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Subject: Re: The Feds Can Now (Probably) Unlock Every iPhone Model In Existence
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From: ultred ragnusen <>
Subject: Re: The Feds Can Now (Probably) Unlock Every iPhone Model In Existence
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 18:52:14 -0800
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nospam<nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> trivial or not (and it's not), it's still illegal. it's fraud. end of
> story.

Again, your credibility is worthless to you.

In addition, your memory is about as good as Bill Clintons, as we've many
times discussed the elements (often 5) of fraud (depending on the type of
law involved), /all/ of which must be present, in order for an act to be

 Anyone here with real-world experience changing your IMEI on Android?

Simply changing your IMEI isn't fraud in /any/ country in the world, and
even where the act of changing an IMEI is considered fraud, it's just a
cheap political trick which we have proven in the past even the originators
of the law openly admit that all they wanted to do was 'send a message' but
where, as I recall, essentially zero /successful/ prosecutions resulted in
a dozen years in force.

> your attempts to rationalize illegal activities is noted.

Your credibility is worthless to you, as your statement that it's illegal
is patently false in almost the entire world, and even where it is illegal,
the law was never intended to be anything but a symbolic gesture ... 

Worse, you have absolutely no idea what constitutes fraud.

All of which have the same essential elements, depending on the type of law
involved and the jurisdiction, and where changing the IMEI is /never/ going
to be fraud any more than changing your underwear constitutes rape.