From: ultred ragnusen <ultred@ragnusen.com>
Subject: Re: Windows freeware to lock in a 3: or 4:3 aspect ratio for cropping
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From: ultred ragnusen <ultred@ragnusen.com>
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Subject: Re: Windows freeware to lock in a 3: or 4:3 aspect ratio for cropping
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 13:07:37 -0800
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wrote:

> Try the Associated Image setting. The default is "Full Screen". Change it.
> 
> https://s14.postimg.org/ftqehnrld/faststone.gif

Voila! That was the charm button!
https://s14.postimg.org/ftqehnrld/faststone.gif

Fastone: Settings > Settings > Viewer > Associated image launches in:
 Change the default from: Full Screen
 Change the default to: Windowed View

And, get this ... we get sane /fixed menus/ out of the deal, for free!

Thank you Paul for finding the Fastone "sane setting" for its defaults!

Back on topic, the known Windows aspect-ratio freeware apps are:
# Fastone (the aspect ratio crop is the best - on top of the picture)
# Microsoft Photos (the aspect ratio crop is sadly below the picture)
# Irfanview (the aspect ratio crop is cryptically accessed with Shift+C)
# The GIMP (the aspect ratio crop is, like all things Gimp, unintuitive)
# ?

How to force a fixed aspect ratio in Fastone crop commands:
# Open the image in Fastone 
# Fastone: Edit > Crop Board (aka X) > Paper Ratio > ... > 4:3 Ratio > OK
# Left-mouse intuitively adjust the size and location of the crop area
# Press the "Crop" button
# Note that Fastone will remember your 4:3 selection for the next edit.
# Note that there are keyboard shortcut keys to shorten the sequence.
# For multiple aspect crops, pressing the "X" on the keyboard works well!

How to force a fixed aspect ratio in Irfanview crop commands:
# Open the image in Irfanview
# Left click drag & then lift up at your approximate desired crop area 
# Irfanview: Edit > Create custom crop selection (aka <shift+c>)
# In the "Create custom selection" form, choose your desired aspect ratio
# In the "Create custom selection" form, press "Save and draw on image"
# To adjust just the location, right click on the selection box & drag 
# To adjust the area, hold the keyboard <alt> key & left-click drag an edge

-- 
The developers deserve a reprieve since I had already ordered them shot!