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A friend picked me up at about noon yesterday and we went and played 3-cushion until a little before
4:00. He beat me 15-10. This is only the second time I ever hit a ball on a 3-cushion table. He
doesn't play 3-cushion either these days but it should be noted that he holds 5 world championships
in another  pocket billiard discipline. I was satisfied with how I did. It's a different game. The
balls are heavier and the cushions are different. I kept hitting the ball too full. You can't get
the same follow with these balls.

Then we went to the seafood buffet at the M. Excellent. The champagne was pretty good. He played a
little slots afterward but I didn't play any video poker.

He dropped me at home and I went to use my $10 free play at another casino. Went home with a win of
almost $1,700. That included losing about $60 on Texas Hold'Em Heads Up. I quit that when I got
dealt rags 9 times in a row. And this AI f*** keeps sucking out on the river. I have my suspicions.
Anyway, not a bad score overall.

What a shithole. Las Vegas is hard to take. 

	
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On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 10:46:49 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
> A friend picked me up at about noon yesterday and we went and played 3-cushion until a little
before 4:00. He beat me 15-10. This is only the second time I ever hit a ball on a 3-cushion table.
He doesn't play 3-cushion either these days but it should be noted that he holds 5 world
championships in another  pocket billiard discipline. I was satisfied with how I did. It's a
different game. The balls are heavier and the cushions are different. I kept hitting the ball too
full. You can't get the same follow with these balls.
> 
> Then we went to the seafood buffet at the M. Excellent. The champagne was pretty good. He played a
little slots afterward but I didn't play any video poker.
> 
> He dropped me at home and I went to use my $10 free play at another casino. Went home with a win
of almost $1,700. That included losing about $60 on Texas Hold'Em Heads Up. I quit that when I got
dealt rags 9 times in a row.. And this AI f*** keeps sucking out on the river. I have my suspicions.
Anyway, not a bad score overall.
> 
> What a shithole. Las Vegas is hard to take.


I hear it is excellent.  And they have a good deal for players.  I never went to their buffet but I
have played there in the middle of the night a few times, once shortly after it opened, it is so
beautiful.  I'm afraid it's even a little fancier than the Roadhouse.  I cannot think of a more
attractive casino in Vegas in my mind.

http://www.themresort.com/casino/promotions/marquee-comps-buffet 

	
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On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 11:27:50 AM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 10:46:49 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
> > A friend picked me up at about noon yesterday and we went and played 3-cushion until a little
before 4:00. He beat me 15-10. This is only the second time I ever hit a ball on a 3-cushion table.
He doesn't play 3-cushion either these days but it should be noted that he holds 5 world
championships in another  pocket billiard discipline. I was satisfied with how I did. It's a
different game. The balls are heavier and the cushions are different. I kept hitting the ball too
full. You can't get the same follow with these balls.
> > 
> > Then we went to the seafood buffet at the M. Excellent. The champagne was pretty good. He played
a little slots afterward but I didn't play any video poker.
> > 
> > He dropped me at home and I went to use my $10 free play at another casino. Went home with a win
of almost $1,700. That included losing about $60 on Texas Hold'Em Heads Up. I quit that when I got
dealt rags 9 times in a row. And this AI f*** keeps sucking out on the river. I have my suspicions.
Anyway, not a bad score overall.
> > 
> > What a shithole. Las Vegas is hard to take.
> 
> 
> I hear it is excellent.  And they have a good deal for players.  I never went to their buffet but
I have played there in the middle of the night a few times, once shortly after it opened, it is so
beautiful.  I'm afraid it's even a little fancier than the Roadhouse.  I cannot think of a more
attractive casino in Vegas in my mind.
> 
> http://www.themresort.com/casino/promotions/marquee-comps-buffet

I agree. I wish it was closer. It's almost a year since the last time I was there.

And as for the Roadhouse- it's legendary status goes a long way to compensate for it's more dated
decor. 

	
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> I agree. I wish it was closer. It's almost a year since the last time I was there.
> 


Probably mostly driving time.  Way the fuck out there. 

	
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> 
> 
> > 
> > I agree. I wish it was closer. It's almost a year since the last time I was there.
> > 
> 
> 
> Probably mostly driving time.  Way the fuck out there.



Went to casino last night.  Feeling better now, but still not 100%.  A progressive keno I had been
working on for months, actually two of them, were hit while I was sick.  Bummer.  One was hit
yesterday morning.  I put thousands into trying to hit them. 

	
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On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 12:30:58 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 12:27:42 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> > On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 11:56:17 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > I agree. I wish it was closer. It's almost a year since the last time I was there.
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > Probably mostly driving time.  Way the fuck out there.
> 
> 
> 
> Went to casino last night.  Feeling better now, but still not 100%.  A progressive keno I had been
working on for months, actually two of them, were hit while I was sick.  Bummer.  One was hit
yesterday morning.  I put thousands into trying to hit them.

That's the thing about trying to estimate a payback on something like that. The jackpot can
disappear after you've invested in it. 

	
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On Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 11:29:02 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
> On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 12:30:58 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> > On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 12:27:42 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> > > On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 11:56:17 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I agree. I wish it was closer. It's almost a year since the last time I was there.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Probably mostly driving time.  Way the fuck out there.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Went to casino last night.  Feeling better now, but still not 100%.  A progressive keno I had
been working on for months, actually two of them, were hit while I was sick.  Bummer.  One was hit
yesterday morning.  I put thousands into trying to hit them.
> 
> That's the thing about trying to estimate a payback on something like that. The jackpot can
disappear after you've invested in it.



But I "earned".  I didn't hit it.  I lost money chasing it.  But I "earned".. 

	
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On Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 1:16:48 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> On Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 11:29:02 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
> > On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 12:30:58 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> > > On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 12:27:42 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 11:56:17 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I agree. I wish it was closer. It's almost a year since the last time I was there.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Probably mostly driving time.  Way the fuck out there.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Went to casino last night.  Feeling better now, but still not 100%.  A progressive keno I had
been working on for months, actually two of them, were hit while I was sick.  Bummer.  One was hit
yesterday morning.  I put thousands into trying to hit them.
> > 
> > That's the thing about trying to estimate a payback on something like that. The jackpot can
disappear after you've invested in it.
> 
> 
> 
> But I "earned".  I didn't hit it.  I lost money chasing it.  But I "earned".

Earned what? Player credits? 

	
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On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 4:27:19 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
> On Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 1:16:48 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 11:29:02 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
> > > On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 12:30:58 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 12:27:42 PM UTC-8, popinjay wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 11:56:17 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I agree. I wish it was closer. It's almost a year since the last time I was there.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Probably mostly driving time.  Way the fuck out there.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Went to casino last night.  Feeling better now, but still not 100%.  A progressive keno I
had been working on for months, actually two of them, were hit while I was sick.  Bummer.  One was
hit yesterday morning.  I put thousands into trying to hit them.
> > > 
> > > That's the thing about trying to estimate a payback on something like that. The jackpot can
disappear after you've invested in it.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > But I "earned".  I didn't hit it.  I lost money chasing it.  But I "earned".
> 
> Earned what? Player credits?



Earned "earn".   Ask Dutch to explain it to you, he's the math guy around here. 

	
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>Earned "earn".   Ask Dutch to explain it to you, he's the math guy around here.

He could ask BillB. He's the polymath guy. That's an even better
imaginary thing. 

	
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> On Mon, 5 Feb 2018 18:22:33 -0800 (PST), popinjay
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> >Earned "earn".   Ask Dutch to explain it to you, he's the math guy around here.
> 
> He could ask BillB. He's the polymath guy. That's an even better
> imaginary thing.



Risky understands what "earn" is.  I was just teasing him about Dutch. 

	
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> >Earned "earn".   Ask Dutch to explain it to you, he's the math guy around here.
> 
> He could ask BillB. He's the polymath guy. That's an even better
> imaginary thing.

Why don't you ask BillB to explain why more or less other people playing the same progressive bank
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> A friend picked me up at about noon yesterday and we went and played 3-cushion until a little
before 4:00. He beat me 15-10. This is only the second time I ever hit a ball on a 3-cushion table.
He doesn't play 3-cushion either these days but it should be noted that he holds 5 world
championships in another  pocket billiard discipline. I was satisfied with how I did. It's a
different game. The balls are heavier and the cushions are different. I kept hitting the ball too
full. You can't get the same follow with these balls.
> 
> Then we went to the seafood buffet at the M. Excellent. The champagne was pretty good. He played a
little slots afterward but I didn't play any video poker.
> 
> He dropped me at home and I went to use my $10 free play at another casino. Went home with a win
of almost $1,700. That included losing about $60 on Texas Hold'Em Heads Up. I quit that when I got
dealt rags 9 times in a row.. And this AI f*** keeps sucking out on the river. I have my suspicions.
Anyway, not a bad score overall.
> 
> What a shithole. Las Vegas is hard to take.

I forgot to mention that the weather was terrible. Low 70s and balmy. Miserable.