost luxury watch brand did $4.5 billion
>    in sales across its entire product portfolio last year. In fact, the
>    combined sales of all top Swiss watch makers totaled roughly $20
>    billion in 2015, so Apple is nearly one-third of the way there after
>    just one year.
> 
>>    But
>> some things are just too dumb.
> 
> not as dumb as some people...
> 
>> They tried to create a market
>> because the idea of a whole new gadget market was appealing.
>> There's not much more logic than that.
> 
> apple did not create the wearables market.
> 
> in fact, it's existed for several decades.
> 
>>    On the other hand, why shouldn't I be a target customer?
>> Most people now use computer phones. A computer watch
>> is presumably supposed to complement a computer phone.
>> But of course it doesn't.
> 
> actually, it does.
> 
>> Even if it could accurately count
>> my footsteps that's an absurd function.
> 
> it does that too, and quite a bit more.
> 
>> I thought pedometers
>> were clever when I was 10 years old.
> 
> out of touch with reality, as usual
> 
>>     If the target market is high income 30-somethings who
>> want a watch for "self expression" then that's another way
>> of pointing out that the emperor has no clothes.... Or in
>> this case, that the watch has no function.
> 
> very out of touch.
> 

Glad you know the target market, and statistics to back up that 
information. Last week I spoke to a member of the Apple marketing team, 
it was a corporate secret. BTW what entity is one of the top five 
largest co-marketer with Apple?

-- 
PeterN