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Subject: My personal sociology experiment
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If you read my posts you know my wife and I are starting to prepare for a semi-retirement lifestyle.
We will soon be cashing in all our chips in Vancouver (before the crash) and finding a new (much
cheaper) home base from which to launch our RV adventures. My wife is pretty much leaving all the
details up to me. She is in agreement with every idea I pitch, which is a little scary, but one of
the reasons I love her. She has always been game for almost anything.

I have tried to keep a totally open mind. We could stay in Vancouver, or go literally anywhere in
Canada. We do want to stay in Canada (for at least 6 months a year) for the free lifetime
healthcare, which is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars to us. After all, I'm not an idiot.

Anyway, I think I have the location nailed down. There were about a dozen finalists, but I kept
coming back to the same place over and over until I finally had to declare it a winner. I don't want
to disclose the location just yet, but I can tell you that we will be getting an incredible bang for
our housing buck. Compared to Vancouver, it's absolutely mind boggling how big and cheap the houses
are there. They're practically free. We will definitely be living mortgage-free. We will also be in
an extremely strategic location offering excellent RV destinations within a day's drive (and beyond)
in almost every direction. It's on a large body of water, and has been acclaimed as one of the best
tourist destinations in Canada.

There's only one problem with this ostensible paradise. It's all white. Like, we're talking 99%+. I
don't know if I can handle living with all white people. My wife and I have always lived in a 
multicultural environment.

If any of you have ever had to live exclusively among white people for an extended period of time,
I'd love to hear any survival tips or other experiences you might have to share. Was it worth it?
Did you get bored? Did you find that the white people were less overtly racist with no minorities
around...or were they even worse?? 

	
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On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 9:45:09 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
> If you read my posts you know my wife and I are starting to prepare for a semi-retirement
lifestyle. We will soon be cashing in all our chips in Vancouver (before the crash) and finding a
new (much cheaper) home base from which to launch our RV adventures. My wife is pretty much leaving
all the details up to me. She is in agreement with every idea I pitch, which is a little scary, but
one of the reasons I love her. She has always been game for almost anything.
> 
> I have tried to keep a totally open mind. We could stay in Vancouver, or go literally anywhere in
Canada. We do want to stay in Canada (for at least 6 months a year) for the free lifetime
healthcare, which is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars to us. After all, I'm not an idiot.
> 
> Anyway, I think I have the location nailed down. There were about a dozen finalists, but I kept
coming back to the same place over and over until I finally had to declare it a winner. I don't want
to disclose the location just yet, but I can tell you that we will be getting an incredible bang for
our housing buck. Compared to Vancouver, it's absolutely mind boggling how big and cheap the houses
are there. They're practically free. We will definitely be living mortgage-free. We will also be in
an extremely strategic location offering excellent RV destinations within a day's drive (and beyond)
in almost every direction. It's on a large body of water, and has been acclaimed as one of the best
tourist destinations in Canada.
> 
> There's only one problem with this ostensible paradise. It's all white. Like, we're talking 99%+.
I don't know if I can handle living with all white people. My wife and I have always lived in a 
multicultural environment.
> 
> If any of you have ever had to live exclusively among white people for an extended period of time,
I'd love to hear any survival tips or other experiences you might have to share. Was it worth it?
Did you get bored? Did you find that the white people were less overtly racist with no minorities
around...or were they even worse??

Get some tips from 'pickle'. He lives in an all-white environment. He's surrounded by black people
but he can't see them. 

	
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On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 11:25:07 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

> Get some tips from 'pickle'. He lives in an all-white environment. He's >surrounded by black
people but he can't see them.

Tell me about it! Have you ever seen his Facebook friends page? It's whiter than a Romney family
reunion. 

	
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On Thursday, 28 December 2017 17:45:09 UTC, BillB  wrote:

> There's only one problem with this ostensible paradise. It's all white.

What, no high IQ Asian thugs? How ever will you cope (chortle) 

	
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On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 12:06:43 PM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:
> On Thursday, 28 December 2017 17:45:09 UTC, BillB  wrote:
> 
> > There's only one problem with this ostensible paradise. It's all white.
> 
> What, no high IQ Asian thugs? How ever will you cope (chortle)

Don't be so racist. While Vancouver is of course famous for its Asian gangs, as the Vancouver Sun
has pointed out, the baddest gang on the Lower Mainland is predominantly white.

"While the likes of the Red Scorpions, the Independent Soldiers and the UN are referred to as
mid-level players, police consider the Hells Angels a top-echelon criminal organization, seen in the
same light as the Mafia and the Big Circle gang.

"The Hells Angels have a highly structured hierarchy, with full-patch members at the top. Below are
prospects, hang­arounds, official friends and associates working their way through the ranks.

"The organization today has hundreds of chapters in more than 20 countries. It has a number of
established clubs in the Lower Mainland and a number of puppet clubs such as the Prince George-based
Renegades. However, new biker clubs linked to the Hells Angels have been sprouting up all over the
province recently, from Campbell River to Fort St. John, as the gang seeks to maintain its status." 

	
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On Thursday, 28 December 2017 20:34:22 UTC, BillB  wrote:
> On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 12:06:43 PM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:
> > On Thursday, 28 December 2017 17:45:09 UTC, BillB  wrote:
> > 
> > > There's only one problem with this ostensible paradise. It's all white.
> > 
> > What, no high IQ Asian thugs? How ever will you cope (chortle)
> 
> Don't be so racist. While Vancouver is of course famous for its Asian gangs, as the Vancouver Sun
has pointed out, the baddest gang on the Lower Mainland is predominantly white.

Duh..

Ontario	627,715 (4.7%)
Quebec 319,230 (4.0%)
Alberta 129,395 (3.3%)
British Columbia 43,500 (1.0%) <---
Manitoba 30,335 (2.4%)
Nova Scotia 21,915 (2.4%)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Canadians

So it seems that you're skipping from one location, where there are no blacks, to another.. where
there are _literally_ no blacks! Why is that Bill (if that's your real name)? 

	
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On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 12:54:45 PM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:
> On Thursday, 28 December 2017 20:34:22 UTC, BillB  wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 12:06:43 PM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:
> > > On Thursday, 28 December 2017 17:45:09 UTC, BillB  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > There's only one problem with this ostensible paradise. It's all white.
> > > 
> > > What, no high IQ Asian thugs? How ever will you cope (chortle)
> > 
> > Don't be so racist. While Vancouver is of course famous for its Asian gangs, as the Vancouver
Sun has pointed out, the baddest gang on the Lower Mainland is predominantly white.
> 
> Duh..
> 
> Ontario	627,715 (4.7%)
> Quebec 319,230 (4.0%)
> Alberta 129,395 (3.3%)
> British Columbia 43,500 (1.0%) <---
> Manitoba 30,335 (2.4%)
> Nova Scotia 21,915 (2.4%)
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Canadians
> 
> So it seems that you're skipping from one location, where there are no blacks, to another.. where
there are _literally_ no blacks! Why is that Bill (if that's your real name)?

Ireland:

Ethnic groups 	
   96.4% White
    1.7% Asian
    1.1% Black
    0.8% Other
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland

Like I said- you MUST be a Zika baby.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zika_virus#/media/File:Microcephaly.jp 

	
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On Thursday, 28 December 2017 22:14:08 UTC, risky biz  wrote:

> Ireland:
> 
> Ethnic groups 	
>    96.4% White
>     1.7% Asian
>     1.1% Black https://tinyurl.com/yb6ple4m
>     0.8% Other
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland

Not that I would believe that only 4% of the people living in Ireland are non-white.. in the current
year (mainly because I have two eyes in my head and I live here too), but I would like to know what
point you think you're making? *I* am not the one fleeing a location where there are few blacks.. to
one where there are literally NO blacks! That would be the Canadian dhimmi. 

	
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On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 2:35:27 PM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:
> On Thursday, 28 December 2017 22:14:08 UTC, risky biz  wrote:
> 
> > Ireland:
> > 
> > Ethnic groups 	
> >    96.4% White
> >     1.7% Asian
> >     1.1% Black https://tinyurl.com/yb6ple4m
> >     0.8% Other
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland
> 
> Not that I would believe that only 4% of the people living in Ireland are non-white.. in the
current year (mainly because I have two eyes in my head and I live here too), but I would like to
know what point you think you're making? *I* am not the one fleeing a location where there are few
blacks.. to one where there are literally NO blacks! That would be the Canadian dhimmi.

He never said that he was considering moving to a location where there are 'NO blacks'. He said he
was considering moving to a location which was 99+% white and that he was wondering if he could
handle that. Which is your basic problem - you can't read simple English or you can't say ANYTHING
without lying? 

	
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> He never said that he was considering moving to a location where there are 'NO blacks'.

"There's only one problem with this ostensible paradise. It's all white." - Billb 

	
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On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 9:16:45 PM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:
> On Friday, 29 December 2017 05:11:50 UTC, risky biz  wrote:
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> > He never said that he was considering moving to a location where there are 'NO blacks'.
> 
> "There's only one problem with this ostensible paradise. It's all white." - Billb

That's obviously only part of what he said and your editing of the context only proves my point.
Yes, no doubt about it- Zika baby. 

	
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>On Thursday, 28 December 2017 20:34:22 UTC, BillB  wrote:
>> On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 12:06:43 PM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:
>> > On Thursday, 28 December 2017 17:45:09 UTC, BillB  wrote:
>> > 
>> > > There's only one problem with this ostensible paradise. It's all white.
>> > 
>> > What, no high IQ Asian thugs? How ever will you cope (chortle)
>> 
>> Don't be so racist. While Vancouver is of course famous for its Asian gangs, as the Vancouver Sun
has pointed out, the baddest gang on the Lower Mainland is predominantly white.
>
>Duh..
>
>Ontario	627,715 (4.7%)
>Quebec 319,230 (4.0%)
>Alberta 129,395 (3.3%)
>British Columbia 43,500 (1.0%) <---
>Manitoba 30,335 (2.4%)
>Nova Scotia 21,915 (2.4%)
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Canadians
>
>So it seems that you're skipping from one location, where there are no blacks, to another.. where
there are _literally_ no blacks! Why is that Bill (if that's your real name)?

He calls people gullible, and anyone who can't see what a raving
racist he really is, really is gullible. 

	
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> On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 12:54:38 -0800 (PST), fffurken
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> >On Thursday, 28 December 2017 20:34:22 UTC, BillB  wrote:
> >> On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 12:06:43 PM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:
> >> > On Thursday, 28 December 2017 17:45:09 UTC, BillB  wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > > There's only one problem with this ostensible paradise. It's all white.
> >> > 
> >> > What, no high IQ Asian thugs? How ever will you cope (chortle)
> >> 
> >> Don't be so racist. While Vancouver is of course famous for its Asian gangs, as the Vancouver
Sun has pointed out, the baddest gang on the Lower Mainland is predominantly white.
> >
> >Duh..
> >
> >Ontario	627,715 (4.7%)
> >Quebec 319,230 (4.0%)
> >Alberta 129,395 (3.3%)
> >British Columbia 43,500 (1.0%) <---
> >Manitoba 30,335 (2.4%)
> >Nova Scotia 21,915 (2.4%)
> >
> >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Canadians
> >
> >So it seems that you're skipping from one location, where there are no blacks, to another.. where
there are _literally_ no blacks! Why is that Bill (if that's your real name)?
> 
> He calls people gullible, and anyone who can't see what a raving
> racist he really is, really is gullible.

'vanek', the anti-racist. That's rich. 

	
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> > On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 12:06:43 PM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:
> > > On Thursday, 28 December 2017 17:45:09 UTC, BillB  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > There's only one problem with this ostensible paradise. It's all white.
> > > 
> > > What, no high IQ Asian thugs? How ever will you cope (chortle)
> > 
> > Don't be so racist. While Vancouver is of course famous for its Asian gangs, as the Vancouver
Sun has pointed out, the baddest gang on the Lower Mainland is predominantly white.
> 
> Duh..

Exactly. You once again jerked your knee to "blame the minorities" when in fact it is once again the
white people who are the REAL problem. Dutch does the same thing. He complains about Muslim
treatment of women when he is literally drowning in a sea of white Christian misogyny. 
 
> Ontario	627,715 (4.7%)
> Quebec 319,230 (4.0%)
> Alberta 129,395 (3.3%)
> British Columbia 43,500 (1.0%) <---
> Manitoba 30,335 (2.4%)
> Nova Scotia 21,915 (2.4%)
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Canadians
 
> So it seems that you're skipping from one location, where there are no blacks, to another.. where
there are _literally_ no blacks! Why is that Bill (if that's >your real name)?

Wow..your IQ is so low it must be in the negative numbers. Canada does not have a lot of black
people, the same way Mississippi doesn't have a lot of Inuit. If an Alabama native moves from
Birmingham to Tuscaloosa, does that mean he dislikes Inuit? That's how retarded your "logic" is.

I was very clear about my primary reasons for staying in Canada (not to mention the fact that I am a
 natural born Canadian citizen, and Canada is widely recognized as one of the best countries in the
world in which to live). My reasons for staying in Canada have as much to do with black people as
they have to do with the price of tea in China. Also, I was also very clear that, from my
perspective, the major PROBLEM with the place I have chosen is that it is not multicultural.
Obviously Canada would be much better off if it had more black people (and Muslims)(and black
Muslims). You can never be multicultural enough, but we can't MAKE people move here. I think there
is a perception among many black people that Canada is just too cold...at least I have heard that
comment from African-Americans more than a few times.. 

	
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> white people who are the REAL problem...

lol Says it all about you

> Canada is widely recognized as one of the best countries in the world in which to live

Whose "fault" is that Bill (of that's your real name)? Do you realise that if you continue down this
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On Friday, 29 December 2017 05:53:33 UTC, fffurken  wrote:
> On Friday, 29 December 2017 05:45:33 UTC, BillB  wrote:
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> > white people who are the REAL problem...
> 
> lol Says it all about you
> 
> > Canada is widely recognized as one of the best countries in the world in which to live
> 
> Whose "fault" is that Bill (of that's your real name)? Do you realise that if you continue down
this social engineering, multicultural project Canada mightn't be such a great to place to live?

^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db_13HSegzU 

	
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On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 9:53:33 PM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:
> On Friday, 29 December 2017 05:45:33 UTC, BillB  wrote:
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> > white people who are the REAL problem...
> 
> lol Says it all about you
> 

You don't agree with the Vancouver Sun newspaper article that it is the white gangs (not "Asian
thugs") who cause the most problem and concern for the police on the Lower Mainland?

Once again the facts get in the way of your childish and ignorant bigotry.

Why are  bigots immune from facing facts? It's so frustrating. 

	
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On 12/28/2017 11:06 PM, BillB wrote:
> On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 9:53:33 PM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:
>> On Friday, 29 December 2017 05:45:33 UTC, BillB  wrote:
>>
>>> white people who are the REAL problem...
>>
>> lol Says it all about you
>>
> 
> You don't agree with the Vancouver Sun newspaper article that it is the white gangs (not "Asian
thugs") who cause the most problem and concern for the police on the Lower Mainland?
> 
> Once again the facts get in the way of your childish and ignorant bigotry.
> 
> Why are  bigots immune from facing facts? It's so frustrating.
> 

You are so predictably full of shit. 

	
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On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 1:06:41 AM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
> On 12/28/2017 11:06 PM, BillB wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 9:53:33 PM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:
> >> On Friday, 29 December 2017 05:45:33 UTC, BillB  wrote:
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> >>> white people who are the REAL problem...
> >>
> >> lol Says it all about you
> >>
> > 
> > You don't agree with the Vancouver Sun newspaper article that it is the white gangs (not "Asian
thugs") who cause the most problem and concern for the police on the Lower Mainland?
> > 
> > Once again the facts get in the way of your childish and ignorant bigotry.
> > 
> > Why are  bigots immune from facing facts? It's so frustrating.
> > 
> 
> You are so predictably full of shit.

Dutch, if you don't have anything remotely intelligent to say, kindly stay out of my threads. Why
don't you and furking go jerk each other off in a sandbox somewhere? 

	
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> On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 1:06:41 AM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
>> On 12/28/2017 11:06 PM, BillB wrote:
>>> On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 9:53:33 PM UTC-8, fffurken wrote:
>>>> On Friday, 29 December 2017 05:45:33 UTC, BillB  wrote:
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>>>>> white people who are the REAL problem...
>>>>
>>>> lol Says it all about you
>>>>
>>>
>>> You don't agree with the Vancouver Sun newspaper article that it is the white gangs (not "Asian
thugs") who cause the most problem and concern for the police on the Lower Mainland?
>>>
>>> Once again the facts get in the way of your childish and ignorant bigotry.
>>>
>>> Why are  bigots immune from facing facts? It's so frustrating.
>>>
>>
>> You are so predictably full of shit.
> 
> Dutch, if you don't have anything remotely intelligent to say, kindly stay out of my threads. Why
don't you and furking go jerk each other off in a sandbox somewhere?
> 

I guess I don't have the brains to make fancy jerking off comments like you. 

	
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> > Dutch, if you don't have anything remotely intelligent to say, kindly stay out of my threads.
Why don't you and furking go jerk each other off in a sandbox somewhere?
> > 
> 
> I guess I don't have the brains to make fancy jerking off comments like you.

I am not asking you to even try to approximate the level of with, intelligence and creativity that
go into each of my posts. That would be ridiculous and impossible. All I am asking is that you
ATTEMPT to exhibit at least an iota, a glimmer of intelligence -- if you must clutter up my threads
with your unwell thought out comments. 

	
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> 
>>> Dutch, if you don't have anything remotely intelligent to say, kindly stay out of my threads.
Why don't you and furking go jerk each other off in a sandbox somewhere?
>>>
>>
>> I guess I don't have the brains to make fancy jerking off comments like you.
> 
> I am not asking you to even try to approximate the level of with, intelligence and creativity that
go into each of my posts. That would be ridiculous and impossible. All I am asking is that you
ATTEMPT to exhibit at least an iota, a glimmer of intelligence -- if you must clutter up my threads
with your unwell thought out comments.

GLWT 

	
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> GLWT

NGCFC 

	
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> On 12/29/2017 1:43 AM, BillB wrote:
>> On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 1:23:24 AM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
>>
>>>> Dutch, if you don't have anything remotely intelligent to say, 
>>>> kindly stay out of my threads. Why don't you and furking go jerk 
>>>> each other off in a sandbox somewhere?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I guess I don't have the brains to make fancy jerking off comments 
>>> like you.
>>
>> I am not asking you to even try to approximate the level of with, 
>> intelligence and creativity that go into each of my posts. That would 
>> be ridiculous and impossible. All I am asking is that you ATTEMPT to 
>> exhibit at least an iota, a glimmer of intelligence -- if you must 
>> clutter up my threads with your unwell thought out comments.
> 
> GLWT

sluuuuuuuuuuurrrp 

	
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> On 12/29/2017 1:44 AM, Clave wrote:
> > On 12/29/2017 1:43 AM, BillB wrote:
> >> On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 1:23:24 AM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Dutch, if you don't have anything remotely intelligent to say, 
> >>>> kindly stay out of my threads. Why don't you and furking go jerk 
> >>>> each other off in a sandbox somewhere?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I guess I don't have the brains to make fancy jerking off comments 
> >>> like you.
> >>
> >> I am not asking you to even try to approximate the level of with, 
> >> intelligence and creativity that go into each of my posts. That would 
> >> be ridiculous and impossible. All I am asking is that you ATTEMPT to 
> >> exhibit at least an iota, a glimmer of intelligence -- if you must 
> >> clutter up my threads with your unwell thought out comments.
> > 
> > GLWT
> 
> sluuuuuuuuuuurrrp

Do you think that displays an iota of intelligence? 

	
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> On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 1:55:18 AM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
>> On 12/29/2017 1:44 AM, Clave wrote:
>>> On 12/29/2017 1:43 AM, BillB wrote:
>>>> On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 1:23:24 AM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Dutch, if you don't have anything remotely intelligent to say,
>>>>>> kindly stay out of my threads. Why don't you and furking go jerk
>>>>>> each other off in a sandbox somewhere?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess I don't have the brains to make fancy jerking off comments
>>>>> like you.
>>>>
>>>> I am not asking you to even try to approximate the level of with,
>>>> intelligence and creativity that go into each of my posts. That would
>>>> be ridiculous and impossible. All I am asking is that you ATTEMPT to
>>>> exhibit at least an iota, a glimmer of intelligence -- if you must
>>>> clutter up my threads with your unwell thought out comments.
>>>
>>> GLWT
>>
>> sluuuuuuuuuuurrrp
> 
> Do you think that displays an iota of intelligence?
> 

Maybe an iota.. does repeating the Thai teen smear for the 10,000 time 
display an iota of intelligence? 

	
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On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 1:20:58 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
> On 12/29/2017 11:17 AM, risky biz wrote:
> > On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 1:55:18 AM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
> >> On 12/29/2017 1:44 AM, Clave wrote:
> >>> On 12/29/2017 1:43 AM, BillB wrote:
> >>>> On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 1:23:24 AM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Dutch, if you don't have anything remotely intelligent to say,
> >>>>>> kindly stay out of my threads. Why don't you and furking go jerk
> >>>>>> each other off in a sandbox somewhere?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I guess I don't have the brains to make fancy jerking off comments
> >>>>> like you.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am not asking you to even try to approximate the level of with,
> >>>> intelligence and creativity that go into each of my posts. That would
> >>>> be ridiculous and impossible. All I am asking is that you ATTEMPT to
> >>>> exhibit at least an iota, a glimmer of intelligence -- if you must
> >>>> clutter up my threads with your unwell thought out comments.
> >>>
> >>> GLWT
> >>
> >> sluuuuuuuuuuurrrp
> > 
> > Do you think that displays an iota of intelligence?
> > 
> 
> Maybe an iota.. does repeating the Thai teen smear for the 10,000 time 
> display an iota of intelligence?

Does describing someone's own words as a smear display an iota of intelligence? LOL. What a dope. 

'dutch' trying to preserve the credibility of the tool he's trying to use to establish his identity
of 'furkedon-lite'.


'And then in Thailand I discovered that an abundance of sex didn't have to
involve complications, like human relations. And so began a well over
decade long stint of whoremongering in that country.

I had more than 10 years of sex tours in Thailand'
fffurken   9/21/15    'How to get an invite to the White House and a few days off from school' thread
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/rec.gambling.poker/S1gCfw...

THREE WEEKS LATER: 'I've never been on a Thai sex tour in my life, those were your words, I went
there on holiday, and had a good time.'
fffurken   10/13/15      'Ben Carson comes out as Islamophobe on national TV' thread

THREE MONTHS LATER: "I've never been on a Thai "sex tour" in my life, those were your words, because
you wanted to paint me in a bad light"
fffurken   1/16/16   ''furkedon' calling out 'Joe Camel'' thread

AND THEN IN THE SAME THREAD IN THE FACE OF QUOTES OF HIS OWN WORDS: I've admitted that I'm a drunk,
functioning I would say as I have a job and I pay my bills and so on, and I've admitted that I went
on Thai "sex tours" for more than a decade. And I wanted to do that.
'furkedon'  1/16/16  ''furkedon' calling out 'Joe Camel'' thread

Risky Biz: 'The really disgusting part about it is that you initially thought you would be admired
for whoring in the child sex capital of the world.'

'fffurken'  9/14/16  'Real Poker Question' thread: 'Of course I should be admired for being a stud .
.'
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.gambling.poker/FdxIHFY6pes/-wHlS...

"Child sex tourism has been closely linked to poverty, armed conflicts, rapid industrialization, and
exploding population growth.[8] In Latin America and Southeast Asia, for instance, street children
often turn to prostitution as a last resort. Additionally, vulnerable children are easy targets for
exploitation by traffickers.[8]

Thailand, Cambodia, India, Brazil and Mexico have been identified as leading hotspots of child
sexual exploitation.[9]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sex_tourism

"Thailand isn't the paedophile capital of the world, stop lying."
fffurken  10/16/16  'RGP stats' thread

Thailand has one of the largest child sex trade operations in Southeast Asia. UNICEF estimates the
number of Thai children involved in prostitution to be between 60,000 and 200,000, though the
organization says the exact number is difficult to track.

The Europeans and Americans who go to Southeast Asia as 'sex tourists' often rationalize having sex
with children with the idea that 'they are helping the children financially better themselves and
their families,' Nair said. 'Paying a child for his or her services allows a tourist to avoid guilt
by convincing himself he is helping the child and the child's family to escape economic hardship.'

Other tourists try to justify their behavior by believing children in foreign countries are less
'sexually inhibited.' Nair said tourists convince themselves 'those countries don't have the same
social taboos against having sex with children.'
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2325416&page=1

'I think you'd be hardpressed to find anyone more 'expert' on Thailand
nightlife than me . .'
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.gambling.poker/subjec...

'I've been in Thailand more times than I know of and despite that I've only been on Phuket once, on
my virginal trip (Bangkok and Pattaya was
my regime).'
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rec.gambling.poker/subjec... 

	
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>> Maybe an iota.. does repeating the Thai teen smear for the 10,000 time
>> display an iota of intelligence?
> 
> Does describing someone's own words as a smear display an iota of intelligence? LOL. What a dope.

The short answer.. no. Repeating the same charge 10,000 times displays 
desperation and lack of imagination, not intelligence. 

	
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> On 12/29/2017 1:37 PM, risky biz wrote:
> > On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 1:20:58 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
> 
> >> Maybe an iota.. does repeating the Thai teen smear for the 10,000 time
> >> display an iota of intelligence?
> > 
> > Does describing someone's own words as a smear display an iota of intelligence? LOL. What a dope.
> 
> The short answer.. no. 

I'm glad we cleared that up.

Repeating the same charge 10,000 times displays 
> desperation and lack of imagination, not intelligence.

I guess you posting LIES about Muslims which you cut and paste from creepy, right-wing, Islamophobic
websites displays an abundance of imagination in your opinion, then? 

	
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On 12/29/2017 8:33 PM, risky biz wrote:
> On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 6:57:48 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
>> On 12/29/2017 1:37 PM, risky biz wrote:
>>> On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 1:20:58 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
>>
>>>> Maybe an iota.. does repeating the Thai teen smear for the 10,000 time
>>>> display an iota of intelligence?
>>>
>>> Does describing someone's own words as a smear display an iota of intelligence? LOL. What a dope.
>>
>> The short answer.. no.
> 
> I'm glad we cleared that up.

Does that mean we don't have to hear that same tired narrative over and 
over and over in the future every time you have nothing worthwhile to say?
> 
> Repeating the same charge 10,000 times displays
>> desperation and lack of imagination, not intelligence.
> 
> I guess you posting LIES about Muslims which you cut and paste from creepy, right-wing,
Islamophobic websites displays an abundance of imagination in your opinion, then?
> 

I didn't post any lies. 

	
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On Saturday, 30 December 2017 21:08:14 UTC, Dutch  wrote:
> On 12/29/2017 8:33 PM, risky biz wrote:
> > On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 6:57:48 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
> >> On 12/29/2017 1:37 PM, risky biz wrote:
> >>> On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 1:20:58 PM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Maybe an iota.. does repeating the Thai teen smear for the 10,000 time
> >>>> display an iota of intelligence?
> >>>
> >>> Does describing someone's own words as a smear display an iota of intelligence? LOL. What a
dope.
> >>
> >> The short answer.. no.
> > 
> > I'm glad we cleared that up.
> 
> Does that mean we don't have to hear that same tired narrative over and 
> over and over in the future every time you have nothing worthwhile to say?

No that's not what he meant (hint: he's still slandering me) 

	
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> I am not asking you to even try to approximate the level of with [sic], intelligence and
creativity that go into each of my posts...

We know what it is, it's zero 

	
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>>> Dutch, if you don't have anything remotely intelligent to say, kindly stay out of my threads.
Why don't you and furking go jerk each other off in a sandbox somewhere?
>>>
>>
>> I guess I don't have the brains to make fancy jerking off comments like you.
> 
> I am not asking you to even try to approximate the level of with, intelligence and creativity that
go into each of my posts. That would be ridiculous and impossible. All I am asking is that you
ATTEMPT to exhibit at least an iota, a glimmer of intelligence -- if you must clutter up my threads
with your unwell thought out comments.
> 

Wow, there's 15 seconds I'll never get back. 

	
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> Wow, there's 15 seconds I'll never get back.

It shouldn't take you that long to read a Billb post, although admittedly I am quite good at
skimming (for relevance). So I can toss the whole thing (or about 90% of it) on the dung heap where
it belongs.. with all the rest of them.. within a few seconds. 

	
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> On Friday, 29 December 2017 05:45:33 UTC, BillB  wrote:
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>> white people who are the REAL problem...
> 
> lol Says it all about you
> 
>> Canada is widely recognized as one of the best countries in the world in which to live
> 
> Whose "fault" is that Bill (of that's your real name)? Do you realise that if you continue down
this social engineering, multicultural project Canada mightn't be such a great to place to live?
> 

It's the weather.. 

	
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> If you read my posts you know my wife and I are starting to prepare for a semi-retirement
lifestyle. We will soon be cashing in all our chips in Vancouver (before the crash) and finding a
new (much cheaper) home base from which to launch our RV adventures. My wife is pretty much leaving
all the details up to me. She is in agreement with every idea I pitch, which is a little scary, but
one of the reasons I love her. She has always been game for almost anything.
> 
> I have tried to keep a totally open mind. We could stay in Vancouver, or go literally anywhere in
Canada. We do want to stay in Canada (for at least 6 months a year) for the free lifetime
healthcare, which is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars to us. After all, I'm not an idiot.
> 
> Anyway, I think I have the location nailed down. There were about a dozen finalists, but I kept
coming back to the same place over and over until I finally had to declare it a winner. I don't want
to disclose the location just yet, but I can tell you that we will be getting an incredible bang for
our housing buck. Compared to Vancouver, it's absolutely mind boggling how big and cheap the houses
are there. They're practically free. We will definitely be living mortgage-free. We will also be in
an extremely strategic location offering excellent RV destinations within a day's drive (and beyond)
in almost every direction. It's on a large body of water, and has been acclaimed as one of the best
tourist destinations in Canada.
> 
> There's only one problem with this ostensible paradise. It's all white. Like, we're talking 99%+.
I don't know if I can handle living with all white people. My wife and I have always lived in a 
multicultural environment.
> 
> If any of you have ever had to live exclusively among white people for an extended period of time,
I'd love to hear any survival tips or other experiences you might have to share. Was it worth it?
Did you get bored? Did you find that the white people were less overtly racist with no minorities
around...or were they even worse??

In effect, that’s what we did here. Retired from Vancouver (Washington); moved to Vegas, cashed in
all the funds (about 6 months before the crash); paid off everything; bought a motorhome (second
one), and would leave Vegas for three months at a time. (Second trip on, attached a car to the
back). Eventually sold the MH and live the Vegas life style: Patio, pool, BBQ – got rid of the hot
tub; and occasionally ‘do the strip,’ and wine and dine. Like this last week when the kids came
for xmas from Atlanta.  

As to living in white-only, we lived in Bishop, CA for 7-years and never notice it being a problem
not having any blacks. We did have Mexicans and Indians, but, no big deal. I don’t believe
you’ll find yourself crippled, not have a percentage-based racial population. 

	
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> On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 9:45:09 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
> > If you read my posts you know my wife and I are starting to prepare for a semi-retirement
lifestyle. We will soon be cashing in all our chips in Vancouver (before the crash) and finding a
new (much cheaper) home base from which to launch our RV adventures. My wife is pretty much leaving
all the details up to me. She is in agreement with every idea I pitch, which is a little scary, but
one of the reasons I love her. She has always been game for almost anything.
> > 
> > I have tried to keep a totally open mind. We could stay in Vancouver, or go literally anywhere
in Canada. We do want to stay in Canada (for at least 6 months a year) for the free lifetime
healthcare, which is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars to us. After all, I'm not an idiot.
> > 
> > Anyway, I think I have the location nailed down. There were about a dozen finalists, but I kept
coming back to the same place over and over until I finally had to declare it a winner. I don't want
to disclose the location just yet, but I can tell you that we will be getting an incredible bang for
our housing buck. Compared to Vancouver, it's absolutely mind boggling how big and cheap the houses
are there. They're practically free. We will definitely be living mortgage-free. We will also be in
an extremely strategic location offering excellent RV destinations within a day's drive (and beyond)
in almost every direction. It's on a large body of water, and has been acclaimed as one of the best
tourist destinations in Canada.
> > 
> > There's only one problem with this ostensible paradise. It's all white. Like, we're talking
99%+. I don't know if I can handle living with all white people. My wife and I have always lived in
a  multicultural environment.
> > 
> > If any of you have ever had to live exclusively among white people for an extended period of
time, I'd love to hear any survival tips or other experiences you might have to share. Was it worth
it? Did you get bored? Did you find that the white people were less overtly racist with no
minorities around...or were they even worse??
> 
> In effect, that’s what we did here. Retired from Vancouver (Washington); moved to Vegas, cashed
in all the funds (about 6 months before the crash); paid off everything; bought a motorhome (second
one), and would leave Vegas for three months at a time. (Second trip on, attached a car to the
back). Eventually sold the MH and live the Vegas life style: Patio, pool, BBQ – got rid of the hot
tub; and occasionally ‘do the strip,’ and wine and dine. Like this last week when the kids came
for xmas from Atlanta.  
> 
> As to living in white-only, we lived in Bishop, CA for 7-years and never notice it being a problem
not having any blacks. We did have Mexicans and Indians, but, no big deal. I don’t believe
you’ll find yourself crippled, not >have a percentage-based racial population.

If I was an American, Vegas would definitely be a finalist for us. Reasonably priced housing, mild
winter weather, good tourism draw, low tax jurisdiction, endless food and entertainment options, an
acceptable level of multiculturalism (albeit with some faux multiculturalism), and strategically
located as a good RVing home base. Points against it is it's in the desert, it's not on the ocean,
and it's not very pretty to look at. 

	
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On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 10:22:39 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
> On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 12:48:37 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 9:45:09 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
> > > If you read my posts you know my wife and I are starting to prepare for a semi-retirement
lifestyle. We will soon be cashing in all our chips in Vancouver (before the crash) and finding a
new (much cheaper) home base from which to launch our RV adventures. My wife is pretty much leaving
all the details up to me. She is in agreement with every idea I pitch, which is a little scary, but
one of the reasons I love her. She has always been game for almost anything.
> > > 
> > > I have tried to keep a totally open mind. We could stay in Vancouver, or go literally anywhere
in Canada. We do want to stay in Canada (for at least 6 months a year) for the free lifetime
healthcare, which is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars to us. After all, I'm not an idiot.
> > > 
> > > Anyway, I think I have the location nailed down. There were about a dozen finalists, but I
kept coming back to the same place over and over until I finally had to declare it a winner. I don't
want to disclose the location just yet, but I can tell you that we will be getting an incredible
bang for our housing buck. Compared to Vancouver, it's absolutely mind boggling how big and cheap
the houses are there. They're practically free. We will definitely be living mortgage-free. We will
also be in an extremely strategic location offering excellent RV destinations within a day's drive
(and beyond) in almost every direction. It's on a large body of water, and has been acclaimed as one
of the best tourist destinations in Canada.
> > > 
> > > There's only one problem with this ostensible paradise. It's all white. Like, we're talking
99%+. I don't know if I can handle living with all white people. My wife and I have always lived in
a  multicultural environment.
> > > 
> > > If any of you have ever had to live exclusively among white people for an extended period of
time, I'd love to hear any survival tips or other experiences you might have to share. Was it worth
it? Did you get bored? Did you find that the white people were less overtly racist with no
minorities around...or were they even worse??
> > 
> > In effect, that’s what we did here. Retired from Vancouver (Washington); moved to Vegas,
cashed in all the funds (about 6 months before the crash); paid off everything; bought a motorhome
(second one), and would leave Vegas for three months at a time. (Second trip on, attached a car to
the back). Eventually sold the MH and live the Vegas life style: Patio, pool, BBQ – got rid of the
hot tub; and occasionally ‘do the strip,’ and wine and dine. Like this last week when the kids
came for xmas from Atlanta.  
> > 
> > As to living in white-only, we lived in Bishop, CA for 7-years and never notice it being a
problem not having any blacks. We did have Mexicans and Indians, but, no big deal. I don’t believe
you’ll find yourself crippled, not >have a percentage-based racial population.
> 
> If I was an American, Vegas would definitely be a finalist for us. Reasonably priced housing, mild
winter weather, good tourism draw, low tax jurisdiction, endless food and entertainment options, an
acceptable level of multiculturalism (albeit with some faux multiculturalism), and strategically
located as a good RVing home base. Points against it is it's in the desert, it's not on the ocean,
and it's not very pretty to look at.

That's pretty much how we saw/see it.

Jerry (not seesawing) 'n Vegas 

	
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On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 10:22:39 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
> On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 12:48:37 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 9:45:09 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
> > > If you read my posts you know my wife and I are starting to prepare for a semi-retirement
lifestyle. We will soon be cashing in all our chips in Vancouver (before the crash) and finding a
new (much cheaper) home base from which to launch our RV adventures. My wife is pretty much leaving
all the details up to me. She is in agreement with every idea I pitch, which is a little scary, but
one of the reasons I love her. She has always been game for almost anything.
> > > 
> > > I have tried to keep a totally open mind. We could stay in Vancouver, or go literally anywhere
in Canada. We do want to stay in Canada (for at least 6 months a year) for the free lifetime
healthcare, which is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars to us. After all, I'm not an idiot.
> > > 
> > > Anyway, I think I have the location nailed down. There were about a dozen finalists, but I
kept coming back to the same place over and over until I finally had to declare it a winner. I don't
want to disclose the location just yet, but I can tell you that we will be getting an incredible
bang for our housing buck. Compared to Vancouver, it's absolutely mind boggling how big and cheap
the houses are there. They're practically free. We will definitely be living mortgage-free. We will
also be in an extremely strategic location offering excellent RV destinations within a day's drive
(and beyond) in almost every direction. It's on a large body of water, and has been acclaimed as one
of the best tourist destinations in Canada.
> > > 
> > > There's only one problem with this ostensible paradise. It's all white. Like, we're talking
99%+. I don't know if I can handle living with all white people. My wife and I have always lived in
a  multicultural environment.
> > > 
> > > If any of you have ever had to live exclusively among white people for an extended period of
time, I'd love to hear any survival tips or other experiences you might have to share. Was it worth
it? Did you get bored? Did you find that the white people were less overtly racist with no
minorities around...or were they even worse??
> > 
> > In effect, that’s what we did here. Retired from Vancouver (Washington); moved to Vegas,
cashed in all the funds (about 6 months before the crash); paid off everything; bought a motorhome
(second one), and would leave Vegas for three months at a time. (Second trip on, attached a car to
the back). Eventually sold the MH and live the Vegas life style: Patio, pool, BBQ – got rid of the
hot tub; and occasionally ‘do the strip,’ and wine and dine. Like this last week when the kids
came for xmas from Atlanta.  
> > 
> > As to living in white-only, we lived in Bishop, CA for 7-years and never notice it being a
problem not having any blacks. We did have Mexicans and Indians, but, no big deal. I don’t believe
you’ll find yourself crippled, not >have a percentage-based racial population.
> 
> If I was an American, Vegas would definitely be a finalist for us. Reasonably priced housing, mild
winter weather, good tourism draw, low tax jurisdiction, endless food and entertainment options, an
acceptable level of multiculturalism (albeit with some faux multiculturalism), and strategically
located as a good RVing home base. Points against it is it's in the desert, it's not on the ocean,
and it's not very pretty to look at.

Being in the desert is great. I do miss sea kayaking, though. The biggest plus is that it's in a
different country than 'dutch' and 'furkedon', the evil dunderhead twins. 

	
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On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 1:22:39 AM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
> On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 12:48:37 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 9:45:09 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
> > > If you read my posts you know my wife and I are starting to prepare for a semi-retirement
lifestyle. We will soon be cashing in all our chips in Vancouver (before the crash) and finding a
new (much cheaper) home base from which to launch our RV adventures. My wife is pretty much leaving
all the details up to me. She is in agreement with every idea I pitch, which is a little scary, but
one of the reasons I love her. She has always been game for almost anything.
> > > 
> > > I have tried to keep a totally open mind. We could stay in Vancouver, or go literally anywhere
in Canada. We do want to stay in Canada (for at least 6 months a year) for the free lifetime
healthcare, which is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars to us. After all, I'm not an idiot.
> > > 
> > > Anyway, I think I have the location nailed down. There were about a dozen finalists, but I
kept coming back to the same place over and over until I finally had to declare it a winner. I don't
want to disclose the location just yet, but I can tell you that we will be getting an incredible
bang for our housing buck. Compared to Vancouver, it's absolutely mind boggling how big and cheap
the houses are there. They're practically free. We will definitely be living mortgage-free. We will
also be in an extremely strategic location offering excellent RV destinations within a day's drive
(and beyond) in almost every direction. It's on a large body of water, and has been acclaimed as one
of the best tourist destinations in Canada.
> > > 
> > > There's only one problem with this ostensible paradise. It's all white. Like, we're talking
99%+. I don't know if I can handle living with all white people. My wife and I have always lived in
a  multicultural environment.
> > > 
> > > If any of you have ever had to live exclusively among white people for an extended period of
time, I'd love to hear any survival tips or other experiences you might have to share. Was it worth
it? Did you get bored? Did you find that the white people were less overtly racist with no
minorities around...or were they even worse??
> > 
> > In effect, that’s what we did here. Retired from Vancouver (Washington); moved to Vegas,
cashed in all the funds (about 6 months before the crash); paid off everything; bought a motorhome
(second one), and would leave Vegas for three months at a time. (Second trip on, attached a car to
the back). Eventually sold the MH and live the Vegas life style: Patio, pool, BBQ – got rid of the
hot tub; and occasionally ‘do the strip,’ and wine and dine. Like this last week when the kids
came for xmas from Atlanta.  
> > 
> > As to living in white-only, we lived in Bishop, CA for 7-years and never notice it being a
problem not having any blacks. We did have Mexicans and Indians, but, no big deal. I don’t believe
you’ll find yourself crippled, not >have a percentage-based racial population.
> 
> If I was an American, Vegas would definitely be a finalist for us. Reasonably priced housing, mild
winter weather, good tourism draw, low tax jurisdiction, endless food and entertainment options, an
acceptable level of multiculturalism (albeit with some faux multiculturalism), and strategically
located as a good RVing home base. Points against it is it's in the desert, it's not on the ocean,
and it's not very pretty to look at.

Have you been there in August? 

	
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>On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 1:22:39 AM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
>> On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 12:48:37 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
>> > On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 9:45:09 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
>> > > If you read my posts you know my wife and I are starting to prepare for a semi-retirement
lifestyle. We will soon be cashing in all our chips in Vancouver (before the crash) and finding a
new (much cheaper) home base from which to launch our RV adventures. My wife is pretty much leaving
all the details up to me. She is in agreement with every idea I pitch, which is a little scary, but
one of the reasons I love her. She has always been game for almost anything.
>> > > 
>> > > I have tried to keep a totally open mind. We could stay in Vancouver, or go literally
anywhere in Canada. We do want to stay in Canada (for at least 6 months a year) for the free
lifetime healthcare, which is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars to us. After all, I'm not an
idiot.
>> > > 
>> > > Anyway, I think I have the location nailed down. There were about a dozen finalists, but I
kept coming back to the same place over and over until I finally had to declare it a winner. I don't
want to disclose the location just yet, but I can tell you that we will be getting an incredible
bang for our housing buck. Compared to Vancouver, it's absolutely mind boggling how big and cheap
the houses are there. They're practically free. We will definitely be living mortgage-free. We will
also be in an extremely strategic location offering excellent RV destinations within a day's drive
(and beyond) in almost every direction. It's on a large body of water, and has been acclaimed as one
of the best tourist destinations in Canada.
>> > > 
>> > > There's only one problem with this ostensible paradise. It's all white. Like, we're talking
99%+. I don't know if I can handle living with all white people. My wife and I have always lived in
a  multicultural environment.
>> > > 
>> > > If any of you have ever had to live exclusively among white people for an extended period of
time, I'd love to hear any survival tips or other experiences you might have to share. Was it worth
it? Did you get bored? Did you find that the white people were less overtly racist with no
minorities around...or were they even worse??
>> > 
>> > In effect, that 

	
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> 
> >On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 1:22:39 AM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
> >> On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 12:48:37 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> >> > On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 9:45:09 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
> >> > > If you read my posts you know my wife and I are starting to prepare for a semi-retirement
lifestyle. We will soon be cashing in all our chips in Vancouver (before the crash) and finding a
new (much cheaper) home base from which to launch our RV adventures. My wife is pretty much leaving
all the details up to me. She is in agreement with every idea I pitch, which is a little scary, but
one of the reasons I love her. She has always been game for almost anything.
> >> > > 
> >> > > I have tried to keep a totally open mind. We could stay in Vancouver, or go literally
anywhere in Canada. We do want to stay in Canada (for at least 6 months a year) for the free
lifetime healthcare, which is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars to us. After all, I'm not an
idiot.
> >> > > 
> >> > > Anyway, I think I have the location nailed down. There were about a dozen finalists, but I
kept coming back to the same place over and over until I finally had to declare it a winner. I don't
want to disclose the location just yet, but I can tell you that we will be getting an incredible
bang for our housing buck. Compared to Vancouver, it's absolutely mind boggling how big and cheap
the houses are there. They're practically free. We will definitely be living mortgage-free. We will
also be in an extremely strategic location offering excellent RV destinations within a day's drive
(and beyond) in almost every direction. It's on a large body of water, and has been acclaimed as one
of the best tourist destinations in Canada.
> >> > > 
> >> > > There's only one problem with this ostensible paradise. It's all white. Like, we're talking
99%+. I don't know if I can handle living with all white people. My wife and I have always lived in
a  multicultural environment.
> >> > > 
> >> > > If any of you have ever had to live exclusively among white people for an extended period
of time, I'd love to hear any survival tips or other experiences you might have to share. Was it
worth it? Did you get bored? Did you find that the white people were less overtly racist with no
minorities around...or were they even worse??
> >> > 
> >> > In effect, that’s what we did here. Retired from Vancouver (Washington); moved to Vegas,
cashed in all the funds (about 6 months before the crash); paid off everything; bought a motorhome
(second one), and would leave Vegas for three months at a time. (Second trip on, attached a car to
the back). Eventually sold the MH and live the Vegas life style: Patio, pool, BBQ – got rid of the
hot tub; and occasionally ‘do the strip,’ and wine and dine. Like this last week when the kids
came for xmas from Atlanta.  
> >> > 
> >> > As to living in white-only, we lived in Bishop, CA for 7-years and never notice it being a
problem not having any blacks. We did have Mexicans and Indians, but, no big deal. I don’t believe
you’ll find yourself crippled, not >have a percentage-based racial population.
> >> 
> >> If I was an American, Vegas would definitely be a finalist for us. Reasonably priced housing,
mild winter weather, good tourism draw, low tax jurisdiction, endless food and entertainment
options, an acceptable level of multiculturalism (albeit with some faux multiculturalism), and
strategically located as a good RVing home base. Points against it is it's in the desert, it's not
on the ocean, and it's not very pretty to look at.
> >
> >Have you been there in August?
> 
> Wimp.

Probably true. My first visit there was in August 1991. I have never been so hot outside a sauna.

Besides, Bill is from Vancouver, and would likely notice it more than I did.. 

	
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>> On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 11:28:47 -0800 (PST), Tim Norfolk
>><timsn274@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 1:22:39 AM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 12:48:37 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 9:45:09 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
>>>>>> If you read my posts you know my wife and I are starting to prepare for a semi-retirement
lifestyle. We will soon be cashing in all our chips in Vancouver (before the crash) and finding a
new (much cheaper) home base from which to launch our RV adventures. My wife is pretty much leaving
all the details up to me. She is in agreement with every idea I pitch, which is a little scary, but
one of the reasons I love her. She has always been game for almost anything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have tried to keep a totally open mind. We could stay in Vancouver, or go literally
anywhere in Canada. We do want to stay in Canada (for at least 6 months a year) for the free
lifetime healthcare, which is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars to us. After all, I'm not an
idiot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, I think I have the location nailed down. There were about a dozen finalists, but I
kept coming back to the same place over and over until I finally had to declare it a winner. I don't
want to disclose the location just yet, but I can tell you that we will be getting an incredible
bang for our housing buck. Compared to Vancouver, it's absolutely mind boggling how big and cheap
the houses are there. They're practically free. We will definitely be living mortgage-free. We will
also be in an extremely strategic location offering excellent RV destinations within a day's drive
(and beyond) in almost every direction. It's on a large body of water, and has been acclaimed as one
of the best tourist destinations in Canada.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's only one problem with this ostensible paradise. It's all white. Like, we're talking
99%+. I don't know if I can handle living with all white people. My wife and I have always lived in
a  multicultural environment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If any of you have ever had to live exclusively among white people for an extended period of
time, I'd love to hear any survival tips or other experiences you might have to share. Was it worth
it? Did you get bored? Did you find that the white people were less overtly racist with no
minorities around...or were they even worse??
>>>>>
>>>>> In effect, that’s what we did here. Retired from Vancouver (Washington); moved to Vegas,
cashed in all the funds (about 6 months before the crash); paid off everything; bought a motorhome
(second one), and would leave Vegas for three months at a time. (Second trip on, attached a car to
the back). Eventually sold the MH and live the Vegas life style: Patio, pool, BBQ – got rid of the
hot tub; and occasionally ‘do the strip,’ and wine and dine. Like this last week when the kids
came for xmas from Atlanta.
>>>>>
>>>>> As to living in white-only, we lived in Bishop, CA for 7-years and never notice it being a
problem not having any blacks. We did have Mexicans and Indians, but, no big deal. I don’t believe
you’ll find yourself crippled, not >have a percentage-based racial population.
>>>>
>>>> If I was an American, Vegas would definitely be a finalist for us. Reasonably priced housing,
mild winter weather, good tourism draw, low tax jurisdiction, endless food and entertainment
options, an acceptable level of multiculturalism (albeit with some faux multiculturalism), and
strategically located as a good RVing home base. Points against it is it's in the desert, it's not
on the ocean, and it's not very pretty to look at.
>>>
>>> Have you been there in August?
>>
>> Wimp.
> 
> Probably true. My first visit there was in August 1991. I have never been so hot outside a sauna.

At least it's a dry heat. 

	
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> 
> At least it's a dry heat.


Oh fucking hilarious.  See what I mean?  And BillB says that Clave is witty.  Clave is a dud.  A
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> At least it's a dry heat.

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On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 2:57:19 AM UTC-5, Clave wrote:
> On 12/30/2017 11:07 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
> > On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 2:36:29 PM UTC-5, Bill Vanek wrote:
> >> On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 11:28:47 -0800 (PST), Tim Norfolk
> >><timsn274@aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 1:22:39 AM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
> >>>> On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 12:48:37 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 9:45:09 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
> >>>>>> If you read my posts you know my wife and I are starting to prepare for a semi-retirement
lifestyle. We will soon be cashing in all our chips in Vancouver (before the crash) and finding a
new (much cheaper) home base from which to launch our RV adventures. My wife is pretty much leaving
all the details up to me. She is in agreement with every idea I pitch, which is a little scary, but
one of the reasons I love her. She has always been game for almost anything.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have tried to keep a totally open mind. We could stay in Vancouver, or go literally
anywhere in Canada. We do want to stay in Canada (for at least 6 months a year) for the free
lifetime healthcare, which is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars to us. After all, I'm not an
idiot.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Anyway, I think I have the location nailed down. There were about a dozen finalists, but I
kept coming back to the same place over and over until I finally had to declare it a winner. I don't
want to disclose the location just yet, but I can tell you that we will be getting an incredible
bang for our housing buck. Compared to Vancouver, it's absolutely mind boggling how big and cheap
the houses are there. They're practically free. We will definitely be living mortgage-free. We will
also be in an extremely strategic location offering excellent RV destinations within a day's drive
(and beyond) in almost every direction. It's on a large body of water, and has been acclaimed as one
of the best tourist destinations in Canada.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There's only one problem with this ostensible paradise. It's all white. Like, we're talking
99%+. I don't know if I can handle living with all white people. My wife and I have always lived in
a  multicultural environment.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If any of you have ever had to live exclusively among white people for an extended period
of time, I'd love to hear any survival tips or other experiences you might have to share. Was it
worth it? Did you get bored? Did you find that the white people were less overtly racist with no
minorities around...or were they even worse??
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In effect, that’s what we did here. Retired from Vancouver (Washington); moved to Vegas,
cashed in all the funds (about 6 months before the crash); paid off everything; bought a motorhome
(second one), and would leave Vegas for three months at a time. (Second trip on, attached a car to
the back). Eventually sold the MH and live the Vegas life style: Patio, pool, BBQ – got rid of the
hot tub; and occasionally ‘do the strip,’ and wine and dine. Like this last week when the kids
came for xmas from Atlanta.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As to living in white-only, we lived in Bishop, CA for 7-years and never notice it being a
problem not having any blacks. We did have Mexicans and Indians, but, no big deal. I don’t believe
you’ll find yourself crippled, not >have a percentage-based racial population.
> >>>>
> >>>> If I was an American, Vegas would definitely be a finalist for us. Reasonably priced housing,
mild winter weather, good tourism draw, low tax jurisdiction, endless food and entertainment
options, an acceptable level of multiculturalism (albeit with some faux multiculturalism), and
strategically located as a good RVing home base. Points against it is it's in the desert, it's not
on the ocean, and it's not very pretty to look at.
> >>>
> >>> Have you been there in August?
> >>
> >> Wimp.
> > 
> > Probably true. My first visit there was in August 1991. I have never been so hot outside a sauna.
> 
> At least it's a dry heat.

Certainly true. My sinuses were desiccated when I left. 

	
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> On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 1:22:39 AM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 12:48:37 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> > > On Thursday, December 28, 2017 at 9:45:09 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
> > > > If you read my posts you know my wife and I are starting to prepare for a semi-retirement
lifestyle. We will soon be cashing in all our chips in Vancouver (before the crash) and finding a
new (much cheaper) home base from which to launch our RV adventures. My wife is pretty much leaving
all the details up to me. She is in agreement with every idea I pitch, which is a little scary, but
one of the reasons I love her. She has always been game for almost anything.
> > > > 
> > > > I have tried to keep a totally open mind. We could stay in Vancouver, or go literally
anywhere in Canada. We do want to stay in Canada (for at least 6 months a year) for the free
lifetime healthcare, which is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars to us. After all, I'm not an
idiot.
> > > > 
> > > > Anyway, I think I have the location nailed down. There were about a dozen finalists, but I
kept coming back to the same place over and over until I finally had to declare it a winner. I don't
want to disclose the location just yet, but I can tell you that we will be getting an incredible
bang for our housing buck. Compared to Vancouver, it's absolutely mind boggling how big and cheap
the houses are there. They're practically free. We will definitely be living mortgage-free. We will
also be in an extremely strategic location offering excellent RV destinations within a day's drive
(and beyond) in almost every direction. It's on a large body of water, and has been acclaimed as one
of the best tourist destinations in Canada.
> > > > 
> > > > There's only one problem with this ostensible paradise. It's all white. Like, we're talking
99%+. I don't know if I can handle living with all white people. My wife and I have always lived in
a  multicultural environment.
> > > > 
> > > > If any of you have ever had to live exclusively among white people for an extended period of
time, I'd love to hear any survival tips or other experiences you might have to share. Was it worth
it? Did you get bored? Did you find that the white people were less overtly racist with no
minorities around...or were they even worse??
> > > 
> > > In effect, that’s what we did here. Retired from Vancouver (Washington); moved to Vegas,
cashed in all the funds (about 6 months before the crash); paid off everything; bought a motorhome
(second one), and would leave Vegas for three months at a time. (Second trip on, attached a car to
the back). Eventually sold the MH and live the Vegas life style: Patio, pool, BBQ – got rid of the
hot tub; and occasionally ‘do the strip,’ and wine and dine. Like this last week when the kids
came for xmas from Atlanta.  
> > > 
> > > As to living in white-only, we lived in Bishop, CA for 7-years and never notice it being a
problem not having any blacks. We did have Mexicans and Indians, but, no big deal. I don’t believe
you’ll find yourself crippled, not >have a percentage-based racial population.
> > 
> > If I was an American, Vegas would definitely be a finalist for us. Reasonably priced housing,
mild winter weather, good tourism draw, low tax jurisdiction, endless food and entertainment
options, an acceptable level of multiculturalism (albeit with some faux multiculturalism), and
strategically located as a good RVing home base. Points against it is it's in the desert, it's not
on the ocean, and it's not very pretty to look at.
> 
> Have you been there in August?

Las Vegas, and the desert in general, is great in August. Good backpacking weather. BTW- July is the
hottest month. I've been out on three day backpack trips with a 45 lb. pack in July in the Colorado
River basin when the temp was above 110. A little heat sickness but no big deal. 

	
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On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 11:28:52 AM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:

> Have you been there in August?

As a matter of fact, I have. I have also camped in Death Valley in August. It was rather warm. 

I'm really not a heat guy. I don't like it at all. If I was based in Vegas I don't think I would be
around for much of the summer. I'd be on the coast or in the mountains somewhere. Like I said, it's
a good strategic location for travel. 

	
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On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 11:51:41 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
> On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 11:28:52 AM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
> 
> > Have you been there in August?
> 
> As a matter of fact, I have. I have also camped in Death Valley in August.. It was rather warm. 
> 
> I'm really not a heat guy. I don't like it at all. If I was based in Vegas I don't think I would
be around for much of the summer. I'd be on the coast or in the mountains somewhere. Like I said,
it's a good strategic location for travel.

In the early 70's, when I was a deputy in that county and was occasionally relief for the Death
Valley Deputy, the valley shut down in August. That was when the deputy stationed there took his
vacation. People continued to live there, but for the most part, stayed inside or resided in the
local bar. 

	
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On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 1:24:07 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
> On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 11:51:41 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
> > On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 11:28:52 AM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
> > 
> > > Have you been there in August?
> > 
> > As a matter of fact, I have. I have also camped in Death Valley in August. It was rather warm. 
> > 
> > I'm really not a heat guy. I don't like it at all. If I was based in Vegas I don't think I would
be around for much of the summer. I'd be on the coast or in the mountains somewhere. Like I said,
it's a good strategic location for travel.
> 
> In the early 70's, when I was a deputy in that county and was occasionally relief for the Death
Valley Deputy, the valley shut down in August. That was when the deputy stationed there took his
vacation. People continued to live there, but for the most part, stayed inside or resided in the
local bar.

There's a 40' waterfall one hour away by car and one additional hour of hiking.