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that guns don't kill people, gun toting Texas redneck conservatives kill people. 

	
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> that guns don't kill people, gun toting Texas redneck conservatives kill people.



Tell that to a gun. 

	
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On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 5:57:28 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
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> > that guns don't kill people, gun toting Texas redneck conservatives kill people.
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> Tell that to a gun.

Tell that to your dead child. 

	
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On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 5:36:46 PM UTC-5, urinalcakes wrote:
> that guns don't kill people, gun toting Texas redneck conservatives kill people.

The truth is the guy was a left wing atheist who 
hated America, conservatives and traditional values. 
Which is why he committed the murders in a Christian church. 

Irish Mike 

	
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> On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 5:36:46 PM UTC-5, urinalcakes wrote:
>> that guns don't kill people, gun toting Texas redneck conservatives kill 
>> people.
>
> The truth is the guy was a left wing atheist...

Wow.  I haven't seen a lie that desperate in a long time. 

	
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> > On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 5:36:46 PM UTC-5, urinalcakes wrote:
> >> that guns don't kill people, gun toting Texas redneck conservatives kill 
> >> people.
> >
> > The truth is the guy was a left wing atheist...
> 
> Wow.  I haven't seen a lie that desperate in a long time.

He was certainly an atheist. He was an extremely disturbed individual who _was not legally able to
buy a gun_ except that the Air Force did not report his conviction for violent crimes to the civil
authorities. His neighbors and friends who have been interviewed don't seem to describe him as a
"redneck" or "right-wing" or any of the things you wish he were

-- 
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> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 11:39:32 AM UTC-5, Clave wrote:
>><irishranger317@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:782ac66a-9c06-43f1-bbb4-daea1c930ce0@googlegroups.com...
>> > On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 5:36:46 PM UTC-5, urinalcakes wrote:
>> >> that guns don't kill people, gun toting Texas redneck conservatives 
>> >> kill
>> >> people.
>> >
>> > The truth is the guy was a left wing atheist...
>>
>> Wow.  I haven't seen a lie that desperate in a long time.
>
> He was certainly an atheist. He was an extremely disturbed individual who 
> _was not legally able to buy a gun_ except that the Air Force did not 
> report his conviction for violent crimes to the civil authorities. His 
> neighbors and friends who have been interviewed don't seem to describe him 
> as a "redneck" or "right-wing" or any of the things you wish he were

Guess what?  I never wished he was anything but dead.

You people and your little make-believe stories... 

	
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On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 6:59:31 AM UTC-8, irishra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 5:36:46 PM UTC-5, urinalcakes wrote:
> > that guns don't kill people, gun toting Texas redneck conservatives kill people.
> 
> The truth is the guy was a left wing atheist who 
> hated America, conservatives and traditional values. 
> Which is why he committed the murders in a Christian church. 
> 
> Irish Mike

Strange, isn't it that if someone from a Muslim country kills they're automatically a Muslim but if
someone from a Christian country kills they're automatically not Christian. 

	
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On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 5:36:46 PM UTC-5, urinalcakes wrote:
> that guns don't kill people, gun toting Texas redneck conservatives kill people.

He wasn't a conservative. He also had no legal business owning a weapon. He had  been convicted of a
violent felony but the Air Force didn't pass the information on.
'
Ban the Air Force.

------------
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> He wasn't a conservative.

He wasn't a conservative, he was an atheist. How do you know so much 
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On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 1:07:45 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
> Will in New Haven wrote:
> > He wasn't a conservative.
> 
> He wasn't a conservative, he was an atheist. How do you know so much 
> about this guy?



Urinal Cakes has chewing gum in his brain.  Cool nickname, though. 

	
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On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 21:07:45 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> Will in New Haven wrote:
> > He wasn't a conservative.
> 
> He wasn't a conservative, he was an atheist. 

Do you think there are no conservative atheists? Maybe I need to brush up on my American definition
of 'conservative' (I recall Vanek seeming to say that atheists and liberals were the same thing).

> How do you know so much about this guy?

Maybe because he doesn't only read the MSM Fake News.

I believe other evidence also suggests that he wasn't a conservative. So that unchecks two of the
most vilified categories (White (Y), Christian (N), Conservative (N)) of the rabid anti-Western left. 

	
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fffurken wrote:
> On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 21:07:45 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
>> Will in New Haven wrote:
>>> He wasn't a conservative.
>>
>> He wasn't a conservative, he was an atheist.
>
> Do you think there are no conservative atheists? Maybe I need to brush up on my American
definition of 'conservative' (I recall Vanek seeming to say that atheists and liberals were the same
thing).
>
>> How do you know so much about this guy?
>
> Maybe because he doesn't only read the MSM Fake News.

There's no such thing.

> I believe other evidence also suggests that he wasn't a conservative. So that unchecks two of the
most vilified categories (White (Y), Christian (N), Conservative (N)) of the rabid anti-Western left.
>

Quit making shit up. 

	
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On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 23:31:54 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> fffurken wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 21:07:45 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> >> Will in New Haven wrote:
> >>> He wasn't a conservative.
> >>
> >> He wasn't a conservative, he was an atheist.
> >
> > Do you think there are no conservative atheists? Maybe I need to brush up on my American
definition of 'conservative' (I recall Vanek seeming to say that atheists and liberals were the same
thing).
> >
> >> How do you know so much about this guy?
> >
> > Maybe because he doesn't only read the MSM Fake News.
> 
> There's no such thing.
> 
> > I believe other evidence also suggests that he wasn't a conservative. So that unchecks two of
the most vilified categories (White (Y), Christian (N), Conservative (N)) of the rabid anti-Western
left.
> >
> 
> Quit making shit up.

What's that? 

	
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>On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 21:07:45 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
>> Will in New Haven wrote:
>> > He wasn't a conservative.
>> 
>> He wasn't a conservative, he was an atheist. 
>
>Do you think there are no conservative atheists? Maybe I need to brush up on my American definition
of 'conservative' (I recall Vanek seeming to say that atheists and liberals were the same thing).

Not really. Progressivism certainly worships government, and religion
and God are enemies of totalitarian rulers, so it's not terribly far
off to say that Progressives are all atheists. It's harder to
stereotype your run of the mill liberal. They're more likely to be
atheists, but the one thing they are with certainty is mentally ill. 

	
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> >Do you think there are no conservative atheists? Maybe I need to brush up on my American
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thing).
> 
> Not really. Progressivism certainly worships government, and religion
> and God are enemies of totalitarian rulers, so it's not terribly far
> off to say that Progressives are all atheists. 

lol

Vanek Dictionary

atheist
noun

  a person who worships government

> It's harder to
> stereotype your run of the mill liberal. They're more likely to be
> atheists, but the one thing they are with certainty is mentally ill.

lol x 2

"Atheism is a sign of mental illness" - Irony 

	
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On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 6:17:14 PM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:
> On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 01:30:14 UTC, Bill Vanek  wrote:
> 
> > >Do you think there are no conservative atheists? Maybe I need to brush up on my American
definition of 'conservative' (I recall Vanek seeming to say that atheists and liberals were the same
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> > 
> > Not really. Progressivism certainly worships government, and religion
> > and God are enemies of totalitarian rulers, so it's not terribly far
> > off to say that Progressives are all atheists. 
> 
> lol
> 
> Vanek Dictionary
> 
> atheist
> noun
> 
>   a person who worships government
> 
> > It's harder to
> > stereotype your run of the mill liberal. They're more likely to be
> > atheists, but the one thing they are with certainty is mentally ill.
> 
> lol x 2
> 
> "Atheism is a sign of mental illness" - Irony



Vanek is right on the money, numbnuts. 

	
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> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 6:17:14 PM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 01:30:14 UTC, Bill Vanek  wrote:
> > 
> > > >Do you think there are no conservative atheists? Maybe I need to brush up on my American
definition of 'conservative' (I recall Vanek seeming to say that atheists and liberals were the same
thing).
> > > 
> > > Not really. Progressivism certainly worships government, and religion
> > > and God are enemies of totalitarian rulers, so it's not terribly far
> > > off to say that Progressives are all atheists. 
> > 
> > lol
> > 
> > Vanek Dictionary
> > 
> > atheist
> > noun
> > 
> >   a person who worships government
> > 
> > > It's harder to
> > > stereotype your run of the mill liberal. They're more likely to be
> > > atheists, but the one thing they are with certainty is mentally ill.
> > 
> > lol x 2
> > 
> > "Atheism is a sign of mental illness" - Irony
> 
> 
> 
> Vanek is right on the money, numbnuts.

lol Coming from you (a fanatical disciple) that means nothing, it's sorta like Dutch saying he
doesn't believe the MSM Fake News exists.

Why can't you just accept that atheism is a lack of belief in a (personal) God or religion? And that
you people are much more easily definable as batshit crazy. 

	
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> lol Coming from you (a fanatical disciple) that means nothing, it's sorta like Dutch saying he
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> 


I know, I saw that.  Dutch is an idiot.  God help him. 

	
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>On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 01:30:14 UTC, Bill Vanek  wrote:
>
>> >Do you think there are no conservative atheists? Maybe I need to brush up on my American
definition of 'conservative' (I recall Vanek seeming to say that atheists and liberals were the same
thing).
>> 
>> Not really. Progressivism certainly worships government, and religion
>> and God are enemies of totalitarian rulers, so it's not terribly far
>> off to say that Progressives are all atheists. 
>
>lol
>
>Vanek Dictionary
>
>atheist
>noun
>
>  a person who worships government
>
>> It's harder to
>> stereotype your run of the mill liberal. They're more likely to be
>> atheists, but the one thing they are with certainty is mentally ill.
>
>lol x 2
>
>"Atheism is a sign of mental illness" - Irony

Odd, but I've never noticed your inability to read until now. 

	
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> On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 18:17:10 -0800 (PST), fffurken<fffurken1@mail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 01:30:14 UTC, Bill Vanek  wrote:
> >
> >> >Do you think there are no conservative atheists? Maybe I need to brush up on my American
definition of 'conservative' (I recall Vanek seeming to say that atheists and liberals were the same
thing).
> >> 
> >> Not really. Progressivism certainly worships government, and religion
> >> and God are enemies of totalitarian rulers, so it's not terribly far
> >> off to say that Progressives are all atheists. 
> >
> >lol
> >
> >Vanek Dictionary
> >
> >atheist
> >noun
> >
> >  a person who worships government
> >
> >> It's harder to
> >> stereotype your run of the mill liberal. They're more likely to be
> >> atheists, but the one thing they are with certainty is mentally ill.
> >
> >lol x 2
> >
> >"Atheism is a sign of mental illness" - Irony
> 
> Odd, but I've never noticed your inability to read until now.

Why can't you just accept atheism for what it actually is?

I'll try the wiki link - 

Atheism is, in the broadest sense, the absence of belief in the existence of deities.[1][2][3][4]
Less broadly, atheism is the rejection of belief that any deities exist.[5][6] In an even narrower
sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.[1][2][7][8] Atheism is
contrasted with theism,[9][10] which, in its most general form, is the belief that at least one
deity exists.[10][11][12]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism 

	
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>On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 09:07:55 UTC, Bill Vanek  wrote:
>> On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 18:17:10 -0800 (PST), fffurken<fffurken1@mail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 01:30:14 UTC, Bill Vanek  wrote:
>> >
>> >> >Do you think there are no conservative atheists? Maybe I need to brush up on my American
definition of 'conservative' (I recall Vanek seeming to say that atheists and liberals were the same
thing).
>> >> 
>> >> Not really. Progressivism certainly worships government, and religion
>> >> and God are enemies of totalitarian rulers, so it's not terribly far
>> >> off to say that Progressives are all atheists. 
>> >
>> >lol
>> >
>> >Vanek Dictionary
>> >
>> >atheist
>> >noun
>> >
>> >  a person who worships government
>> >
>> >> It's harder to
>> >> stereotype your run of the mill liberal. They're more likely to be
>> >> atheists, but the one thing they are with certainty is mentally ill.
>> >
>> >lol x 2
>> >
>> >"Atheism is a sign of mental illness" - Irony
>> 
>> Odd, but I've never noticed your inability to read until now.
>
>Why can't you just accept atheism for what it actually is?
>
>I'll try the wiki link - 
>
>Atheism is, in the broadest sense, the absence of belief in the existence of deities.[1][2][3][4]
Less broadly, atheism is the rejection of belief that any deities exist.[5][6] In an even narrower
sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.[1][2][7][8] Atheism is
contrasted with theism,[9][10] which, in its most general form, is the belief that at least one
deity exists.[10][11][12]
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism

Why can't you just reread what I wrote, and your reply, and then
explain to me what this post has to do with anything I wrote? 

	
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> >Why can't you just accept atheism for what it actually is?
> >
> >I'll try the wiki link - 
> >
> >Atheism is, in the broadest sense, the absence of belief in the existence of deities.[1][2][3][4]
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contrasted with theism,[9][10] which, in its most general form, is the belief that at least one
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> >
> >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism
> 
> Why can't you just reread what I wrote, 

"Progressivism certainly worships government, and religion and God are enemies of totalitarian
rulers, so it's not terribly far off to say that Progressives are all atheists."

> and your reply, and then explain to me what this post has to do with anything I wrote?

I've always known you to say that atheists are people who believe (assert) that there is "no God",
which is false, or, at best, the narrowest definition from above.

I hadn't realised (until recently) the extent to which you've interwoven it with politics. Can you
get anything right about what atheism actually is? 

	
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> I hadn't realised (until recently) the extent to which you've interwoven it with politics. Can you
get anything right about what atheism actually is?


That's where it SHOULD be interwoven.  Every minister should be driving it home during their Sunday
sermons how there is a connection between atheists and evil, and especially how involved the
democrats are in this. 

	
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> there is a connection between atheists and evil

"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good
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> 
> "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good
things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes
religion."



In about 15 minutes, I am going to a casino.  I will not be thinking about your lost soul. 

	
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> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 9:02:51 PM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:
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> > 
> > "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing
good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes
religion."
> 
> 
> 
> In about 15 minutes, I am going to a casino.  I will not be thinking about your lost soul.



Good night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Z48dHFYLc 

	
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> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 9:20:42 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 9:02:51 PM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing
good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes
religion."
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > In about 15 minutes, I am going to a casino.  I will not be thinking about your lost soul.
> 
> 
> 
> Good night.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Z48dHFYLc

Like. 

	
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> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 8:28:45 PM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:
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>> I hadn't realised (until recently) the extent to which you've interwoven it with politics. Can
you get anything right about what atheism actually is?
>
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> That's where it SHOULD be interwoven.  Every minister should be driving it home during their
Sunday sermons how there is a connection between atheists and evil, and especially how involved the
democrats are in this.
>

Power to the People! 

	
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> Why can't you just accept atheism for what it actually is?
> 



Why can't you figure out that the most important element to the Left's philosophy is to destroy
peoples' faith in God?  The "opiate of the people".  That must mean something.

As a good Christian, I am supposed to be concerned about the souls of you people.  You're really a
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> Why can't you figure out that the most important element to the Left's philosophy is to destroy
peoples' faith in God?

I'm supposed to answer your questions but you don't answer mine? 

	
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> I'm supposed to answer your questions but you don't answer mine?



You don't rate. 

	
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> On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 18:17:10 -0800 (PST), fffurken<fffurken1@mail.com>
> wrote:
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> >On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 01:30:14 UTC, Bill Vanek  wrote:
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> >> >Do you think there are no conservative atheists? Maybe I need to brush up on my American
definition of 'conservative' (I recall Vanek seeming to say that atheists and liberals were the same
thing).
> >> 
> >> Not really. Progressivism certainly worships government, and religion
> >> and God are enemies of totalitarian rulers, so it's not terribly far
> >> off to say that Progressives are all atheists. 
> >
> >lol
> >
> >Vanek Dictionary
> >
> >atheist
> >noun
> >
> >  a person who worships government
> >
> >> It's harder to
> >> stereotype your run of the mill liberal. They're more likely to be
> >> atheists, but the one thing they are with certainty is mentally ill.
> >
> >lol x 2
> >
> >"Atheism is a sign of mental illness" - Irony
> 
> Odd, but I've never noticed your inability to read until now.

No one ever said that you were overly perceptive. 

	
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> stereotype your run of the mill liberal. They're more likely to be
> atheists, but the one thing they are with certainty is mentally ill.

I think you're mentally ill if you don't worship the flying spaghetti 
monster. 

	
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On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 5:30:14 PM UTC-8, Bill Vanek wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 14:53:10 -0800 (PST), fffurken<fffurken1@mail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 21:07:45 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> >> Will in New Haven wrote:
> >> > He wasn't a conservative.
> >> 
> >> He wasn't a conservative, he was an atheist. 
> >
> > Do you think there are no conservative atheists? Maybe I need to brush up on my 
> American definition of 'conservative' (I recall Vanek seeming to say that atheists and 
> liberals were the same thing).
 
> Not really.

LOL at you ‘God’ people. How about looking at your Religious Conservatives? They’re just using
religion, too, to control you. They yell “Squirrel!” (sic) “Look at Hillary!” “But
Obama!” “Uranium!”

You really believe all those Republican politicians are religious? That they believe in gods?
“Nixon goes to church Sunday, film at eleven.” Then lies and burglarizes. How many of those
“Good Christian Republicans” have been caught cheating on their wives, convicted of crimes and
jailed, yet still sell you on, “I believe in god and those Democrats don’t?”

You’re trying to use religion, where it – and they – are actually using you.

> Progressivism certainly worships government,

Good little stooge. Puke up some more FOX/GOP talking points. Then notice how the politicians you
‘worship’ keep using our government to further themselves? They use religion to use you. It
obviously works.

> and religion and God are enemies of totalitarian rulers, so it's not terribly far
> off to say that Progressives are all atheists.

Look what you wrote: “Progressives are all atheists.”
You wing-nuts are all parrots. You Cut & Paste that right from FOX/GOP? 

> It's harder to stereotype your run of the mill liberal.

Because we can’t be. But I’ve just stereotyped you. Just as your party has.
Now tell us what a “Run of the mill” liberal is. 

> They're more likely to be atheists, but the one thing they are with certainty is mentally ill.

Say they guy that just made mentally ill statements. Boy, have they ever got you…

Jerry (run-of-the-mill Atheist) ‘n Vegas 

	
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On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 8:46:06 AM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 5:30:14 PM UTC-8, Bill Vanek wrote:
> > On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 14:53:10 -0800 (PST), fffurken<fffurken1@mail.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > >On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 21:07:45 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> > >> Will in New Haven wrote:
> > >> > He wasn't a conservative.
> > >> 
> > >> He wasn't a conservative, he was an atheist. 
> > >
> > > Do you think there are no conservative atheists? Maybe I need to brush up on my 
> > American definition of 'conservative' (I recall Vanek seeming to say that atheists and 
> > liberals were the same thing).
>  
> > Not really.
> 
> LOL at you ‘God’ people. How about looking at your Religious Conservatives? They’re just
using religion, too, to control you.. They yell “Squirrel!” (sic) “Look at Hillary!” “But
Obama!” “Uranium!”
> 
> You really believe all those Republican politicians are religious? That they believe in gods?
“Nixon goes to church Sunday, film at eleven.” Then lies and burglarizes. How many of those
“Good Christian Republicans” have been caught cheating on their wives, convicted of crimes and
jailed, yet still sell you on, “I believe in god and those Democrats don’t?”
> 
> You’re trying to use religion, where it – and they – are actually using you.
> 
> > Progressivism certainly worships government,
> 
> Good little stooge. Puke up some more FOX/GOP talking points. Then notice how the politicians you
‘worship’ keep using our government to further themselves? They use religion to use you. It
obviously works.
> 
> > and religion and God are enemies of totalitarian rulers, so it's not terribly far
> > off to say that Progressives are all atheists.
> 
> Look what you wrote: “Progressives are all atheists.”
> You wing-nuts are all parrots. You Cut & Paste that right from FOX/GOP? 
> 
> > It's harder to stereotype your run of the mill liberal.
> 
> Because we can’t be. But I’ve just stereotyped you. Just as your party has.
> Now tell us what a “Run of the mill” liberal is. 
> 
> > They're more likely to be atheists, but the one thing they are with certainty is mentally ill.
> 
> Say they guy that just made mentally ill statements. Boy, have they ever got you…
> 
> Jerry (run-of-the-mill Atheist) ‘n Vegas

Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful
- Seneca 

	
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> On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 5:36:46 PM UTC-5, urinalcakes wrote:
>> that guns don't kill people, gun toting Texas redneck conservatives kill 
>> people.
>
> He wasn't a conservative...

http://www.logicalfallacies.info/presumption/no-true-scotsman/ 

	
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> > that guns don't kill people, gun toting Texas redneck conservatives kill people.
> 
> He wasn't a conservative. He also had no legal business owning a weapon. He had  been convicted of
a violent felony but the Air Force didn't pass the information on.
> '
> Ban the Air Force.

The Air Force is definitely at fault big time. He was caught trying to smuggle guns onto his base
after threatening his commanding officers. Then he escaped from a mental health facility.

As to the shooter himself he attempted to join the church but was disliked by the pastor. Then he
became a proselytizer of atheism online. He had similarities to 'fffurken', 'dutch', and 'mossingen'. 

	
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> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 12:38:10 PM UTC-8, Will in New Haven wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 5:36:46 PM UTC-5, urinalcakes wrote:
> > > that guns don't kill people, gun toting Texas redneck conservatives kill people.
> > 
> > He wasn't a conservative. He also had no legal business owning a weapon.. He had  been convicted
of a violent felony but the Air Force didn't pass the information on.
> > '
> > Ban the Air Force.
> 
> The Air Force is definitely at fault big time. He was caught trying to smuggle guns onto his base
after threatening his commanding officers. Then he escaped from a mental health facility.
> 
> As to the shooter himself he attempted to join the church but was disliked by the pastor. Then he
became a proselytizer of atheism online. He had similarities to 'fffurken', 'dutch', and 'mossingen'.

The only argument against his being an atheist is that he might have been an _insincere_ atheist.
That is certainly possible but the evidence says "atheist." The argument that he is a conservative
is based on wanting him to be a conservative, as his neighbors do not say he was. 

-- 
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> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 9:42:36 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 12:38:10 PM UTC-8, Will in New Haven wrote:
> > > On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 5:36:46 PM UTC-5, urinalcakes wrote:
> > > > that guns don't kill people, gun toting Texas redneck conservatives kill people.
> > > 
> > > He wasn't a conservative. He also had no legal business owning a weapon. He had  been
convicted of a violent felony but the Air Force didn't pass the information on.
> > > '
> > > Ban the Air Force.
> > 
> > The Air Force is definitely at fault big time. He was caught trying to smuggle guns onto his
base after threatening his commanding officers. Then he escaped from a mental health facility.
> > 
> > As to the shooter himself he attempted to join the church but was disliked by the pastor. Then
he became a proselytizer of atheism online. He had similarities to 'fffurken', 'dutch', and
'mossingen'.
> 
> The only argument against his being an atheist is that he might have been an _insincere_ atheist.
That is certainly possible but the evidence says "atheist." The argument that he is a conservative
is based on wanting him to be a conservative, as his neighbors do not say he was. 
> 
> -- 
> Will in New Haven

Like Rand Paul and the fake news industry doing everything they can to categorize the incident in
his yard as an act of 'left-wing' political terrorism when the neighbor charged with a minor offense
and the other neighbors say it wasn't? 

	
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On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 5:36:46 PM UTC-5, urinalcakes wrote:
> that guns don't kill people, gun toting Texas redneck conservatives kill people.

If you were a government and had hoodwinked its subjects for years, you would put on every fake
shooting event you could sell the herd on. To get the guns away from its citizens. You would be
scared for your life if their was another rebellion.
 If someone wants a gun it can be had for a price,no matter the age or mental state the buyer is
in.So gun laws will never work. Take the UK for instance their or more killings with guns than here
in the states because the subjects have been disarmed. The criminals there are not worried about
getting shot.