Subject: Re: The Feds Can Now (Probably) Unlock Every iPhone Model InExistence
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Subject: Re: The Feds Can Now (Probably) Unlock Every iPhone Model In
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 10:50:50 -0500
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On 3/1/2018 10:02 AM, ultred ragnusen wrote:
> Davoud<> wrote:
>> As for the safety of phones, what I might or might not know about that
>> is not for your eyes. In essence, the safety of your mobile phone lies
>> in the fact that no one is listening. You and your communications are
>> of no importance to the intelligence community.
> You /wish/ that were the case the our government doesn't illegally spy on
> our citizens, but you have to remember /many/ a president has broken the
> Constitution by ordering our own government to spy on our citizens,
> illegally.
> Take, for example, the well-known fact of what J. Edgar Hoover did over a
> series of presidencies, or that Lyndon Johnson ordered the spying of
> anti-war demonstrators.
> Also take, for example, those Cessnas flying daily over our cities,
> scooping up the IMEIs and locations of tens of thousands of innocent people
> in each flight.
> Bear in mind that the actual communication (the very words spoken and the
> texts sent) of law-abiding US citizens are also scooped up very often by
> the intelligence community, e.g., on any overseas telephone call to your
> own grandchildren as they travel abroad.
> Back to the main point, there is no communication device that is secure.
> None. Anyone who thinks they have security should just read the Zimmermann
> telegram, or read about the Purple or JN24 or the black code or ultra
> enigma communications or even the Cairo diplomatic cables of WWII infamy,
> where entire extremely well motivated and well funded government
> bureaucracies /thought/ that their communications were secure, which made
> them /feel/ safe, just as the owners of brand X mobile devices are made to
> /feel/ safe, that feeling for which they pay through the nose, and which is
> vapor.
> All this doesn't mean we should give up on security; it just means that no
> mobile device is secure when all of them have the same weak links.

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