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Subject: Re: The Feds Can Now (Probably) Unlock Every iPhone Model In Existence
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From: Davoud <>
Subject: Re: The Feds Can Now (Probably) Unlock Every iPhone Model In Existence
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2018 10:47:55 -0500
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> > As for the safety of phones, what I might or might not know about that
> > is not for your eyes. In essence, the safety of your mobile phone lies
> > in the fact that no one is listening. You and your communications are
> > of no importance to the intelligence community.

ultred ragnusen:
> Also take, for example, those Cessnas flying daily over our cities,
> scooping up the IMEIs and locations of tens of thousands of innocent people
> in each flight.

When paranoid conspiracy theories come into the mix I bail out. It
would be ridiculous (and needlessly expensive) to collect IMEIs from
aircraft in a US city.

> Back to the main point, there is no communication device that is secure.

That isn't true. It may be the case that technically secure
communications devices are unavailable to the public. But I repeat that
the security of your mobile phone is assured by the fact that no one is
listening to you.

> Bear in mind that the actual communication (the very words spoken and
> the
> texts sent) of law-abiding US citizens are also scooped up very often by
> the intelligence community, e.g., on any overseas telephone call to your
> own grandchildren as they travel abroad.

This brings us to the second reason (after disinterest) that no one is
listening. The community would need millions upon millions of employees
to target your calls to grandma. It's ludicrous to think that they are
monitoring you.

Your post points back to my assertion: you know nothing whatsoever
about SIGINT collection. You are getting your information from others
who know nothing about the subject.

I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

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