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“Shattered; Hillary Clinton’s Doomed Campaign”
By Jonathan Allen & Amie Parnes

This is an excellent book, written by two very experienced campaign insiders and should be mandatory
reading for every political science student in America.  It tells the story of just how incredibly
out of touch the Democrat party had become with the white working class voters that used to be a
loyal part of its base.  And how Hillary Clinton was one of the most flawed Presidential candidates
in American history and spent more than $1.2 billion dollars to lose a Presidential election and
devastate her party.Several things in this book amazed me including the sheer size and scope of the
Clinton political machine. It was truly astounding!  Hillary had dozens of staffers, analysts,
publicists, writers, researchers, consultants, advisors and volunteers.  Not to mention the support
of the DNC, big labor unions, all the major TV networks (except Fox News) billionaire George Soros
and countless Hollywood stars and celebrities.  Her campaign raised and spent more than a $billion
dollars.

In some cases Hillary had up to 20 people writing, reviewing, editing and poll testing every page
and every word of her speeches.  In addition, they relied extensively on sophisticated voter models
and analytics.  So, with all this money and all of these smart, experienced people, how did Hillary
Clinton manage to run such a shockingly inept campaign, get totally blind-sided by Donald Trump and
lose the election?  There were three (3) main reasons:

1.	She was a terrible candidate.  “Awkward, robotic, inarticulate and unlikable.”  And she was
plagued by lies and scandals from Benghazi to the Clinton Foundation to her unsecured e-mails.  The
polls showed that the majority of American voters did not consider her to be “honest, truthful and
trustworthy”.  She also didn’t trust her own staff, which resulted in a great deal of
infighting, friction, anger and manipulation.  Many staffers were afraid to report problems or
provide constructive criticism to Hillary for fear of being fired.  Bill Clinton did offer some
solid campaign advice, but it was mostly ignored. This is one reason why the Hillary machine never
saw Bernie Sanders coming and fatally underestimated President Trump.

2.	Hillary ignored the white working class voters who used to be the heart of the Democrat party
base.  She never set foot in Wisconsin, took Michigan and Pennsylvania for granted and bragged that
“We’re gonna put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of work.”    Hillary Clinton was
ready to be President but she just could not connect with the average American worker.  At one point
she finally admitted that, “I don’t understand what is happening in the country.  I can’t get
my arms around it.”

3.	She never communicated a clear, believable vision of why she should be elected President.  She
believed it was her turn.  She believed she was entitled to it as a female candidate.  She demonized
Trump relentlessly.  And she and her staff believed, even going into election night, that she was
guaranteed a victory and would “march to an inevitable coronation”.  Her staff was working on
multiple versions of her acceptance speech while her concession speech was in a drawer collecting
dust.

The last two chapters describing Hillary’s election night collapse, her telephone calls with Obama
and John Podesta’s lame, last minute speech to Hillary’s devastated supporters, was worth the
price of the book!  

But the bottom-line is this.  Hillary Clinton, the DNC and most Democrat politicians still refuse to
take any personal responsibility for this epic loss.  They blame the FBI, KGB and the KKK.  They
blame whites, racism, misogyny, homophobes, Islamophobes, Evangelicals and climate change deniers. 
They blame President Trump and his wife and children.  The only people they don’t blame are
Hillary Clinton and themselves.

Irish Mike

Obama’s legacy is President Trump 

	
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On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 12:34:50 PM UTC-5, Dutch wrote:
> irish ranger.  wrote:
> >
> >
> > “Shattered; Hillary Clinton’s Doomed Campaign”
> > By Jonathan Allen & Amie Parnes
> >
> > This is an excellent book, written by two very experienced campaign insiders and should be
mandatory reading for every political science student in America.  It tells the story of just how
incredibly out of touch the Democrat party had become with the white working class voters that used
to be a loyal part of its base.  And how Hillary Clinton was one of the most flawed Presidential
candidates in American history and spent more than $1.2 billion dollars to lose a Presidential
election and devastate her party.Several things in this book amazed me including the sheer size and
scope of the Clinton political machine. It was truly astounding!  Hillary had dozens of staffers,
analysts, publicists, writers, researchers, consultants, advisors and volunteers.  Not to mention
the support of the DNC, big labor unions, all the major TV networks (except Fox News) billionaire
George Soros and countless Hollywood stars and celebrities.  Her campaign raised and spent more than
a $billion dollars.
> >
> > In some cases Hillary had up to 20 people writing, reviewing, editing and poll testing every
page and every word of her speeches.  In addition, they relied extensively on sophisticated voter
models and analytics.  So, with all this money and all of these smart, experienced people, how did
Hillary Clinton manage to run such a shockingly inept campaign, get totally blind-sided by Donald
Trump and lose the election?  There were three (3) main reasons:
> >
> > 1.	She was a terrible candidate.  “Awkward, robotic, inarticulate and unlikable.”  And she
was plagued by lies and scandals from Benghazi to the Clinton Foundation to her unsecured e-mails. 
The polls showed that the majority of American voters did not consider her to be “honest, truthful
and trustworthy”.  She also didn’t trust her own staff, which resulted in a great deal of
infighting, friction, anger and manipulation.  Many staffers were afraid to report problems or
provide constructive criticism to Hillary for fear of being fired.  Bill Clinton did offer some
solid campaign advice, but it was mostly ignored. This is one reason why the Hillary machine never
saw Bernie Sanders coming and fatally underestimated President Trump.
> >
> > 2.	Hillary ignored the white working class voters who used to be the heart of the Democrat party
base.  She never set foot in Wisconsin, took Michigan and Pennsylvania for granted and bragged that
“We’re gonna put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of work.”    Hillary Clinton was
ready to be President but she just could not connect with the average American worker.  At one point
she finally admitted that, “I don’t understand what is happening in the country.  I can’t get
my arms around it.”
> >
> > 3.	She never communicated a clear, believable vision of why she should be elected President. 
She believed it was her turn.  She believed she was entitled to it as a female candidate.  She
demonized Trump relentlessly.  And she and her staff believed, even going into election night, that
she was guaranteed a victory and would “march to an inevitable coronation”.  Her staff was
working on multiple versions of her acceptance speech while her concession speech was in a drawer
collecting dust.
> >
> > The last two chapters describing Hillary’s election night collapse, her telephone calls with
Obama and John Podesta’s lame, last minute speech to Hillary’s devastated supporters, was worth
the price of the book!
> 
> All of that is quite believable.
> 
> > But the bottom-line is this.  Hillary Clinton, the DNC and most Democrat politicians still
refuse to take any personal responsibility for this epic loss.  They blame the FBI, KGB and the KKK.
 They blame whites, racism, misogyny, homophobes, Islamophobes, Evangelicals and climate change
deniers.  They blame President Trump and his wife and children.  The only people they don’t blame
are Hillary Clinton and themselves.
> 
> That isn't believable. News flash, just because Hillary was a flawed 
> candidate and made a lot of mistakes does NOT mean the Trump campaign 
> didn't enlist the help of Russia during the campaign. The more time goes 
> by the more it becomes clear just how deeply Russian intelligence and 
> the Trump campaign were in cahoots.
> 
> The people who are in denial are the Trump supporters who continue to 
> cry "hoax" over the Russia investigation. Why else would they still be 
> talking about Hillary?

The real Russian collusion was with the Clintons.  Here are 145 million examples:

"The FBI has gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in
bribery, kickbacks, extortion, and money laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin’s atomic
energy business inside the United States,” The Hill’s John Solomon and Alison Spann report. They
add that an eyewitness, with corroborating documents, indicates that, starting in 2009, “Russian
nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President
Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on
a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow.” 

 While Hillary weighed this deal, Bill scored $500,000 for his address that June 29 to Renaissance
Capital, a Kremlin-tied bank that endorsed Rosatom’s move. Before, during, and after CFIUS’s
deliberations, nine Uranium One investors gave the Clinton Foundation some $145 million.  Even
worse, despite lacking an export license, Uranium One reportedly shipped uranium out of America.
Destination: Unknown. " 

Peter Schweizer, who first uncovered Uranium One in "Clinton Cash", his best-seller on America’s
most powerful crime family said there were witnesses who were ready to come forward but they were
blocked 
by the Obama/Clinton administration.   

Hopefully, President Trump's DOJ will finally step in, allow witnesses to come forward and do a full
investigation of this massive criminal bribery and corruption involving the  Clinton Foundation. 

Irish Mike 

"History has repeatedly taught us that the laws that govern we common folk to not apply 
to the Clintons." 

	
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WHOA! Asshole: AGAIN you failed to answer:

> > > What are you doing back here without answering all those embarrassing questions you dodge? 
> > > What are you doing back here without posting those lists you promised? 
> > > 
> > > Now run away, like you always do, you fucking coward.

What’s the matter, you fucking coward?

> The real Russian collusion was with the Clintons.

There wasn’t and you can’t show where they was.

> Here are 145 million examples:

*** NO SAMPLES NOTED ***

>  While Hillary weighed this deal

Failure to show. Phony charges laughed at.. 

> Peter Schweizer, who first uncovered Uranium One in "Clinton Cash", his 
> best-seller on America’s most powerful crime family said there were 
> witnesses who were ready to come forward but they were blocked 
> by the Obama/Clinton administration. 

Another cup of cool aid you drink.. Show us, or run and hide again.

> Hopefully, President Trump's DOJ will finally step in

WHA! Ha! Ha! At your “EXAMPLE.”

> "History has repeatedly taught us that the laws that govern we common folk to not apply 
> to the Clintons."

Then you should have no trouble show us.

YET ANOTHER EXAPLE OF LISTS YOU DON’T HAVE AND CAN’T SHOW.

Now run and hide and Cut & Paste some for FOX bullshit.

Jerry (still kicking your ignorant ass) ‘n Vegas


> stupid ignorant fucked up Irish Mick 

	
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>>> But the bottom-line is this.  Hillary Clinton, the DNC and most Democrat politicians still
refuse to take any personal responsibility for this epic loss.  They blame the FBI, KGB and the KKK.
 They blame whites, racism, misogyny, homophobes, Islamophobes, Evangelicals and climate change
deniers.  They blame President Trump and his wife and children.  The only people they don’t blame
are Hillary Clinton and themselves.
>> >
>> > That isn't believable. News flash, just because Hillary was a flawed
>> > candidate and made a lot of mistakes does NOT mean the Trump campaign
>> > didn't enlist the help of Russia during the campaign. The more time goes
>> > by the more it becomes clear just how deeply Russian intelligence and
>> > the Trump campaign were in cahoots.
>> >
>> > The people who are in denial are the Trump supporters who continue to
>> > cry "hoax" over the Russia investigation. Why else would they still be
>> > talking about Hillary?
> The real Russian collusion was with the Clintons.  Here are 145 million examples:

The government should definitely look into that, after they're done with 
Trump. He's the top priority right now, since he's the president. You 
wouldn't want a criminal or a traitor for president would you? 

	
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<irishranger317@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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<...>

> "The FBI has gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry 
> officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion, and money 
> laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin’s atomic energy business inside 
> the United States,”

You really love your lies, don'tcha?

Watch Joy Reid fucking DESTROY that horseshit in two and a half minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP04_TVbW8k 

	
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><irishranger317@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> 
> <...>
> 
> > "The FBI has gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry 
> > officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion, and money 
> > laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin’s atomic energy business inside 
> > the United States,”
> 
> You really love your lies, don'tcha?
> 
> Watch Joy Reid fucking DESTROY that horseshit in two and a half minutes.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP04_TVbW8k

Cripes, Mike- that black woman just explained why you're dumber than dirt. You gobble up this really
stupid shit from Fox News. Please regurgitate it somewhere else. Your backyard, for instance, which
I'm sure is very large and very expensive. Just not as large and expensive as the backyards of the
people who will enjoy a tax cut paid for by your tax increase. LOL. Dum-m-m-y! 

	
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> “Shattered; Hillary Clinton’s Doomed Campaign”
> By Jonathan Allen & Amie Parnes
 
> This is an excellent book,…

Like you actually read it.

What are you doing back here without answering all those embarrassing questions you dodge?
What are you doing back here without posting those lists you promised?

Now run away, like you always do, you fucking coward. 

	
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> 
> Now run away, like you always do, you fucking coward.


Read Donna Brazile!  You little poopy pants.  But don't run away, we need you to laugh at ('n Vegas). 

	
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> > 
> > Now run away, like you always do, you fucking coward.
> 
> 
> Read Donna Brazile!

Why? You didn't. You're simply parroting FOX and refusing to admit you were drinking their cool aid.

> But don't run away, we need you to laugh at ('n Vegas).

Ain't running. And all the laughter's @ you. 

	
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> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 7:37:29 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 9:57:21 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
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> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Now run away, like you always do, you fucking coward.
> > 
> > 
> > Read Donna Brazile!
> 
> Why? You didn't. You're simply parroting FOX and refusing to admit you were drinking their cool
aid.


No, actually CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, NBC and many others did a good job covering the
Brazile revelations.   If I recall correctly you defended Brazile during the email debacle.  What
changed? 

	
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On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 12:19:30 PM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 7:09:14 AM UTC-6, VegasJerry wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 7:37:29 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 9:57:21 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Now run away, like you always do, you fucking coward.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Read Donna Brazile!
> > 
> > Why? You didn't. You're simply parroting FOX and refusing to admit you were drinking their cool
aid.
 
> No, actually CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, NBC and many others did a good job
> covering the Brazile revelations.   If I recall correctly you defended Brazile during the email 
> debacle.  What changed?

Nothing; I just saw her say; on MSNBC’s Morning Joe; about the Politico article, 1:36 into the
show: “If you read the excerpts without the context, I leaned, I learnt’t the hard way, because
I had ta’ go out there on Twitter and say, ‘I did not say the process was rigged.’ I went out
to find OUT if it was rigged.”

Willy Guise: “But then you said you came back and called Bernie and said you, ‘found your
PROOF.’”

Brazile: “Cancer; that there was cancer. I didn’t say it was rigged.”

BINGO!

Jerry (glad to have straighten you out) 'n Vegas 

	
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On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 2:14:24 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 12:19:30 PM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 7:09:14 AM UTC-6, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 7:37:29 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 9:57:21 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Now run away, like you always do, you fucking coward.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Read Donna Brazile!
> > > 
> > > Why? You didn't. You're simply parroting FOX and refusing to admit you were drinking their
cool aid.
>  
> > No, actually CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, NBC and many others did a good job
> > covering the Brazile revelations.   If I recall correctly you defended Brazile during the email 
> > debacle.  What changed?
> 
> Nothing; I just saw her say; on MSNBC’s Morning Joe; about the Politico article, 1:36 into the
show: “If you read the excerpts without the context, I leaned, I learnt’t the hard way, because
I had ta’ go out there on Twitter and say, ‘I did not say the process was rigged.’ I went out
to find OUT if it was rigged.”
> 
> Willy Guise: “But then you said you came back and called Bernie and said you, ‘found your
PROOF.’”
> 
> Brazile: “Cancer; that there was cancer. I didn’t say it was rigged.”
> 
> BINGO!
> 
> Jerry (glad to have straighten you out) 'n Vegas



Hey Jerome, WHAT HAPPENED TO SETH RICH?

Knew you couldn't/wouldn't answer. 

	
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On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 9:55:41 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 2:14:24 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 12:19:30 PM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 7:09:14 AM UTC-6, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 7:37:29 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 9:57:21 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Now run away, like you always do, you fucking coward.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Read Donna Brazile!
> > > > 
> > > > Why? You didn't. You're simply parroting FOX and refusing to admit you were drinking their
cool aid.
> >  
> > > No, actually CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, NBC and many others did a good job
> > > covering the Brazile revelations.   If I recall correctly you defended Brazile during the
email 
> > > debacle.  What changed?
> > 
> > Nothing; I just saw her say; on MSNBC’s Morning Joe; about the Politico article, 1:36 into the
show: “If you read the excerpts without the context, I leaned, I learnt’t the hard way, because
I had ta’ go out there on Twitter and say, ‘I did not say the process was rigged.’ I went out
to find OUT if it was rigged.”
> > 
> > Willy Guise: “But then you said you came back and called Bernie and said you, ‘found your
PROOF.’”
> > 
> > Brazile: “Cancer; that there was cancer. I didn’t say it was rigged.”
> > 
> > BINGO!
> > 
> > Jerry (glad to have straighten you out) 'n Vegas
> 
> 
> 
> Hey Jerome, WHAT HAPPENED TO SETH RICH?
> 
> Knew you couldn't/wouldn't answer.

Hey, PapInFart, what happened to you admitting you were wrong and that Brazile admitted it wasn't
fixed? 

	
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On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 4:53:42 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 9:55:41 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 2:14:24 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 12:19:30 PM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 7:09:14 AM UTC-6, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 7:37:29 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 9:57:21 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Now run away, like you always do, you fucking coward.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Read Donna Brazile!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Why? You didn't. You're simply parroting FOX and refusing to admit you were drinking their
cool aid.
> > >  
> > > > No, actually CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, NBC and many others did a good job
> > > > covering the Brazile revelations.   If I recall correctly you defended Brazile during the
email 
> > > > debacle.  What changed?
> > > 
> > > Nothing; I just saw her say; on MSNBC’s Morning Joe; about the Politico article, 1:36 into
the show: “If you read the excerpts without the context, I leaned, I learnt’t the hard way,
because I had ta’ go out there on Twitter and say, ‘I did not say the process was rigged.’ I
went out to find OUT if it was rigged.”
> > > 
> > > Willy Guise: “But then you said you came back and called Bernie and said you, ‘found your
PROOF.’”
> > > 
> > > Brazile: “Cancer; that there was cancer. I didn’t say it was rigged.”
> > > 
> > > BINGO!
> > > 
> > > Jerry (glad to have straighten you out) 'n Vegas
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hey Jerome, WHAT HAPPENED TO SETH RICH?
> > 
> > Knew you couldn't/wouldn't answer.
> 
> Hey, PapInFart, what happened to you admitting you were wrong and that Brazile admitted it wasn't
fixed?



What was I wrong about?  The only thing I have said is that I knew you couldn't answer what happened
to Seth Rich, and I was dead on.

knew ya couldn't

knew ya couldn't

knew ya couldn't 

	
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On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 7:50:41 AM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 4:53:42 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 9:55:41 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 2:14:24 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 12:19:30 PM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 7:09:14 AM UTC-6, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 7:37:29 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 9:57:21 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Now run away, like you always do, you fucking coward.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Read Donna Brazile!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Why? You didn't. You're simply parroting FOX and refusing to admit you were drinking
their cool aid.
> > > >  
> > > > > No, actually CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, NBC and many others did a good job
> > > > > covering the Brazile revelations.   If I recall correctly you defended Brazile during the
email 
> > > > > debacle.  What changed?
> > > > 
> > > > Nothing; I just saw her say; on MSNBC’s Morning Joe; about the Politico article, 1:36 into
the show: “If you read the excerpts without the context, I leaned, I learnt’t the hard way,
because I had ta’ go out there on Twitter and say, ‘I did not say the process was rigged.’ I
went out to find OUT if it was rigged.”
> > > > 
> > > > Willy Guise: “But then you said you came back and called Bernie and said you, ‘found
your PROOF.’”
> > > > 
> > > > Brazile: “Cancer; that there was cancer. I didn’t say it was rigged.”
> > > > 
> > > > BINGO!
> > > > 
> > > > Jerry (glad to have straighten you out) 'n Vegas
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hey Jerome, WHAT HAPPENED TO SETH RICH?
> > > 
> > > Knew you couldn't/wouldn't answer.
> > 
> > Hey, PapInFart, what happened to you admitting you were wrong and that Brazile admitted it
wasn't fixed?
> 
 
> What was I wrong about?

Yea, like that, "SQURELL!" 


> The only thing I have said is that I knew you couldn't answer
> what happened to Seth Rich, and I was dead on.

You think I'm supposed to know what happened to someone named Seth Rich?
You're 'dead stupid.'

Jerry





> 
> knew ya couldn't
> 
> knew ya couldn't
> 
> knew ya couldn't 

	
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On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 11:29:25 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 7:50:41 AM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 4:53:42 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 9:55:41 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 2:14:24 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 12:19:30 PM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 7:09:14 AM UTC-6, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 7:37:29 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 9:57:21 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Now run away, like you always do, you fucking coward.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Read Donna Brazile!
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Why? You didn't. You're simply parroting FOX and refusing to admit you were drinking
their cool aid.
> > > > >  
> > > > > > No, actually CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, NBC and many others did a good job
> > > > > > covering the Brazile revelations.   If I recall correctly you defended Brazile during
the email 
> > > > > > debacle.  What changed?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Nothing; I just saw her say; on MSNBC’s Morning Joe; about the Politico article, 1:36
into the show: “If you read the excerpts without the context, I leaned, I learnt’t the hard way,
because I had ta’ go out there on Twitter and say, ‘I did not say the process was rigged.’ I
went out to find OUT if it was rigged.”
> > > > > 
> > > > > Willy Guise: “But then you said you came back and called Bernie and said you, ‘found
your PROOF.’”
> > > > > 
> > > > > Brazile: “Cancer; that there was cancer. I didn’t say it was rigged.”
> > > > > 
> > > > > BINGO!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Jerry (glad to have straighten you out) 'n Vegas
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hey Jerome, WHAT HAPPENED TO SETH RICH?
> > > > 
> > > > Knew you couldn't/wouldn't answer.
> > > 
> > > Hey, PapInFart, what happened to you admitting you were wrong and that Brazile admitted it
wasn't fixed?
> > 
>  
> > What was I wrong about?
> 
> Yea, like that, "SQURELL!" 
> 
> 
> > The only thing I have said is that I knew you couldn't answer
> > what happened to Seth Rich, and I was dead on.
> 
> You think I'm supposed to know what happened to someone named Seth Rich?
> You're 'dead stupid.'
> 
> Jerry
> 


I get the impression you have never even heard of Seth Rich.  And you call ME stupid? 

	
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> On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 11:29:25 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 7:50:41 AM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> > > On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 4:53:42 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 9:55:41 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 2:14:24 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 12:19:30 PM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
> > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 7:09:14 AM UTC-6, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 7:37:29 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 9:57:21 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Now run away, like you always do, you fucking coward.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Read Donna Brazile!
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Why? You didn't. You're simply parroting FOX and refusing to admit you were drinking
their cool aid.
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > > No, actually CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, NBC and many others did a good job
> > > > > > > covering the Brazile revelations.   If I recall correctly you defended Brazile during
the email 
> > > > > > > debacle.  What changed?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Nothing; I just saw her say; on MSNBC’s Morning Joe; about the Politico article, 1:36
into the show: “If you read the excerpts without the context, I leaned, I learnt’t the hard way,
because I had ta’ go out there on Twitter and say, ‘I did not say the process was rigged.’ I
went out to find OUT if it was rigged.”
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Willy Guise: “But then you said you came back and called Bernie and said you, ‘found
your PROOF.’”
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Brazile: “Cancer; that there was cancer. I didn’t say it was rigged.”
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > BINGO!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Jerry (glad to have straighten you out) 'n Vegas
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hey Jerome, WHAT HAPPENED TO SETH RICH?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Knew you couldn't/wouldn't answer.
> > > > 
> > > > Hey, PapInFart, what happened to you admitting you were wrong and that Brazile admitted it
wasn't fixed?
> > > 
> >  
> > > What was I wrong about?
> > 
> > Yea, like that, "SQURELL!" 
> > 
> > 
> > > The only thing I have said is that I knew you couldn't answer
> > > what happened to Seth Rich, and I was dead on.
> > 
> > You think I'm supposed to know what happened to someone named Seth Rich?
> > You're 'dead stupid.'
> > 
> > Jerry
> > 
> 
> 
> I get the impression you have never even heard of Seth Rich.  And you call ME stupid?

Yes, I was just trying to be polite about it. 

	
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> On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 11:29:25 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 7:50:41 AM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 4:53:42 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 9:55:41 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 2:14:24 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 12:19:30 PM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 7:09:14 AM UTC-6, VegasJerry wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 7:37:29 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 9:57:21 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now run away, like you always do, you fucking coward.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Read Donna Brazile!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why? You didn't. You're simply parroting FOX and refusing to admit you were drinking their
cool aid.
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>> No, actually CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, NBC and many others did a good job
>>>>>>> covering the Brazile revelations.   If I recall correctly you defended Brazile during the
email
>>>>>>> debacle.  What changed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing; I just saw her say; on MSNBC’s Morning Joe; about the Politico article, 1:36 into
the show: “If you read the excerpts without the context, I leaned, I learnt’t the hard way,
because I had ta’ go out there on Twitter and say, ‘I did not say the process was rigged.’ I
went out to find OUT if it was rigged.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Willy Guise: “But then you said you came back and called Bernie and said you, ‘found your
PROOF.’”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brazile: “Cancer; that there was cancer. I didn’t say it was rigged.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BINGO!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jerry (glad to have straighten you out) 'n Vegas
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Jerome, WHAT HAPPENED TO SETH RICH?
>>>>>
>>>>> Knew you couldn't/wouldn't answer.
>>>>
>>>> Hey, PapInFart, what happened to you admitting you were wrong and that Brazile admitted it
wasn't fixed?
>>>
>>   
>>> What was I wrong about?
>>
>> Yea, like that, "SQURELL!"
>>
>>
>>> The only thing I have said is that I knew you couldn't answer
>>> what happened to Seth Rich, and I was dead on.
>>
>> You think I'm supposed to know what happened to someone named Seth Rich?
>> You're 'dead stupid.'
>>
>> Jerry
>>
> 
> 
> I get the impression you have never even heard of Seth Rich.  And you call ME stupid?

Donna was worried.  Her book is dedicated to Seth Rich.  Is she correct 
to be afraid for her life?  Was Seth Rich the source for wikileaks?

Did anyone from wikileaks mention the murder of Seth Rich?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9b_qm4xSu0



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> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 12:19:30 PM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 7:09:14 AM UTC-6, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 7:37:29 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 9:57:21 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Now run away, like you always do, you fucking coward.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Read Donna Brazile!
> > > 
> > > Why? You didn't. You're simply parroting FOX and refusing to admit you were drinking their
cool aid.
>  
> > No, actually CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, NBC and many others did a good job
> > covering the Brazile revelations.   If I recall correctly you defended Brazile during the email 
> > debacle.  What changed?
> 
> Nothing; I just saw her say; on MSNBC’s Morning Joe; about the Politico article, 1:36 into the
show: “If you read the excerpts without the context, I leaned, I learnt’t the hard way, because
I had ta’ go out there on Twitter and say, ‘I did not say the process was rigged.’ I went out
to find OUT if it was rigged.”
> 
> Willy Guise: “But then you said you came back and called Bernie and said you, ‘found your
PROOF.’”
> 
> Brazile: “Cancer; that there was cancer. I didn’t say it was rigged.”
> 
> BINGO!
> 
> Jerry (glad to have straighten you out) 'n Vegas

She said it was not criminal but unethical.  If this woman thinks something is unethical (as in her
getting fired for giving HRC debate questions and then lying about it) then it must be pretty bad. 

	
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> > > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 7:09:14 AM UTC-6, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 7:37:29 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 9:57:21 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Now run away, like you always do, you fucking coward.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Read Donna Brazile!
> > > > 
> > > > Why? You didn't. You're simply parroting FOX and refusing to admit you were drinking their
cool aid.
> >  
> > > No, actually CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, NBC and many others did a good job
> > > covering the Brazile revelations.   If I recall correctly you defended Brazile during the
email 
> > > debacle.  What changed?
> > 
> > Nothing; I just saw her say; on MSNBC’s Morning Joe; about the Politico article, 1:36 into the
show: “If you read the excerpts without the context, I leaned, I learnt’t the hard way, because
I had ta’ go out there on Twitter and say, ‘I did not say the process was rigged.’ I went out
to find OUT if it was rigged.”
> > 
> > Willy Guise: “But then you said you came back and called Bernie and said you, ‘found your
PROOF.’”
> > 
> > Brazile: “Cancer; that there was cancer. I didn’t say it was rigged.”
> > 
> > BINGO!
> > 
> > Jerry (glad to have straighten you out) 'n Vegas
 
> She said it was not criminal but unethical.

Really? A politician did something another politician thought was unethical..
Alert the media...

Jerry


  If this woman thinks something is unethical (as in her getting fired for giving HRC debate
questions and then lying about it) then it must be pretty bad. 

	
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On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 12:19:30 PM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 7:09:14 AM UTC-6, VegasJerry wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 7:37:29 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 9:57:21 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Now run away, like you always do, you fucking coward.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Read Donna Brazile!
> > 
> > Why? You didn't. You're simply parroting FOX and refusing to admit you were drinking their cool
aid.
> 
> 
> No, actually CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, NBC and many others did a good job covering the
Brazile revelations.   If I recall correctly you defended Brazile during the email debacle.  What
changed?



Thank you, BS in Austin.  And trust me, NOTHING has changed with Jerry. 

	
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On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 4:27:57 AM UTC-8, irishra...@gmail.com wrote:
> “Shattered; Hillary Clinton’s Doomed Campaign”
> By Jonathan Allen & Amie Parnes
> 
> This is an excellent book, written by two very experienced campaign insiders and should be
mandatory reading for every political science student in America.  It tells the story of just how
incredibly out of touch the Democrat party had become with the white working class voters that used
to be a loyal part of its base.  And how Hillary Clinton was one of the most flawed Presidential
candidates in American history and spent more than $1.2 billion dollars to lose a Presidential
election and devastate her party.Several things in this book amazed me including the sheer size and
scope of the Clinton political machine. It was truly astounding!  Hillary had dozens of staffers,
analysts, publicists, writers, researchers, consultants, advisors and volunteers.  Not to mention
the support of the DNC, big labor unions, all the major TV networks (except Fox News) billionaire
George Soros and countless Hollywood stars and celebrities.  Her campaign raised and spent more than
a $billion dollars.
> 
> In some cases Hillary had up to 20 people writing, reviewing, editing and poll testing every page
and every word of her speeches.  In addition, they relied extensively on sophisticated voter models
and analytics.  So, with all this money and all of these smart, experienced people, how did Hillary
Clinton manage to run such a shockingly inept campaign, get totally blind-sided by Donald Trump and
lose the election?  There were three (3) main reasons:
> 
> 1.	She was a terrible candidate.  “Awkward, robotic, inarticulate and unlikable.”  And she was
plagued by lies and scandals from Benghazi to the Clinton Foundation to her unsecured e-mails.  The
polls showed that the majority of American voters did not consider her to be “honest, truthful and
trustworthy”.  She also didn’t trust her own staff, which resulted in a great deal of
infighting, friction, anger and manipulation.  Many staffers were afraid to report problems or
provide constructive criticism to Hillary for fear of being fired.  Bill Clinton did offer some
solid campaign advice, but it was mostly ignored. This is one reason why the Hillary machine never
saw Bernie Sanders coming and fatally underestimated President Trump.
> 
> 2.	Hillary ignored the white working class voters who used to be the heart of the Democrat party
base.  She never set foot in Wisconsin, took Michigan and Pennsylvania for granted and bragged that
“We’re gonna put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of work.”    Hillary Clinton was
ready to be President but she just could not connect with the average American worker.  At one point
she finally admitted that, “I don’t understand what is happening in the country.  I can’t get
my arms around it.”
> 
> 3.	She never communicated a clear, believable vision of why she should be elected President.  She
believed it was her turn.  She believed she was entitled to it as a female candidate.  She demonized
Trump relentlessly.  And she and her staff believed, even going into election night, that she was
guaranteed a victory and would “march to an inevitable coronation”.  Her staff was working on
multiple versions of her acceptance speech while her concession speech was in a drawer collecting
dust.
> 
> The last two chapters describing Hillary’s election night collapse, her telephone calls with
Obama and John Podesta’s lame, last minute speech to Hillary’s devastated supporters, was worth
the price of the book!  
> 
> But the bottom-line is this.  Hillary Clinton, the DNC and most Democrat politicians still refuse
to take any personal responsibility for this epic loss.  They blame the FBI, KGB and the KKK.  They
blame whites, racism, misogyny, homophobes, Islamophobes, Evangelicals and climate change deniers. 
They blame President Trump and his wife and children.  The only people they don’t blame are
Hillary Clinton and themselves.
> 
> Irish Mike
> 
> Obama’s legacy is President Trump

An 'epic loss', then, is when a candidate gets almost 3 million more votes?

And how is it possible to 'demonize' Crooked Donald? 

	
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On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 12:01:20 PM UTC-6, risky biz wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 4:27:57 AM UTC-8, irishra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > “Shattered; Hillary Clinton’s Doomed Campaign”
> > By Jonathan Allen & Amie Parnes
> > 
> > This is an excellent book, written by two very experienced campaign insiders and should be
mandatory reading for every political science student in America.  It tells the story of just how
incredibly out of touch the Democrat party had become with the white working class voters that used
to be a loyal part of its base.  And how Hillary Clinton was one of the most flawed Presidential
candidates in American history and spent more than $1.2 billion dollars to lose a Presidential
election and devastate her party.Several things in this book amazed me including the sheer size and
scope of the Clinton political machine. It was truly astounding!  Hillary had dozens of staffers,
analysts, publicists, writers, researchers, consultants, advisors and volunteers.  Not to mention
the support of the DNC, big labor unions, all the major TV networks (except Fox News) billionaire
George Soros and countless Hollywood stars and celebrities.  Her campaign raised and spent more than
a $billion dollars.
> > 
> > In some cases Hillary had up to 20 people writing, reviewing, editing and poll testing every
page and every word of her speeches.  In addition, they relied extensively on sophisticated voter
models and analytics.  So, with all this money and all of these smart, experienced people, how did
Hillary Clinton manage to run such a shockingly inept campaign, get totally blind-sided by Donald
Trump and lose the election?  There were three (3) main reasons:
> > 
> > 1.	She was a terrible candidate.  “Awkward, robotic, inarticulate and unlikable.”  And she
was plagued by lies and scandals from Benghazi to the Clinton Foundation to her unsecured e-mails. 
The polls showed that the majority of American voters did not consider her to be “honest, truthful
and trustworthy”.  She also didn’t trust her own staff, which resulted in a great deal of
infighting, friction, anger and manipulation.  Many staffers were afraid to report problems or
provide constructive criticism to Hillary for fear of being fired.  Bill Clinton did offer some
solid campaign advice, but it was mostly ignored. This is one reason why the Hillary machine never
saw Bernie Sanders coming and fatally underestimated President Trump.
> > 
> > 2.	Hillary ignored the white working class voters who used to be the heart of the Democrat party
base.  She never set foot in Wisconsin, took Michigan and Pennsylvania for granted and bragged that
“We’re gonna put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of work.”    Hillary Clinton was
ready to be President but she just could not connect with the average American worker.  At one point
she finally admitted that, “I don’t understand what is happening in the country.  I can’t get
my arms around it.”
> > 
> > 3.	She never communicated a clear, believable vision of why she should be elected President. 
She believed it was her turn.  She believed she was entitled to it as a female candidate.  She
demonized Trump relentlessly.  And she and her staff believed, even going into election night, that
she was guaranteed a victory and would “march to an inevitable coronation”.  Her staff was
working on multiple versions of her acceptance speech while her concession speech was in a drawer
collecting dust.
> > 
> > The last two chapters describing Hillary’s election night collapse, her telephone calls with
Obama and John Podesta’s lame, last minute speech to Hillary’s devastated supporters, was worth
the price of the book!  
> > 
> > But the bottom-line is this.  Hillary Clinton, the DNC and most Democrat politicians still
refuse to take any personal responsibility for this epic loss.  They blame the FBI, KGB and the KKK.
 They blame whites, racism, misogyny, homophobes, Islamophobes, Evangelicals and climate change
deniers.  They blame President Trump and his wife and children.  The only people they don’t blame
are Hillary Clinton and themselves.
> > 
> > Irish Mike
> > 
> > Obama’s legacy is President Trump
> 
> An 'epic loss', then, is when a candidate gets almost 3 million more votes?

Come on Risky, you're smart enough to know it's not how many total votes you get but where they are.
Hillary could have gotten 3 million more votes in Ca or Trump could have gotten 3 million more in TX
and it would have changed squat.  Now some states mattered, you know like Michigan and Wisconsin?  
Save the one weird electoral vote in Maine, she might have gone over the top had she not totally
ignored them.  We will never know.



> And how is it possible to 'demonize' Crooked Donald?
 

And yes, losing to an orange monkey is an EPIC loss. 

	
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> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 12:01:20 PM UTC-6, risky biz wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 4:27:57 AM UTC-8, irishra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > “Shattered; Hillary Clinton’s Doomed Campaign”
> > > By Jonathan Allen & Amie Parnes
> > > 
> > > This is an excellent book, written by two very experienced campaign insiders and should be
mandatory reading for every political science student in America.  It tells the story of just how
incredibly out of touch the Democrat party had become with the white working class voters that used
to be a loyal part of its base.  And how Hillary Clinton was one of the most flawed Presidential
candidates in American history and spent more than $1.2 billion dollars to lose a Presidential
election and devastate her party.Several things in this book amazed me including the sheer size and
scope of the Clinton political machine. It was truly astounding!  Hillary had dozens of staffers,
analysts, publicists, writers, researchers, consultants, advisors and volunteers.  Not to mention
the support of the DNC, big labor unions, all the major TV networks (except Fox News) billionaire
George Soros and countless Hollywood stars and celebrities.  Her campaign raised and spent more than
a $billion dollars.
> > > 
> > > In some cases Hillary had up to 20 people writing, reviewing, editing and poll testing every
page and every word of her speeches.  In addition, they relied extensively on sophisticated voter
models and analytics.  So, with all this money and all of these smart, experienced people, how did
Hillary Clinton manage to run such a shockingly inept campaign, get totally blind-sided by Donald
Trump and lose the election?  There were three (3) main reasons:
> > > 
> > > 1.	She was a terrible candidate.  “Awkward, robotic, inarticulate and unlikable.”  And she
was plagued by lies and scandals from Benghazi to the Clinton Foundation to her unsecured e-mails. 
The polls showed that the majority of American voters did not consider her to be “honest, truthful
and trustworthy”.  She also didn’t trust her own staff, which resulted in a great deal of
infighting, friction, anger and manipulation.  Many staffers were afraid to report problems or
provide constructive criticism to Hillary for fear of being fired.  Bill Clinton did offer some
solid campaign advice, but it was mostly ignored. This is one reason why the Hillary machine never
saw Bernie Sanders coming and fatally underestimated President Trump.
> > > 
> > > 2.	Hillary ignored the white working class voters who used to be the heart of the Democrat
party base.  She never set foot in Wisconsin, took Michigan and Pennsylvania for granted and bragged
that “We’re gonna put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of work.”    Hillary Clinton
was ready to be President but she just could not connect with the average American worker.  At one
point she finally admitted that, “I don’t understand what is happening in the country.  I
can’t get my arms around it.”
> > > 
> > > 3.	She never communicated a clear, believable vision of why she should be elected President. 
She believed it was her turn.  She believed she was entitled to it as a female candidate.  She
demonized Trump relentlessly.  And she and her staff believed, even going into election night, that
she was guaranteed a victory and would “march to an inevitable coronation”.  Her staff was
working on multiple versions of her acceptance speech while her concession speech was in a drawer
collecting dust.
> > > 
> > > The last two chapters describing Hillary’s election night collapse, her telephone calls with
Obama and John Podesta’s lame, last minute speech to Hillary’s devastated supporters, was worth
the price of the book!  
> > > 
> > > But the bottom-line is this.  Hillary Clinton, the DNC and most Democrat politicians still
refuse to take any personal responsibility for this epic loss.  They blame the FBI, KGB and the KKK.
 They blame whites, racism, misogyny, homophobes, Islamophobes, Evangelicals and climate change
deniers.  They blame President Trump and his wife and children.  The only people they don’t blame
are Hillary Clinton and themselves.
> > > 
> > > Irish Mike
> > > 
> > > Obama’s legacy is President Trump
> > 
> > An 'epic loss', then, is when a candidate gets almost 3 million more votes?
> 
> Come on Risky, you're smart enough to know it's not how many total votes you get but where they
are. Hillary could have gotten 3 million more votes in Ca or Trump could have gotten 3 million more
in TX and it would have changed squat.  Now some states mattered, you know like Michigan and
Wisconsin?   Save the one weird electoral vote in Maine, she might have gone over the top had she
not totally ignored them.  We will never know.
> 
> 
> 
> > And how is it possible to 'demonize' Crooked Donald?
>  
> 
> And yes, losing to an orange monkey is an EPIC loss.

That's a nice response but not a response to anything I said. 

	
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> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 12:01:20 PM UTC-6, risky biz wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 4:27:57 AM UTC-8, irishra...@gmail.com wrote:

<snip’n shit>

> > > Irish Mike
> > > 
> > > Obama’s legacy is President Trump
> > 
> > An 'epic loss', then, is when a candidate gets almost 3 million more votes?
 
> Come on Risky, you're smart enough to know it's not how many total votes you get but where they
are.

Come on Austin, you're smart enough to know what “epic loss” means.

Jerry ‘n Vegas

> Hillary could have gotten 3 million more votes in Ca or Trump could have gotten 3 million more
> in TX and it would have changed squat.  Now some states mattered, you know like Michigan and
> Wisconsin?   Save the one weird electoral vote in Maine, she might have gone over the top had
> she not totally ignored them.  We will never know.
>
> > And how is it possible to 'demonize' Crooked Donald?
> 
> And yes, losing to an orange monkey is an EPIC loss. 

	
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On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 4:01:22 PM UTC-6, VegasJerry wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 12:17:13 PM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
> > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 12:01:20 PM UTC-6, risky biz wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 4:27:57 AM UTC-8, irishra...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> <snip’n shit>
> 
> > > > Irish Mike
> > > > 
> > > > Obama’s legacy is President Trump
> > > 
> > > An 'epic loss', then, is when a candidate gets almost 3 million more votes?
>  
> > Come on Risky, you're smart enough to know it's not how many total votes you get but where they
are.
> 
> Come on Austin, you're smart enough to know what “epic loss” means.
> 
> Jerry ‘n Vegas
> 
> > Hillary could have gotten 3 million more votes in Ca or Trump could have gotten 3 million more
> > in TX and it would have changed squat.  Now some states mattered, you know like Michigan and
> > Wisconsin?   Save the one weird electoral vote in Maine, she might have gone over the top had
> > she not totally ignored them.  We will never know.
> >
> > > And how is it possible to 'demonize' Crooked Donald?
> > 
> > And yes, losing to an orange monkey is an EPIC loss.

And yes, losing to an orange monkey is an EPIC loss. 

	
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Subject: Re: This is exactly why Hillary lost.
From: risky biz <swingtrader@gmail.com>
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On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 7:46:07 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 4:01:22 PM UTC-6, VegasJerry wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 12:17:13 PM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 12:01:20 PM UTC-6, risky biz wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 4:27:57 AM UTC-8, irishra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > 
> > <snip’n shit>
> > 
> > > > > Irish Mike
> > > > > 
> > > > > Obama’s legacy is President Trump
> > > > 
> > > > An 'epic loss', then, is when a candidate gets almost 3 million more votes?
> >  
> > > Come on Risky, you're smart enough to know it's not how many total votes you get but where
they are.
> > 
> > Come on Austin, you're smart enough to know what “epic loss” means.
> > 
> > Jerry ‘n Vegas
> > 
> > > Hillary could have gotten 3 million more votes in Ca or Trump could have gotten 3 million more
> > > in TX and it would have changed squat.  Now some states mattered, you know like Michigan and
> > > Wisconsin?   Save the one weird electoral vote in Maine, she might have gone over the top had
> > > she not totally ignored them.  We will never know.
> > >
> > > > And how is it possible to 'demonize' Crooked Donald?
> > > 
> > > And yes, losing to an orange monkey is an EPIC loss.
> 
> And yes, losing to an orange monkey is an EPIC loss.

What do you call the losses of the Republican candidates who ran against Barack Obama? Tremendous,
fantastic, gigantic, monumental, epic losses? I don't recall you explaining that at either time. 

	
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Subject: Re: This is exactly why Hillary lost.
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On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 11:30:19 AM UTC-6, risky biz wrote:
> On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 7:46:07 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 4:01:22 PM UTC-6, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 12:17:13 PM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 12:01:20 PM UTC-6, risky biz wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 4:27:57 AM UTC-8, irishra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > 
> > > <snip’n shit>
> > > 
> > > > > > Irish Mike
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Obama’s legacy is President Trump
> > > > > 
> > > > > An 'epic loss', then, is when a candidate gets almost 3 million more votes?
> > >  
> > > > Come on Risky, you're smart enough to know it's not how many total votes you get but where
they are.
> > > 
> > > Come on Austin, you're smart enough to know what “epic loss” means.
> > > 
> > > Jerry ‘n Vegas
> > > 
> > > > Hillary could have gotten 3 million more votes in Ca or Trump could have gotten 3 million
more
> > > > in TX and it would have changed squat.  Now some states mattered, you know like Michigan and
> > > > Wisconsin?   Save the one weird electoral vote in Maine, she might have gone over the top had
> > > > she not totally ignored them.  We will never know.
> > > >
> > > > > And how is it possible to 'demonize' Crooked Donald?
> > > > 
> > > > And yes, losing to an orange monkey is an EPIC loss.
> > 
> > And yes, losing to an orange monkey is an EPIC loss.
> 
> What do you call the losses of the Republican candidates who ran against Barack Obama? Tremendous,
fantastic, gigantic, monumental, epic losses? I don't recall you explaining that at either time.



Since I voted for Obama and in fact made the only straight ticket vote ever I was not surprised,
dismayed or shocked, 

	
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On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 2:22:51 PM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
> On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 11:30:19 AM UTC-6, risky biz wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 7:46:07 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 4:01:22 PM UTC-6, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 12:17:13 PM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 12:01:20 PM UTC-6, risky biz wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 4:27:57 AM UTC-8, irishra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > <snip’n shit>
> > > > 
> > > > > > > Irish Mike
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Obama’s legacy is President Trump
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > An 'epic loss', then, is when a candidate gets almost 3 million more votes?
> > > >  
> > > > > Come on Risky, you're smart enough to know it's not how many total votes you get but where
they are.
> > > > 
> > > > Come on Austin, you're smart enough to know what “epic loss” means.
> > > > 
> > > > Jerry ‘n Vegas
> > > > 
> > > > > Hillary could have gotten 3 million more votes in Ca or Trump could have gotten 3 million
more
> > > > > in TX and it would have changed squat.  Now some states mattered, you know like Michigan
and
> > > > > Wisconsin?   Save the one weird electoral vote in Maine, she might have gone over the top
had
> > > > > she not totally ignored them.  We will never know.
> > > > >
> > > > > > And how is it possible to 'demonize' Crooked Donald?
> > > > > 
> > > > > And yes, losing to an orange monkey is an EPIC loss.
> > > 
> > > And yes, losing to an orange monkey is an EPIC loss.
> > 
> > What do you call the losses of the Republican candidates who ran against Barack Obama?
Tremendous, fantastic, gigantic, monumental, epic losses? I don't recall you explaining that at
either time.
> 
> 
> 
> Since I voted for Obama and in fact made the only straight ticket vote ever I was not surprised,
dismayed or shocked,

Did the lack of those emotions make you go blind? I'm just wondering about your hierarchies of
'epic' and their numerical relationship to one another. Purely for unbiased reasons. I'd like to see
the power of the Hillary wing in the Dem party greatly reduced just as I'd like to see the power of
the nut wing in the Rep party reduced. And I'd like to see the imperialist wing in both parties
reduced. The imperialists are the supra-party who are f****** up America. 

	
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On 11/9/2017 4:38 PM, risky biz wrote:
> On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 2:22:51 PM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
>> On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 11:30:19 AM UTC-6, risky biz wrote:
>>> On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 7:46:07 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 4:01:22 PM UTC-6, VegasJerry wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 12:17:13 PM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 12:01:20 PM UTC-6, risky biz wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 4:27:57 AM UTC-8, irishra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip’n shit>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Irish Mike
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Obama’s legacy is President Trump
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An 'epic loss', then, is when a candidate gets almost 3 million more votes?
>>>>>   
>>>>>> Come on Risky, you're smart enough to know it's not how many total votes you get but where
they are.
>>>>>
>>>>> Come on Austin, you're smart enough to know what “epic loss” means.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jerry ‘n Vegas
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hillary could have gotten 3 million more votes in Ca or Trump could have gotten 3 million more
>>>>>> in TX and it would have changed squat.  Now some states mattered, you know like Michigan and
>>>>>> Wisconsin?   Save the one weird electoral vote in Maine, she might have gone over the top had
>>>>>> she not totally ignored them.  We will never know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And how is it possible to 'demonize' Crooked Donald?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And yes, losing to an orange monkey is an EPIC loss.
>>>>
>>>> And yes, losing to an orange monkey is an EPIC loss.
>>>
>>> What do you call the losses of the Republican candidates who ran against Barack Obama?
Tremendous, fantastic, gigantic, monumental, epic losses? I don't recall you explaining that at
either time.
>>
>>
>>
>> Since I voted for Obama and in fact made the only straight ticket vote ever I was not surprised,
dismayed or shocked,
> 
> Did the lack of those emotions make you go blind? I'm just wondering about your hierarchies of
'epic' and their numerical relationship to one another. Purely for unbiased reasons. I'd like to see
the power of the Hillary wing in the Dem party greatly reduced just as I'd like to see the power of
the nut wing in the Rep party reduced. And I'd like to see the imperialist wing in both parties
reduced. The imperialists are the supra-party who are f****** up America.
> 
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