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hahaha...look at that guy. What a moron. firkin clone.

Why are all Islamophobes so goddamned stupid? 

	
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On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 3:57:44 PM UTC-8, BillB's widow wrote:
> http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-reg-mosque-vandal-sente...
> 
> hahaha...look at that guy. What a moron. firkin clone.
> 
> Why are all Islamophobes so goddamned stupid?

Hmmm...according to Pam Geller, he was facing life in prison, so the judge actually went really easy
on him. 

https://pamelageller.com/2016/02/mosque-bacon-attack-could-get-flori...

Personally, I believe 15 years is probably sufficient. I'm a big believer in second chances. 

	
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BillB's widow wrote:

> On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 3:57:44 PM UTC-8, BillB's widow
> wrote:
> >
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-reg-mosque-vandal-sente...
> > 
> > hahaha...look at that guy. What a moron. firkin clone.
> > 
> > Why are all Islamophobes so goddamned stupid?
> 
> Hmmm...according to Pam Geller, he was facing life in prison, so the
> judge actually went really easy on him.
> 
>
https://pamelageller.com/2016/02/mosque-bacon-attack-could-get-flori...
> 
> Personally, I believe 15 years is probably sufficient. I'm a big
> believer in second chances.

I would have thought you'd be off celebrating 24/7 now that pompous ass
husband of yours was so kind to pop off. 

	
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From: Clave <ChrisClavius@TheMonastery.com>
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On 12/7/2017 12:09 AM, Dutch wrote:
> BillB's widow wrote:
> 
>> On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 3:57:44 PM UTC-8, BillB's widow
>> wrote:
>>>
> http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-reg-mosque-vandal-sente...
>>>
>>> hahaha...look at that guy. What a moron. firkin clone.
>>>
>>> Why are all Islamophobes so goddamned stupid?
>>
>> Hmmm...according to Pam Geller, he was facing life in prison, so the
>> judge actually went really easy on him.
>>
>>
> https://pamelageller.com/2016/02/mosque-bacon-attack-could-get-flori...
>>
>> Personally, I believe 15 years is probably sufficient. I'm a big
>> believer in second chances.
> 
> I would have thought you'd be off celebrating 24/7 now that pompous ass
> husband of yours was so kind to pop off.

Mee-yow.  Spoken like an oft-bitchslapped bitch. 

	
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Clave wrote:

> On 12/7/2017 12:09 AM, Dutch wrote:
> > BillB's widow wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 3:57:44 PM UTC-8, BillB's widow
> > > wrote:
> > > > 
> >
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-reg-mosque-vandal-sente...
> > > > 
> > > > hahaha...look at that guy. What a moron. firkin clone.
> > > > 
> > > > Why are all Islamophobes so goddamned stupid?
> > > 
> > > Hmmm...according to Pam Geller, he was facing life in prison, so
> > > the judge actually went really easy on him.
> > > 
> > > 
> >
https://pamelageller.com/2016/02/mosque-bacon-attack-could-get-flori...
> > > 
> > > Personally, I believe 15 years is probably sufficient. I'm a big
> > > believer in second chances.
> > 
> > I would have thought you'd be off celebrating 24/7 now that pompous
> > ass husband of yours was so kind to pop off.
> 
> Mee-yow.  Spoken like an oft-bitchslapped bitch.


Irony noted, given the fawning, ingratiating relationship you had with
him. 

	
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On 12/7/2017 1:44 PM, Dutch wrote:
> Clave wrote:
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>> On 12/7/2017 12:09 AM, Dutch wrote:
>>> BillB's widow wrote:
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>>>> On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 3:57:44 PM UTC-8, BillB's widow
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>
> http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-reg-mosque-vandal-sente...
>>>>>
>>>>> hahaha...look at that guy. What a moron. firkin clone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why are all Islamophobes so goddamned stupid?
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm...according to Pam Geller, he was facing life in prison, so
>>>> the judge actually went really easy on him.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
> https://pamelageller.com/2016/02/mosque-bacon-attack-could-get-flori...
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I believe 15 years is probably sufficient. I'm a big
>>>> believer in second chances.
>>>
>>> I would have thought you'd be off celebrating 24/7 now that pompous
>>> ass husband of yours was so kind to pop off.
>>
>> Mee-yow.  Spoken like an oft-bitchslapped bitch.
> 
> 
> Irony noted, given the fawning, ingratiating relationship you had with
> him.

LOFL -- you islamophobes and your little make-believe stories...

You believe whatever you need to believe, Peanut. 

	
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On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 12:09:36 AM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:

> I would have thought you'd be off celebrating 24/7 now that pompous ass
> husband of yours was so kind to pop off.

You must be that "Dutch" guy he told me about. Aren't you the complete moron who claimed for the
longest time that Islamophobia wasn't a real thing?  LOLOL!! 

Bill also told me that you believed that Saudi princes were executing multi-million dollar
racehorses for being gay! hahaha Don't worry...I didn't fall for that one. I knew he was just
joking. NOBODY is that fucking stupid, right? 

	
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BillB's widow wrote:

> On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 12:09:36 AM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
> 
> > I would have thought you'd be off celebrating 24/7 now that pompous
> > ass husband of yours was so kind to pop off.
> 
> You must be that "Dutch" guy he told me about. Aren't you the
> complete moron who claimed for the longest time that Islamophobia
> wasn't a real thing?  LOLOL!!

I always told Bill that screeching "Islamophobia" in the face of every
criticism of Islam was the tactic of an intellectual coward. He was
unable to deal with that reality. Maybe that killed him.

 
> Bill also told me that you believed that Saudi princes were executing
> multi-million dollar racehorses for being gay! hahaha Don't worry...I
> didn't fall for that one. I knew he was just joking. NOBODY is that
> fucking stupid, right?

He talked about me? That's not surprising. We was a pc nitwit, good
riddance to him. 

	
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On Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:39:41 UTC, Dutch  wrote:

> I always told Bill that screeching "Islamophobia" in the face of every
> criticism of Islam was the tactic of an intellectual coward.

Yet you use the term (call others that) yourself, with a "Dutch knows best" caveat. 

	
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fffurken wrote:

> On Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:39:41 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
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> > I always told Bill that screeching "Islamophobia" in the face of
> > every criticism of Islam was the tactic of an intellectual coward.
> 
> Yet you use the term (call others that) yourself, with a "Dutch knows
> best" caveat.

I never said that the term was completely meaningless, it's just
overused, and misused as a blunt instrument to silence all criticism of
Islam. A person who defaces mosques or verbally abuses Muslims on
public transit is obviously an Islamophobe,

I'd like to point out here that while you bristle at the "all Muslims"
criticism, your position appears to be exactly that. 

	
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On Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:52:35 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> fffurken wrote:
> 
> > On Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:39:41 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> > 
> > > I always told Bill that screeching "Islamophobia" in the face of
> > > every criticism of Islam was the tactic of an intellectual coward.
> > 
> > Yet you use the term (call others that) yourself, with a "Dutch knows
> > best" caveat.
> 
> I never said that the term was completely meaningless, it's just
> overused, and misused as a blunt instrument to silence all criticism of
> Islam. A person who defaces mosques or verbally abuses Muslims on
> public transit is obviously an Islamophobe,

Your hypocrisy is legendary.

The very make-up of the word, and what it conflates, has of course also been criticised, e.g. -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUJefiibHL4

> I'd like to point out here that while you bristle at the "all Muslims"
> criticism, your position appears to be exactly that.

I don't believe that all Muslims are anything other than alive, you SJW liar.

My definition of 'Muslim' is of course strict* (basically what it is), unlike yours. Which as we
discovered recently is essentially meaningless, at best. And I don't know why you would expect me to
respect anyone who believes (the essentially deified) Muhammad (piss be upon him) is the perfect
human and role model for all of mankind, and that Muslims are superior.

Let us not forget, that the superiority of Muslims is a normal belief (among Muslims). Here is an
example from a video which I posted previously in the thread entitled - "MUSLIMS REACTING TO
HOMOSEXUALS", which I only watched casually, of Muslims who pretend to be all tolerant and shit, but
are too stupid to airbrush their Muslim supremacy from their video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-5ocWPLLhs&t=10m37s

Here is another one of their videos of a confrontation with Jayda Fransen (Britian First) -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ0HsV0Jcvs

*I have given my exceptions before, MINO (Muslim In Name Only), Muslims in denial of (the awfulness
of) their (so-called) religion and I've also said that I don't believe there are 1.6 billion (or
whatever it is) Muslims in the world. Which I think of as more of a count of the populations of
Islamic countries, millions of whom won't actually be Muslim. Although it's obviously hard to be
open about that, as the punishment for apostasy in Islam is death. And even if they aren't murdered,
they can expect to be ostracised from their family, exiled from the community at large, etc. 

	
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> On Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:52:35 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> > fffurken wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:39:41 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I always told Bill that screeching "Islamophobia" in the face of
> > > > every criticism of Islam was the tactic of an intellectual
> > > > coward.
> > > 
> > > Yet you use the term (call others that) yourself, with a "Dutch
> > > knows best" caveat.
> > 
> > I never said that the term was completely meaningless, it's just
> > overused, and misused as a blunt instrument to silence all
> > criticism of Islam. A person who defaces mosques or verbally abuses
> > Muslims on public transit is obviously an Islamophobe,
> 
> Your hypocrisy is legendary.

non-sequitur, address my words

 
> The very make-up of the word, and what it conflates, has of course
> also been criticised, e.g. -
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUJefiibHL4

I agree with that criticism. I have posted that criticism, The word is
badly misused, but it is not completely meaningless.

> 
> > I'd like to point out here that while you bristle at the "all
> > Muslims" criticism, your position appears to be exactly that.
> 
> I don't believe that all Muslims are anything other than alive, you
> SJW liar.

Yet every time I mention "moderate Muslims" you flip out. 

> My definition of 'Muslim' is of course strict* (basically what it
> is), unlike yours. Which as we discovered recently is essentially
> meaningless, at best. And I don't know why you would expect me to
> respect anyone who believes (the essentially deified) Muhammad (piss
> be upon him) is the perfect human and role model for all of mankind,
> and that Muslims are superior.

Note, "Your definition..". 

> 
> Let us not forget, that the superiority of Muslims is a normal belief
> (among Muslims). Here is an example from a video which I posted
> previously in the thread entitled - "MUSLIMS REACTING TO
> HOMOSEXUALS", which I only watched casually, of Muslims who pretend
> to be all tolerant and shit, but are too stupid to airbrush their
> Muslim supremacy from their video.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-5ocWPLLhs&t=10m37s
> 
> Here is another one of their videos of a confrontation with Jayda
> Fransen (Britian First) -
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ0HsV0Jcvs
> 
> *I have given my exceptions before, MINO (Muslim In Name Only),
> Muslims in denial of (the awfulness of) their (so-called) religion
> and I've also said that I don't believe there are 1.6 billion (or
> whatever it is) Muslims in the world. Which I think of as more of a
> count of the populations of Islamic countries, millions of whom won't
> actually be Muslim. Although it's obviously hard to be open about
> that, as the punishment for apostasy in Islam is death. And even if
> they aren't murdered, they can expect to be ostracised from their
> family, exiled from the community at large, etc.

Don't know what your point is there.. 

	
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On Friday, 8 December 2017 01:10:50 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> fffurken wrote:
> 
> > On Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:52:35 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> > > fffurken wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:39:41 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > I always told Bill that screeching "Islamophobia" in the face of
> > > > > every criticism of Islam was the tactic of an intellectual
> > > > > coward.
> > > > 
> > > > Yet you use the term (call others that) yourself, with a "Dutch
> > > > knows best" caveat.
> > > 
> > > I never said that the term was completely meaningless, it's just
> > > overused, and misused as a blunt instrument to silence all
> > > criticism of Islam. A person who defaces mosques or verbally abuses
> > > Muslims on public transit is obviously an Islamophobe,
> > 
> > Your hypocrisy is legendary.
> 
> non-sequitur, address my words

I did - you're a hypocrite

> 
>  
> > The very make-up of the word, and what it conflates, has of course
> > also been criticised, e.g. -
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUJefiibHL4
> 
> I agree with that criticism. I have posted that criticism, The word is
> badly misused, but it is not completely meaningless.

Tell me how you use it other than how any other SJW does?

> 
> > 
> > > I'd like to point out here that while you bristle at the "all
> > > Muslims" criticism, your position appears to be exactly that.
> > 
> > I don't believe that all Muslims are anything other than alive, you
> > SJW liar.
> 
> Yet every time I mention "moderate Muslims" you flip out. 

I'm not a fan of the term "moderate Muslim", tell me what's "moderate" about being a Muslim? Do you
at least agree that there is no such thing as moderate Islam?

> 
> > My definition of 'Muslim' is of course strict* (basically what it
> > is), unlike yours. Which as we discovered recently is essentially
> > meaningless, at best. And I don't know why you would expect me to
> > respect anyone who believes (the essentially deified) Muhammad (piss
> > be upon him) is the perfect human and role model for all of mankind,
> > and that Muslims are superior.
> 
> Note, "Your definition..". 

Tell me what's wrong with "my definition" of Muslim?

> 
> > 
> > Let us not forget, that the superiority of Muslims is a normal belief
> > (among Muslims). Here is an example from a video which I posted
> > previously in the thread entitled - "MUSLIMS REACTING TO
> > HOMOSEXUALS", which I only watched casually, of Muslims who pretend
> > to be all tolerant and shit, but are too stupid to airbrush their
> > Muslim supremacy from their video.
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-5ocWPLLhs&t=10m37s
> > 
> > Here is another one of their videos of a confrontation with Jayda
> > Fransen (Britian First) -
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ0HsV0Jcvs
> > 
> > *I have given my exceptions before, MINO (Muslim In Name Only),
> > Muslims in denial of (the awfulness of) their (so-called) religion
> > and I've also said that I don't believe there are 1.6 billion (or
> > whatever it is) Muslims in the world. Which I think of as more of a
> > count of the populations of Islamic countries, millions of whom won't
> > actually be Muslim. Although it's obviously hard to be open about
> > that, as the punishment for apostasy in Islam is death. And even if
> > they aren't murdered, they can expect to be ostracised from their
> > family, exiled from the community at large, etc.
> 
> Don't know what your point is there..

Is that because you're obtuse? 

	
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> On Friday, 8 December 2017 01:10:50 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> > fffurken wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:52:35 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> > > > fffurken wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:39:41 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > I always told Bill that screeching "Islamophobia" in the
> > > > > > face of every criticism of Islam was the tactic of an
> > > > > > intellectual coward.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yet you use the term (call others that) yourself, with a
> > > > > "Dutch knows best" caveat.
> > > > 
> > > > I never said that the term was completely meaningless, it's just
> > > > overused, and misused as a blunt instrument to silence all
> > > > criticism of Islam. A person who defaces mosques or verbally
> > > > abuses Muslims on public transit is obviously an Islamophobe,
> > > 
> > > Your hypocrisy is legendary.
> > 
> > non-sequitur, address my words
> 
> I did - you're a hypocrite

That's no better than shouting "Islamophobe!", it's just avoidance. 
> 
> > 
> >  
> > > The very make-up of the word, and what it conflates, has of course
> > > also been criticised, e.g. -
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUJefiibHL4
> > 
> > I agree with that criticism. I have posted that criticism, The word
> > is badly misused, but it is not completely meaningless.
 
> Tell me how you use it other than how any other SJW does?

I did, above. 
 
> > > 
> > > > I'd like to point out here that while you bristle at the "all
> > > > Muslims" criticism, your position appears to be exactly that.
> > > 
> > > I don't believe that all Muslims are anything other than alive,
> > > you SJW liar.
> > 
> > Yet every time I mention "moderate Muslims" you flip out. 
> 
> I'm not a fan of the term "moderate Muslim", tell me what's
> "moderate" about being a Muslim? Do you at least agree that there is
> no such thing as moderate Islam?

How can you believe that and think that you should be taken seriously
when you bristle at the "all Muslims" accusation?


> > > My definition of 'Muslim' is of course strict* (basically what it
> > > is), unlike yours. Which as we discovered recently is essentially
> > > meaningless, at best. And I don't know why you would expect me to
> > > respect anyone who believes (the essentially deified) Muhammad
> > > (piss be upon him) is the perfect human and role model for all of
> > > mankind, and that Muslims are superior.
> > 
> > Note, "Your definition..". 
> 
> Tell me what's wrong with "my definition" of Muslim?

It's simplistic. Muslims occupy a wide spectrum of beliefs and
practises, like every ideaology.


> > > 
> > > Let us not forget, that the superiority of Muslims is a normal
> > > belief (among Muslims). Here is an example from a video which I
> > > posted previously in the thread entitled - "MUSLIMS REACTING TO
> > > HOMOSEXUALS", which I only watched casually, of Muslims who
> > > pretend to be all tolerant and shit, but are too stupid to
> > > airbrush their Muslim supremacy from their video.
> > > 
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-5ocWPLLhs&t=10m37s
> > > 
> > > Here is another one of their videos of a confrontation with Jayda
> > > Fransen (Britian First) -
> > > 
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ0HsV0Jcvs
> > > 
> > > *I have given my exceptions before, MINO (Muslim In Name Only),
> > > Muslims in denial of (the awfulness of) their (so-called) religion
> > > and I've also said that I don't believe there are 1.6 billion (or
> > > whatever it is) Muslims in the world. Which I think of as more of
> > > a count of the populations of Islamic countries, millions of whom
> > > won't actually be Muslim. Although it's obviously hard to be open
> > > about that, as the punishment for apostasy in Islam is death. And
> > > even if they aren't murdered, they can expect to be ostracised
> > > from their family, exiled from the community at large, etc.
> > 
> > Don't know what your point is there..
> 
> Is that because you're obtuse?

I think it's because the point isn't clear. 

	
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> > On Friday, 8 December 2017 01:10:50 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> > > fffurken wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:52:35 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> > > > > fffurken wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:39:41 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I always told Bill that screeching "Islamophobia" in the
> > > > > > > face of every criticism of Islam was the tactic of an
> > > > > > > intellectual coward.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yet you use the term (call others that) yourself, with a
> > > > > > "Dutch knows best" caveat.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I never said that the term was completely meaningless, it's just
> > > > > overused, and misused as a blunt instrument to silence all
> > > > > criticism of Islam. A person who defaces mosques or verbally
> > > > > abuses Muslims on public transit is obviously an Islamophobe,
> > > > 
> > > > Your hypocrisy is legendary.
> > > 
> > > non-sequitur, address my words
> > 
> > I did - you're a hypocrite
> 
> That's no better than shouting "Islamophobe!", it's just avoidance. 
> > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > > The very make-up of the word, and what it conflates, has of course
> > > > also been criticised, e.g. -
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUJefiibHL4
> > > 
> > > I agree with that criticism. I have posted that criticism, The word
> > > is badly misused, but it is not completely meaningless.
>  
> > Tell me how you use it other than how any other SJW does?
> 
> I did, above. 

What you described above would be described as 'Islamophobia' by an SJW/Islamopologist, I asked you
for a way that you would use the term.. that an SJW/Islamopologist _doesn't_

>  
> > > > 
> > > > > I'd like to point out here that while you bristle at the "all
> > > > > Muslims" criticism, your position appears to be exactly that.
> > > > 
> > > > I don't believe that all Muslims are anything other than alive,
> > > > you SJW liar.
> > > 
> > > Yet every time I mention "moderate Muslims" you flip out. 
> > 
> > I'm not a fan of the term "moderate Muslim", tell me what's
> > "moderate" about being a Muslim? Do you at least agree that there is
> > no such thing as moderate Islam?
> 
> How can you believe that and think that you should be taken seriously
> when you bristle at the "all Muslims" accusation?
> 
> 
> > > > My definition of 'Muslim' is of course strict* (basically what it
> > > > is), unlike yours. Which as we discovered recently is essentially
> > > > meaningless, at best. And I don't know why you would expect me to
> > > > respect anyone who believes (the essentially deified) Muhammad
> > > > (piss be upon him) is the perfect human and role model for all of
> > > > mankind, and that Muslims are superior.
> > > 
> > > Note, "Your definition..". 
> > 
> > Tell me what's wrong with "my definition" of Muslim?
> 
> It's simplistic. Muslims occupy a wide spectrum of beliefs and
> practises, like every ideaology.

Devon Tracey did a video about Earthling Carl a while back after he (Earthling Carl) did a video
criticising him on Islam, specifically his use of the term moderate/radical Muslim.

I'll leave out the first two videos but here is Earthling Carl's response video to Devon's response
video of Earthling Carl's original video, so it's the third and final video -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo5bgEwvpEc

Please watch it and try to understand what's being said.

Additionally, here is the clip from the Muslim "Peace Conference" from Norway which I've posted
before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHLKFFq74Gk

You were at first non-responsive to that but when pressed, you said that the audience was forced
(under threat, to agree). That is not the case. Please watch it again, understand what's being said
(by the speaker), and if you then want to believe that they are all (speakers + audience) "radical
Muslims", not "moderate Muslims", then so be it.

> 
> 
> > > > 
> > > > Let us not forget, that the superiority of Muslims is a normal
> > > > belief (among Muslims). Here is an example from a video which I
> > > > posted previously in the thread entitled - "MUSLIMS REACTING TO
> > > > HOMOSEXUALS", which I only watched casually, of Muslims who
> > > > pretend to be all tolerant and shit, but are too stupid to
> > > > airbrush their Muslim supremacy from their video.
> > > > 
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-5ocWPLLhs&t=10m37s
> > > > 
> > > > Here is another one of their videos of a confrontation with Jayda
> > > > Fransen (Britian First) -
> > > > 
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ0HsV0Jcvs
> > > > 
> > > > *I have given my exceptions before, MINO (Muslim In Name Only),
> > > > Muslims in denial of (the awfulness of) their (so-called) religion
> > > > and I've also said that I don't believe there are 1.6 billion (or
> > > > whatever it is) Muslims in the world. Which I think of as more of
> > > > a count of the populations of Islamic countries, millions of whom
> > > > won't actually be Muslim. Although it's obviously hard to be open
> > > > about that, as the punishment for apostasy in Islam is death. And
> > > > even if they aren't murdered, they can expect to be ostracised
> > > > from their family, exiled from the community at large, etc.
> > > 
> > > Don't know what your point is there..
> > 
> > Is that because you're obtuse?
> 
> I think it's because the point isn't clear.

I'm not even sure what "point" you're referring to, perhaps if you isolated a piece of text that
might help. What I described above is a list of "Muslims" I would not consider to be Muslims, and
indeed would be a list of exceptions to the "all Muslims" SJW/Islamopologist strawman "argument". 

	
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> On Saturday, 9 December 2017 05:19:46 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> > fffurken wrote:
> > 
> > > On Friday, 8 December 2017 01:10:50 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> > > > fffurken wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:52:35 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> > > > > > fffurken wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:39:41 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I always told Bill that screeching "Islamophobia" in the
> > > > > > > > face of every criticism of Islam was the tactic of an
> > > > > > > > intellectual coward.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Yet you use the term (call others that) yourself, with a
> > > > > > > "Dutch knows best" caveat.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I never said that the term was completely meaningless, it's
> > > > > > just overused, and misused as a blunt instrument to silence
> > > > > > all criticism of Islam. A person who defaces mosques or
> > > > > > verbally abuses Muslims on public transit is obviously an
> > > > > > Islamophobe,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Your hypocrisy is legendary.
> > > > 
> > > > non-sequitur, address my words
> > > 
> > > I did - you're a hypocrite
> > 
> > That's no better than shouting "Islamophobe!", it's just avoidance. 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > > The very make-up of the word, and what it conflates, has of
> > > > > course also been criticised, e.g. -
> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUJefiibHL4
> > > > 
> > > > I agree with that criticism. I have posted that criticism, The
> > > > word is badly misused, but it is not completely meaningless.
> >  
> > > Tell me how you use it other than how any other SJW does?
> > 
> > I did, above. 
> 
> What you described above would be described as 'Islamophobia' by an
> SJW/Islamopologist, I asked you for a way that you would use the
> term.. that an SJW/Islamopologist doesn't

A person who defaces mosques, rips off headscarves, or verbally
assaults Muslims as they mind their own business on a subway train,
could be called an Islamophobe. Those would be reasonable applications
of that word. SJW's use it to describe anyone who is critical of any
Islamic belief, practice or state. In that case it becomes an abusive
and corrupt word, used to stifle free expression. For that reason I
think the word is so tainted it should be avoided altogether.

 
> 
> >  
> > > > > 
> > > > > > I'd like to point out here that while you bristle at the
> > > > > > "all Muslims" criticism, your position appears to be
> > > > > > exactly that.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I don't believe that all Muslims are anything other than
> > > > > alive, you SJW liar.
> > > > 
> > > > Yet every time I mention "moderate Muslims" you flip out. 
> > > 
> > > I'm not a fan of the term "moderate Muslim", tell me what's
> > > "moderate" about being a Muslim? Do you at least agree that there
> > > is no such thing as moderate Islam?
> > 
> > How can you believe that and think that you should be taken
> > seriously when you bristle at the "all Muslims" accusation?
> > 
> > 
> > > > > My definition of 'Muslim' is of course strict* (basically
> > > > > what it is), unlike yours. Which as we discovered recently is
> > > > > essentially meaningless, at best. And I don't know why you
> > > > > would expect me to respect anyone who believes (the
> > > > > essentially deified) Muhammad (piss be upon him) is the
> > > > > perfect human and role model for all of mankind, and that
> > > > > Muslims are superior.
> > > > 
> > > > Note, "Your definition..". 
> > > 
> > > Tell me what's wrong with "my definition" of Muslim?
> > 
> > It's simplistic. Muslims occupy a wide spectrum of beliefs and
> > practises, like every ideaology.
> 
> Devon Tracey did a video about Earthling Carl a while back after he
> (Earthling Carl) did a video criticising him on Islam, specifically
> his use of the term moderate/radical Muslim.
> 
> I'll leave out the first two videos but here is Earthling Carl's
> response video to Devon's response video of Earthling Carl's original
> video, so it's the third and final video -
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo5bgEwvpEc
> 
> Please watch it and try to understand what's being said.

I watched enough to get the gist. I agree with Devon. In the west where
there is freedom, Muslims, like everyone else, are free to express
their faith as they see fit, as long as it is within the law, I get it
that in some places that attitude would put you in prison or worse.

> 
> Additionally, here is the clip from the Muslim "Peace Conference"
> from Norway which I've posted before.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHLKFFq74Gk
> 
> You were at first non-responsive to that but when pressed, you said
> that the audience was forced (under threat, to agree). That is not
> the case. Please watch it again, understand what's being said (by the
> speaker), and if you then want to believe that they are all (speakers
> + audience) "radical Muslims", not "moderate Muslims", then so be it.

If I was in that crowd I'd raise my hand too. 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Let us not forget, that the superiority of Muslims is a normal
> > > > > belief (among Muslims). Here is an example from a video which
> > > > > I posted previously in the thread entitled - "MUSLIMS
> > > > > REACTING TO HOMOSEXUALS", which I only watched casually, of
> > > > > Muslims who pretend to be all tolerant and shit, but are too
> > > > > stupid to airbrush their Muslim supremacy from their video.
> > > > > 
> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-5ocWPLLhs&t=10m37s
> > > > > 
> > > > > Here is another one of their videos of a confrontation with
> > > > > Jayda Fransen (Britian First) -
> > > > > 
> > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ0HsV0Jcvs
> > > > > 
> > > > > *I have given my exceptions before, MINO (Muslim In Name
> > > > > Only), Muslims in denial of (the awfulness of) their
> > > > > (so-called) religion and I've also said that I don't believe
> > > > > there are 1.6 billion (or whatever it is) Muslims in the
> > > > > world. Which I think of as more of a count of the populations
> > > > > of Islamic countries, millions of whom won't actually be
> > > > > Muslim. Although it's obviously hard to be open about that,
> > > > > as the punishment for apostasy in Islam is death. And even if
> > > > > they aren't murdered, they can expect to be ostracised from
> > > > > their family, exiled from the community at large, etc.
> > > > 
> > > > Don't know what your point is there..
> > > 
> > > Is that because you're obtuse?
> > 
> > I think it's because the point isn't clear.
> 
> I'm not even sure what "point" you're referring to, perhaps if you
> isolated a piece of text that might help. What I described above is a
> list of "Muslims" I would not consider to be Muslims, and indeed
> would be a list of exceptions to the "all Muslims" SJW/Islamopologist
> strawman "argument

What you call "not Muslims" I would call moderate Muslims. The guys on
the stage above would agree with you, but that doesn't make it a fact. 

	
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On Saturday, 9 December 2017 21:09:54 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> fffurken wrote:
> 
> > On Saturday, 9 December 2017 05:19:46 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> > > fffurken wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Friday, 8 December 2017 01:10:50 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> > > > > fffurken wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:52:35 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> > > > > > > fffurken wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:39:41 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I always told Bill that screeching "Islamophobia" in the
> > > > > > > > > face of every criticism of Islam was the tactic of an
> > > > > > > > > intellectual coward.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Yet you use the term (call others that) yourself, with a
> > > > > > > > "Dutch knows best" caveat.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I never said that the term was completely meaningless, it's
> > > > > > > just overused, and misused as a blunt instrument to silence
> > > > > > > all criticism of Islam. A person who defaces mosques or
> > > > > > > verbally abuses Muslims on public transit is obviously an
> > > > > > > Islamophobe,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Your hypocrisy is legendary.
> > > > > 
> > > > > non-sequitur, address my words
> > > > 
> > > > I did - you're a hypocrite
> > > 
> > > That's no better than shouting "Islamophobe!", it's just avoidance. 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >  
> > > > > > The very make-up of the word, and what it conflates, has of
> > > > > > course also been criticised, e.g. -
> > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUJefiibHL4
> > > > > 
> > > > > I agree with that criticism. I have posted that criticism, The
> > > > > word is badly misused, but it is not completely meaningless.
> > >  
> > > > Tell me how you use it other than how any other SJW does?
> > > 
> > > I did, above. 
> > 
> > What you described above would be described as 'Islamophobia' by an
> > SJW/Islamopologist, I asked you for a way that you would use the
> > term.. that an SJW/Islamopologist doesn't
> 
> A person who defaces mosques, rips off headscarves, or verbally
> assaults Muslims as they mind their own business on a subway train,
> could be called an Islamophobe. Those would be reasonable applications
> of that word. SJW's use it to describe anyone who is critical of any
> Islamic belief, practice or state. In that case it becomes an abusive
> and corrupt word, used to stifle free expression. [For that reason I
> think the word is so tainted it should be avoided altogether.]

Thank you, Q.E.D., you're a hypocrite

> 
>  
> > 
> > >  
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I'd like to point out here that while you bristle at the
> > > > > > > "all Muslims" criticism, your position appears to be
> > > > > > > exactly that.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I don't believe that all Muslims are anything other than
> > > > > > alive, you SJW liar.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yet every time I mention "moderate Muslims" you flip out. 
> > > > 
> > > > I'm not a fan of the term "moderate Muslim", tell me what's
> > > > "moderate" about being a Muslim? Do you at least agree that there
> > > > is no such thing as moderate Islam?
> > > 
> > > How can you believe that and think that you should be taken
> > > seriously when you bristle at the "all Muslims" accusation?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > > > My definition of 'Muslim' is of course strict* (basically
> > > > > > what it is), unlike yours. Which as we discovered recently is
> > > > > > essentially meaningless, at best. And I don't know why you
> > > > > > would expect me to respect anyone who believes (the
> > > > > > essentially deified) Muhammad (piss be upon him) is the
> > > > > > perfect human and role model for all of mankind, and that
> > > > > > Muslims are superior.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Note, "Your definition..". 
> > > > 
> > > > Tell me what's wrong with "my definition" of Muslim?
> > > 
> > > It's simplistic. Muslims occupy a wide spectrum of beliefs and
> > > practises, like every ideaology.
> > 
> > Devon Tracey did a video about Earthling Carl a while back after he
> > (Earthling Carl) did a video criticising him on Islam, specifically
> > his use of the term moderate/radical Muslim.
> > 
> > I'll leave out the first two videos but here is Earthling Carl's
> > response video to Devon's response video of Earthling Carl's original
> > video, so it's the third and final video -
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo5bgEwvpEc
> > 
> > Please watch it and try to understand what's being said.
> 
> I watched enough to get the gist. I agree with Devon. In the west where
> there is freedom, Muslims, like everyone else, are free to express
> their faith as they see fit, as long as it is within the law, I get it
> that in some places that attitude would put you in prison or worse.

Why didn't you watch all of it? I doubt you did get the "gist", as evidenced by the digital
diarrhoea you wrote immediately after making the claim.

> 
> > 
> > Additionally, here is the clip from the Muslim "Peace Conference"
> > from Norway which I've posted before.
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHLKFFq74Gk
> > 
> > You were at first non-responsive to that but when pressed, you said
> > that the audience was forced (under threat, to agree). That is not
> > the case. Please watch it again, understand what's being said (by the
> > speaker), and if you then want to believe that they are all (speakers
> > + audience) "radical Muslims", not "moderate Muslims", then so be it.
> 
> If I was in that crowd I'd raise my hand too. 

So you're *still* saying they did it under duress? smh

> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Let us not forget, that the superiority of Muslims is a normal
> > > > > > belief (among Muslims). Here is an example from a video which
> > > > > > I posted previously in the thread entitled - "MUSLIMS
> > > > > > REACTING TO HOMOSEXUALS", which I only watched casually, of
> > > > > > Muslims who pretend to be all tolerant and shit, but are too
> > > > > > stupid to airbrush their Muslim supremacy from their video.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-5ocWPLLhs&t=10m37s
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Here is another one of their videos of a confrontation with
> > > > > > Jayda Fransen (Britian First) -
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ0HsV0Jcvs
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > *I have given my exceptions before, MINO (Muslim In Name
> > > > > > Only), Muslims in denial of (the awfulness of) their
> > > > > > (so-called) religion and I've also said that I don't believe
> > > > > > there are 1.6 billion (or whatever it is) Muslims in the
> > > > > > world. Which I think of as more of a count of the populations
> > > > > > of Islamic countries, millions of whom won't actually be
> > > > > > Muslim. Although it's obviously hard to be open about that,
> > > > > > as the punishment for apostasy in Islam is death. And even if
> > > > > > they aren't murdered, they can expect to be ostracised from
> > > > > > their family, exiled from the community at large, etc.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Don't know what your point is there..
> > > > 
> > > > Is that because you're obtuse?
> > > 
> > > I think it's because the point isn't clear.
> > 
> > I'm not even sure what "point" you're referring to, perhaps if you
> > isolated a piece of text that might help. What I described above is a
> > list of "Muslims" I would not consider to be Muslims, and indeed
> > would be a list of exceptions to the "all Muslims" SJW/Islamopologist
> > strawman "argument
> 
> What you call "not Muslims" I would call moderate Muslims. The guys on
> the stage above would agree with you, but that doesn't make it a fact.

The people on stage might be more likely to call that ("moderate Muslim") an apostate, or a
hypocrite, a big no-no in Islam.

https://islamqa.info/en/12387 

	
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On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 13:51:15 -0800 (PST), fffurken<fffurken1@mail.com>
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>> What you call "not Muslims" I would call moderate Muslims. The guys on
>> the stage above would agree with you, but that doesn't make it a fact.
>
>The people on stage might be more likely to call that ("moderate Muslim") an apostate, or a
hypocrite, a big no-no in Islam.

Undoubtedly, so? They are fundamentalist Muslim leaders. Of course
that's what they believe.  

Judge Roy Moore believes homosexuals should be in prison and he can
probably quote where the bible backs him up on that. Are you not a
Christian if you don't agree? 

	
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On Saturday, 9 December 2017 23:08:31 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 13:51:15 -0800 (PST), fffurken<fffurken1@mail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >> What you call "not Muslims" I would call moderate Muslims. The guys on
> >> the stage above would agree with you, but that doesn't make it a fact.
> >
> >The people on stage might be more likely to call that ("moderate Muslim") an apostate, or a
hypocrite, a big no-no in Islam.
> 
> Undoubtedly, so?

The first of all "so" is that I wouldn't "agree" with them, as you said. As I would not call anyone
an 'apostate', or a 'hypocrite', of Islam, as I am not a Muslim.

>  They are fundamentalist Muslim leaders. 

"fundamentalist".. "leaders"...

> Of course that's what they believe.

What's the difference (which you insist) between them and the audience? All you're clinging to is a
silly hope

> Judge Roy Moore believes homosexuals should be in prison and he can
> probably quote where the bible backs him up on that. Are you not a
> Christian if you don't agree?

Classic regressivism, highlighted by point #3 http://www.regressiveagenda.com/ 

	
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On Saturday, 9 December 2017 23:08:31 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 13:51:15 -0800 (PST), fffurken<fffurken1@mail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> What you call "not Muslims" I would call moderate Muslims. The guys on
> >> the stage above would agree with you, but that doesn't make it a fact.
> >
> >The people on stage might be more likely to call that ("moderate Muslim") 
> >an apostate, or a hypocrite, a big no-no in Islam.
>
> Undoubtedly, so?

The first of all "so" is that I wouldn't "agree" with them, as you said. As 
I would not call anyone an 'apostate', or a 'hypocrite', of Islam, as I am 
not a Muslim.

What doubletalk. You have the same view of Islam as the guy on the stage, 
except he believes in it and you don't.  That view is that there's only one 
"true" way to be a Muslim.

>  They are fundamentalist Muslim leaders.

"fundamentalist".. "leaders"...

Polly want a cracker?

> Of course that's what they believe.

What's the difference (which you insist) between them and the audience? All 
you're clinging to is a silly hope

The guys on the stage are all fully indoctrinated fundys, the ones in the 
audience may or may not be.

> Judge Roy Moore believes homosexuals should be in prison and he can
> probably quote where the bible backs him up on that. Are you not a
> Christian if you don't agree?

Classic regressivism, highlighted by point #3 
http://www.regressiveagenda.com/

Bullshit. 

	
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On Sunday, 10 December 2017 04:43:09 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> "fffurken"  wrote in message 
> news:7ee60303-3d5d-4c69-8d57-87d9bf7c2d8b@googlegroups.com...
> 
> On Saturday, 9 December 2017 23:08:31 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> > On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 13:51:15 -0800 (PST), fffurken<fffurken1@mail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >> What you call "not Muslims" I would call moderate Muslims. The guys on
> > >> the stage above would agree with you, but that doesn't make it a fact.
> > >
> > >The people on stage might be more likely to call that ("moderate Muslim") 
> > >an apostate, or a hypocrite, a big no-no in Islam.
> >
> > Undoubtedly, so?
> 
> The first of all "so" is that I wouldn't "agree" with them, as you said. As 
> I would not call anyone an 'apostate', or a 'hypocrite', of Islam, as I am 
> not a Muslim.
> 
> What doubletalk. 

Add 'doubletalk' to the list of words you don't understand, like 'Muslim'.

You have the same view of Islam as the guy on the stage, 
> except he believes in it and you don't.  That view is that there's only one 
> "true" way to be a Muslim.
> 
> >  They are fundamentalist Muslim leaders.
> 
> "fundamentalist".. "leaders"...
> 
> Polly want a cracker?
> 
> > Of course that's what they believe.
> 
> What's the difference (which you insist) between them and the audience? All 
> you're clinging to is a silly hope
> 
> The guys on the stage are all fully indoctrinated fundys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo5bgEwvpEc&t=180

, the ones in the 
> audience may or may not be.
> 
> > Judge Roy Moore believes homosexuals should be in prison and he can
> > probably quote where the bible backs him up on that. Are you not a
> > Christian if you don't agree?
> 
> Classic regressivism, highlighted by point #3 
> http://www.regressiveagenda.com/
> 
> Bullshit. 

	
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> fffurken wrote:
> 
> > On Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:39:41 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
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> > > I always told Bill that screeching "Islamophobia" in the face of
> > > every criticism of Islam was the tactic of an intellectual coward.
> > 
> > Yet you use the term (call others that) yourself, with a "Dutch knows
> > best" caveat.
> 
> I never said that the term was completely meaningless, it's just
> overused, and misused as a blunt instrument to silence all criticism of
> Islam. A person who defaces mosques or verbally abuses Muslims on
> public transit is obviously an Islamophobe,

So is someone who obsessively promotes lies about Muslims repeating them even after the lies have
been exposed. That's you.

> I'd like to point out here that while you bristle at the "all Muslims"
> criticism, your position appears to be exactly that. 

	
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> > an Islamophobe,
> 
> is someone who obsessively promotes lies about Muslims repeating them even after the lies have
been exposed.

Baha! So you are admitting that YOU are an 'Islamophobe' lol Too funny 

	
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> On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 1:52:35 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
> > fffurken wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thursday, 7 December 2017 21:39:41 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I always told Bill that screeching "Islamophobia" in the face of
> > > > every criticism of Islam was the tactic of an intellectual
> > > > coward.
> > > 
> > > Yet you use the term (call others that) yourself, with a "Dutch
> > > knows best" caveat.
> > 
> > I never said that the term was completely meaningless, it's just
> > overused, and misused as a blunt instrument to silence all
> > criticism of Islam. A person who defaces mosques or verbally abuses
> > Muslims on public transit is obviously an Islamophobe,
> 
> So is someone who obsessively promotes lies about Muslims repeating
> them even after the lies have been exposed. That's you.

Such as?

> 
> > I'd like to point out here that while you bristle at the "all
> > Muslims" criticism, your position appears to be exactly that. 

	
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On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 6:57:44 PM 

"KARACHI, Pakistan –  Pakistani police say they have arrested ten people for killing a newly-wed
couple who entered into a free-will marriage in the southern port city of Karachi.

Officer Qasim Hameed said Monday that Abdul Hadi, 24, and Hasina Bibi, 19, were killed by relatives
last week for marrying without permission from their elders earlier this month.

Qasim said Hadi's father and nine other relatives were arrested after the couple's bodies were found
in a local graveyard on Sunday. He said Bibi's father has absconded.

He added that the men confessed to murdering the couple with knives upon the orders of a "Jirga," or
tribal council, for dishonoring their Pashtun culture.

Nearly 1,000 Pakistani women are killed by close relatives each year in so-called honor killings."

Irish Mike

“So America, do you think you’re at war with a small group of Mujahedeen in Iraq, Syria, Libya
and other places? You are sadly mistaken. America, indeed you are at war with all the true and
sincere Muslims around the world.”   Abu Isma'il Al-Amriki, praising the Orlando muslim terrorist
attack. 

	
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On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 2:58:31 PM UTC-8, irishra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 6:57:44 PM 
> 
> "KARACHI, Pakistan –  Pakistani police say they have arrested ten people for killing a newly-wed
couple who entered into a free-will marriage in the southern port city of Karachi.
> 
> Officer Qasim Hameed said Monday that Abdul Hadi, 24, and Hasina Bibi, 19, were killed by
relatives last week for marrying without permission from their elders earlier this month.
> 
> Qasim said Hadi's father and nine other relatives were arrested after the couple's bodies were
found in a local graveyard on Sunday. He said Bibi's father has absconded.
> 
> He added that the men confessed to murdering the couple with knives upon the orders of a "Jirga,"
or tribal council, for dishonoring their Pashtun culture.
> 
> Nearly 1,000 Pakistani women are killed by close relatives each year in so-called honor killings."
> 
> Irish Mike
> 
> “So America, do you think you’re at war with a small group of Mujahedeen in Iraq, Syria, Libya
and other places? You are sadly mistaken. America, indeed you are at war with all the true and
sincere Muslims around the world.”   Abu Isma'il Al-Amriki, praising the Orlando muslim terrorist
attack.

The part Irish Mike is too dumb or too bigoted or both, to absorb: 'for dishonoring their Pashtun
culture'. 

	
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On Friday, 8 December 2017 21:45:27 UTC, risky biz  wrote:
> On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 2:58:31 PM UTC-8, irishra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 6:57:44 PM 
> > 
> > "KARACHI, Pakistan –  Pakistani police say they have arrested ten people for killing a
newly-wed couple who entered into a free-will marriage in the southern port city of Karachi.
> > 
> > Officer Qasim Hameed said Monday that Abdul Hadi, 24, and Hasina Bibi, 19, were killed by
relatives last week for marrying without permission from their elders earlier this month.
> > 
> > Qasim said Hadi's father and nine other relatives were arrested after the couple's bodies were
found in a local graveyard on Sunday. He said Bibi's father has absconded.
> > 
> > He added that the men confessed to murdering the couple with knives upon the orders of a
"Jirga," or tribal council, for dishonoring their Pashtun culture.
> > 
> > Nearly 1,000 Pakistani women are killed by close relatives each year in so-called honor
killings."
> > 
> > Irish Mike
> > 
> > “So America, do you think you’re at war with a small group of Mujahedeen in Iraq, Syria,
Libya and other places? You are sadly mistaken. America, indeed you are at war with all the true and
sincere Muslims around the world.”   Abu Isma'il Al-Amriki, praising the Orlando muslim terrorist
attack.
> 
> The part Irish Mike is too dumb or too bigoted or both, to absorb: 'for dishonoring their Pashtun
culture'.


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