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http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-43328566

Youtube attacked over "wrong-speak" video:

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43319975 

	
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RichA<rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:

>http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-43328566

Do you ever read these articles? The chants were taking place in a
residence hall outside this female student's door. Yes: I agree. That
would be a crime. If that had been the United States, no, that's not a
public forum and therefore not protected speech.

>Youtube attacked over "wrong-speak" video:

>http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43319975

What if, say, Anti-Defamation League posted such a video as evidence of
the kind of speeches given by certain people? Would that have been
blocked too? 

	
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On Thursday, 8 March 2018 13:08:45 UTC-5, Adam H. Kerman  wrote:
> RichA<rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-43328566
> 
> Do you ever read these articles? The chants were taking place in a
> residence hall outside this female student's door. Yes: I agree. That
> would be a crime. If that had been the United States, no, that's not a
> public forum and therefore not protected speech.
> 
> >Youtube attacked over "wrong-speak" video:
> 
> >http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43319975
> 
> What if, say, Anti-Defamation League posted such a video as evidence of
> the kind of speeches given by certain people? Would that have been
> blocked too?

I don't believe anyone should be jailed for saying anything that isn't a direct threat to injure. 

	
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RichA<rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thursday, 8 March 2018 13:08:45 UTC-5, Adam H. Kerman  wrote:
>>RichA<rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-43328566

>>Do you ever read these articles? The chants were taking place in a
>>residence hall outside this female student's door. Yes: I agree. That
>>would be a crime. If that had been the United States, no, that's not a
>>public forum and therefore not protected speech.

>>>Youtube attacked over "wrong-speak" video:

>>>http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43319975

>>What if, say, Anti-Defamation League posted such a video as evidence of
>>the kind of speeches given by certain people? Would that have been
>>blocked too?

>I don't believe anyone should be jailed for saying anything that isn't a
>direct threat to injure.

It's perfectly reasonable to expect university students not to threaten
other university students. 

	
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On 2018-03-08 5:15 PM, RichA wrote:
> On Thursday, 8 March 2018 13:08:45 UTC-5, Adam H. Kerman  wrote:
>> RichA<rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-43328566
>>
>> Do you ever read these articles? The chants were taking place in a
>> residence hall outside this female student's door. Yes: I agree. That
>> would be a crime. If that had been the United States, no, that's not a
>> public forum and therefore not protected speech.
>>
>>> Youtube attacked over "wrong-speak" video:
>>
>>> http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43319975
>>
>> What if, say, Anti-Defamation League posted such a video as evidence of
>> the kind of speeches given by certain people? Would that have been
>> blocked too?
> 
> I don't believe anyone should be jailed for saying anything that isn't a direct threat to injure.
> 

So then you are prepared to be harassed inside your home because you are 
white? 

	
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In article <p7sr4e$1mfn$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
 David Johnston<davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On 2018-03-08 5:15 PM, RichA wrote:

> > I don't believe anyone should be jailed for saying anything that
> > isn't a direct threat to injure.

> So then you are prepared to be harassed inside your home because you are 
> white?

I can't speak for Rich, but in that case, they'd be jailed for breaking 
and entering, and trespassing, not for their speech.

(That assumes they survived the experience in the first place.) 

	
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BTR1701<atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>David Johnston<davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>On 2018-03-08 5:15 PM, RichA wrote:

>>>I don't believe anyone should be jailed for saying anything that
>>>isn't a direct threat to injure.

>>So then you are prepared to be harassed inside your home because you are 
>>white?

>I can't speak for Rich, but in that case, they'd be jailed for breaking 
>and entering, and trespassing, not for their speech.

>(That assumes they survived the experience in the first place.)

You've told us how good a shot your Canadian girlfriend is! 

	
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In article <p7uem2$4te$1@news.albasani.net>,
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> BTR1701<atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> >David Johnston<davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>On 2018-03-08 5:15 PM, RichA wrote:
> 
> >>>I don't believe anyone should be jailed for saying anything that
> >>>isn't a direct threat to injure.
> 
> >>So then you are prepared to be harassed inside your home because you are 
> >>white?
> 
> >I can't speak for Rich, but in that case, they'd be jailed for breaking 
> >and entering, and trespassing, not for their speech.
> 
> >(That assumes they survived the experience in the first place.)
> 
> You've told us how good a shot your Canadian girlfriend is!

Yep, my little mapleback is a dead-eye. 

	
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>   "Adam H. Kerman"<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
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>> BTR1701<atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>> David Johnston<davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2018-03-08 5:15 PM, RichA wrote:
>>
>>>>> I don't believe anyone should be jailed for saying anything that
>>>>> isn't a direct threat to injure.
>>
>>>> So then you are prepared to be harassed inside your home because you are
>>>> white?
>>
>>> I can't speak for Rich, but in that case, they'd be jailed for breaking
>>> and entering, and trespassing, not for their speech.
>>
>>> (That assumes they survived the experience in the first place.)
>>
>> You've told us how good a shot your Canadian girlfriend is!
> 
> Yep, my little mapleback is a dead-eye.
> 


What other deformities does she have? 

	
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> In article <p7sr4e$1mfn$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
>   David Johnston<davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> On 2018-03-08 5:15 PM, RichA wrote:
> 
>>> I don't believe anyone should be jailed for saying anything that
>>> isn't a direct threat to injure.
> 
>> So then you are prepared to be harassed inside your home because you are
>> white?
> 
> I can't speak for Rich, but in that case, they'd be jailed for breaking
> and entering, and trespassing, not for their speech.

Breaking and entering?  I was thinking of having them scream racial 
invective from outside his apartment door. 

	
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In article <p7uic8$nas$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
 David Johnston<davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On 2018-03-09 9:39 AM, BTR1701 wrote:

> > In article <p7sr4e$1mfn$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
> >   David Johnston<davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> On 2018-03-08 5:15 PM, RichA wrote:
> > 
> >>> I don't believe anyone should be jailed for saying anything that
> >>> isn't a direct threat to injure.
> > 
> >> So then you are prepared to be harassed inside your home because
> >> you are white?
> > 
> > I can't speak for Rich, but in that case, they'd be jailed for breaking
> > and entering, and trespassing, not for their speech.
> 
> Breaking and entering? I was thinking of having them scream racial 
> invective from outside his apartment door.

Well, you said "harassed inside your home", which suggests the harasser 
is in the home. 

	
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On 2018-03-09 12:00 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <p7uic8$nas$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
>   David Johnston<davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2018-03-09 9:39 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
> 
>>> In article <p7sr4e$1mfn$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
>>>    David Johnston<davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2018-03-08 5:15 PM, RichA wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I don't believe anyone should be jailed for saying anything that
>>>>> isn't a direct threat to injure.
>>>
>>>> So then you are prepared to be harassed inside your home because
>>>> you are white?
>>>
>>> I can't speak for Rich, but in that case, they'd be jailed for breaking
>>> and entering, and trespassing, not for their speech.
>>
>> Breaking and entering? I was thinking of having them scream racial
>> invective from outside his apartment door.
> 
> Well, you said "harassed inside your home", which suggests the harasser
> is in the home.
> 

If Rich in his home and being harassed I think that turn of phrase 
applies. 

	
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On 3/9/18 1:00 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <p7uic8$nas$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
>   David Johnston<davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2018-03-09 9:39 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
> 
>>> In article <p7sr4e$1mfn$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
>>>    David Johnston<davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2018-03-08 5:15 PM, RichA wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I don't believe anyone should be jailed for saying anything that
>>>>> isn't a direct threat to injure.
>>>
>>>> So then you are prepared to be harassed inside your home because
>>>> you are white?
>>>
>>> I can't speak for Rich, but in that case, they'd be jailed for breaking
>>> and entering, and trespassing, not for their speech.
>>
>> Breaking and entering? I was thinking of having them scream racial
>> invective from outside his apartment door.
> 
> Well, you said "harassed inside your home", which suggests the harasser
> is in the home.
> 


Thanks for that, Columbo. 

	
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>>>> I don't believe anyone should be jailed for saying anything that
>>>> isn't a direct threat to injure.
>> 
>>> So then you are prepared to be harassed inside your home because you are
>>> white?
>> 
>> I can't speak for Rich, but in that case, they'd be jailed for breaking
>> and entering, and trespassing, not for their speech.
>
>Breaking and entering?  I was thinking of having them scream racial 
>invective from outside his apartment door.

Well never mind what the law says, Rich has just said he's A-OK with
that. 

	
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>> What if, say, Anti-Defamation League posted such a video as evidence of
>> the kind of speeches given by certain people? Would that have been
>> blocked too?
>
>I don't believe anyone should be jailed for saying anything that isn't a direct threat to injure.

So if I organize a group of friends to chant "We love Rich!" endlessly
at 3 am outside your place, 'no harm no foul'? 

	
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The Horny Goat<lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>On Thu, 8 Mar 2018 16:15:52 -0800 (PST), RichA<rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>What if, say, Anti-Defamation League posted such a video as evidence of
>>>the kind of speeches given by certain people? Would that have been
>>>blocked too?

>>I don't believe anyone should be jailed for saying anything that isn't a direct threat to injure.

>So if I organize a group of friends to chant "We love Rich!" endlessly
>at 3 am outside your place, 'no harm no foul'?

Hehehehe 

	
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On Thu, 8 Mar 2018 18:08:42 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"<ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>RichA<rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-43328566
>
>Do you ever read these articles? The chants were taking place in a
>residence hall outside this female student's door. Yes: I agree. That
>would be a crime. If that had been the United States, no, that's not a
>public forum and therefore not protected speech.

Ok, I'll bite.  How is a hallway, accessible to anyone not a public
area?


>
>>Youtube attacked over "wrong-speak" video:
>
>>http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43319975
>
>What if, say, Anti-Defamation League posted such a video as evidence of
>the kind of speeches given by certain people? Would that have been
>blocked too? 

	
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In article<mf05adlpcm5tfpdvu1e6sm6ga18ct11f1d@4ax.com>,
 NoBody<NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 8 Mar 2018 18:08:42 -0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman"
><ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> 
> >RichA<rander3128@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-43328566
> >
> >Do you ever read these articles? The chants were taking place in a
> >residence hall outside this female student's door. Yes: I agree. That
> >would be a crime. If that had been the United States, no, that's not a
> >public forum and therefore not protected speech.
> 
> Ok, I'll bite. How is a hallway, accessible to anyone not a public
> area?

Leaving aside the ridiculous 'hate speech' designation, the hallway of a 
residence hall is not a public forum because such places are not 
generally open to the public. They're open to residents and their 
invited guests only.

And even if they weren't restricted to residents and invited guests, 
it's a residential facility and any shouting or chanting or protests 
could be restricted and banned under the "reasonable time, place, and 
manner" standard if this happened in America. The Supreme Court has 
ruled that speech in public forums (like the streets and sidewalks in a 
residential neighborhood) can be restricted according to "reasonable 
time, place, and manner" regulations.

In other words, the residents of a neighborhood have a right to the 
peace and enjoyment of their property and shouldn't have to endure being 
kept up all night by some rabble marching up and down their streets 
banging on drums because they're 'protesting' one of the residents. 

	
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> http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-43328566
> 
> Youtube attacked over "wrong-speak" video:
> 
> http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43319975
> 

Will rightwing political correctness ever see an end in the age of Trump?   
All they seem to do is whine and bitch.   It's nothing a good beating can't 
fix.   I've done it myself on many an occasion. 

	
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> > 
> > Youtube attacked over "wrong-speak" video:
> > 
> > http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-43319975
> > 
> 
> Will rightwing political correctness ever see an end in the age of Trump?   
> All they seem to do is whine and bitch.   It's nothing a good beating can't 
> fix.   I've done it myself on many an occasion.

You couldn't beat one of your black mother's drums, FAKER.