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On 1/12/2017 6:00 PM, RichA wrote:
> http://theweek.com/articles/729712/real-justice-league-cw
> 

Just started watching The Flash, not brilliant but watchable.
I remember another series of The Flash years ago that I liked. 

	
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>On 1/12/2017 6:00 PM, RichA wrote:
>> http://theweek.com/articles/729712/real-justice-league-cw
>> 
>
>Just started watching The Flash, not brilliant but watchable.
>I remember another series of The Flash years ago that I liked.

Starting with the classic Batman animated series, DC has generally done
better with animation than their live action movies.

Maybe they should give those directors the nod for the next live movie..

(Though admittedly the recent animated Batman/Harley Quinn movie was
a misfire with some good segments)
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> In article <ovraau$k4p$2@dont-email.me>, hector<bobble@there.com> wrote:
>> On 1/12/2017 6:00 PM, RichA wrote:
>>> http://theweek.com/articles/729712/real-justice-league-cw
>>>
>>
>> Just started watching The Flash, not brilliant but watchable.
>> I remember another series of The Flash years ago that I liked.

> Starting with the classic Batman animated series, DC has generally done
> better with animation than their live action movies.
>
> Maybe they should give those directors the nod for the next live movie..
>
> (Though admittedly the recent animated Batman/Harley Quinn movie was
> a misfire with some good segments)

I missed that movie, what's the title? 

	
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In article <ovstlj$1v6p$2@gioia.aioe.org>, Alan Smithee<alms@last.inc> wrote:
>On 12/01/2017 03:03 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>> In article <ovraau$k4p$2@dont-email.me>, hector<bobble@there.com> wrote:
>>> On 1/12/2017 6:00 PM, RichA wrote:
>>>> http://theweek.com/articles/729712/real-justice-league-cw
>>>>
>>>
>>> Just started watching The Flash, not brilliant but watchable.
>>> I remember another series of The Flash years ago that I liked.
>
>> Starting with the classic Batman animated series, DC has generally done
>> better with animation than their live action movies.
>>
>> Maybe they should give those directors the nod for the next live movie..
>>
>> (Though admittedly the recent animated Batman/Harley Quinn movie was
>> a misfire with some good segments)
>
>I missed that movie, what's the title?
>
>

In this case, pretty easy: "Batman And Harley Quinn"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_and_Harley_Quinn

I saw it in the theater as a "Fathom Event".  Some pretty amusing setup
bits with tracking down Harley and Nightwing (grown up Robin) having
a fling with her after which she dumps him all the while claiming he's
dumping her.  The A plot is not very compelling though, gets the Harley/Ivy
dynamic wrong and totally wastes Swamp Thing.
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> In article <ovstlj$1v6p$2@gioia.aioe.org>, Alan Smithee<alms@last.inc> wrote:
>> On 12/01/2017 03:03 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>> In article <ovraau$k4p$2@dont-email.me>, hector<bobble@there.com> wrote:
>>>> On 1/12/2017 6:00 PM, RichA wrote:
>>>>> http://theweek.com/articles/729712/real-justice-league-cw
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just started watching The Flash, not brilliant but watchable.
>>>> I remember another series of The Flash years ago that I liked.
>>
>>> Starting with the classic Batman animated series, DC has generally done
>>> better with animation than their live action movies.
>>>
>>> Maybe they should give those directors the nod for the next live movie..
>>>
>>> (Though admittedly the recent animated Batman/Harley Quinn movie was
>>> a misfire with some good segments)
>>
>> I missed that movie, what's the title?

> In this case, pretty easy: "Batman And Harley Quinn"
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_and_Harley_Quinn
>
> I saw it in the theater as a "Fathom Event".  Some pretty amusing setup
> bits with tracking down Harley and Nightwing (grown up Robin) having
> a fling with her after which she dumps him all the while claiming he's
> dumping her.  The A plot is not very compelling though, gets the Harley/Ivy
> dynamic wrong and totally wastes Swamp Thing.

Thanks! Will still check it out anyway... :-D 

	
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On 2017-12-01 19:03:50 +0000, ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan said:
> In article <ovraau$k4p$2@dont-email.me>, hector<bobble@there.com> wrote:
>> On 1/12/2017 6:00 PM, RichA wrote:
>>> http://theweek.com/articles/729712/real-justice-league-cw
>> 
>> Just started watching The Flash, not brilliant but watchable.
>> I remember another series of The Flash years ago that I liked.
> 
> Starting with the classic Batman animated series, DC has generally done
> better with animation than their live action movies.
> 
> Maybe they should give those directors the nod for the next live movie..
> 
> (Though admittedly the recent animated Batman/Harley Quinn movie was
> a misfire with some good segments)

You want a bad animated superhero, try "Batman Ninja" ... it looks like 
ridiculously awful garbage.  :-\

<http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/trailers/906603-watch-the-trailer-... 

	
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If he means DC, not Marvel, then he's right. The JLA movie is their 
latest bomb in a string of duds. 

	
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In message <ovstk7$1v6p$1@gioia.aioe.org> Alan Smithee<alms@last.inc> wrote:
> If he means DC, not Marvel, then he's right. The JLA movie is their 
> latest bomb in a string of duds.

I don't think anyone can call nearly half a billion dollars a "flop"

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> > If he means DC, not Marvel, then he's right. The JLA movie is their 
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> I don't think anyone can call nearly half a billion dollars a "flop"
> 

The Wonder Woman movie was the only one that was both a critical and commercial success. 

	
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>>> If he means DC, not Marvel, then he's right. The JLA movie is their
>>> latest bomb in a string of duds.

>> I don't think anyone can call nearly half a billion dollars a "flop"

> The Wonder Woman movie was the only one that was both a critical and commercial success.

Yep! Everyone and his brother is panning DC's latest offering... and the 
film cost $300 million to make so, "nearly half a billion dollars" isn't 
that much moolah.

I've given up expecting a good "hero movie" from this company. :-( 

	
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In message <ovvhsv$sqj$1@gioia.aioe.org> Alan Smithee<alms@last.inc> wrote:
> On 12/02/2017 11:29 AM, Michael OConnor wrote:

>>>> If he means DC, not Marvel, then he's right. The JLA movie is their
>>>> latest bomb in a string of duds.

>>> I don't think anyone can call nearly half a billion dollars a "flop"

>> The Wonder Woman movie was the only one that was both a critical and commercial success.

> Yep! Everyone and his brother is panning DC's latest offering...

Critics may be, but it  has quite decent scores on IMDB from viewers. Also on
Rotten Tomatoes where it has an 81%.

> and the film cost $300 million to make so, "nearly half a billion
> dollars" isn't that much moolah.

Source?

> I've given up expecting a good "hero movie" from this company. :-(

I'm assuming you've not seen it.


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> On 1/12/2017 6:00 PM, RichA wrote:
>> http://theweek.com/articles/729712/real-justice-league-cw
>> 

> Just started watching The Flash, not brilliant but watchable.
> I remember another series of The Flash years ago that I liked.

Season 1 is quite good. Season 2 is downhill, Season 3 is wretched
garbage I gave up about halfway through.


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try, but you always find yourself watchin' yourself watchin' people, eh?
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> In message <ovraau$k4p$2@dont-email.me> hector<bobble@there.com> wrote:
>> On 1/12/2017 6:00 PM, RichA wrote:
>>> http://theweek.com/articles/729712/real-justice-league-cw
>>>
> 
>> Just started watching The Flash, not brilliant but watchable.
>> I remember another series of The Flash years ago that I liked.
> 
> Season 1 is quite good. Season 2 is downhill, Season 3 is wretched
> garbage I gave up about halfway through.
> 
> 

The ongoing subplot makes me have misgivings (about the guy in the 
chair), worth ignoring it if is never resolved, watching season 1.  Or 
maybe resolving it leads to nowhere to go. 

	
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I know the special effects weren't in the same ballpark, but I still preferred the 70's TV version
of the Incredible Hulk to either of the Hulk movies..  I think the TV show was able to convey the
story of a man on the run with a one of a kind problem, who had a big heart and went out of his way
to help people and it always got him in trouble. Another thing I find interesting today that I was
too young to realize back then is that it was set against the backdrop of the Carter recession and
dealt with a transient man who was constantly trying to find menial work in America and barely
getting by and he was working different low-level jobs every week. 

	
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On Friday, 1 December 2017 09:39:09 UTC-5, Michael OConnor  wrote:
> I know the special effects weren't in the same ballpark, but I still preferred the 70's TV version
of the Incredible Hulk to either of the Hulk movies.  I think the TV show was able to convey the
story of a man on the run with a one of a kind problem, who had a big heart and went out of his way
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too young to realize back then is that it was set against the backdrop of the Carter recession and
dealt with a transient man who was constantly trying to find menial work in America and barely
getting by and he was working different low-level jobs every week.

That was the 1970's.  Now, he'd be a multi-millionaire with a problem. Same way they ruined "The
Night Stalker" in the re-make. 

	
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> I know the special effects weren't in the same ballpark, but I still preferred the 70's TV version
of the Incredible Hulk to either of the Hulk movies.  I think the TV show was able to convey the
story of a man on the run with a one of a kind problem, who had a big heart and went out of his way
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too young to realize back then is that it was set against the backdrop of the Carter recession and
dealt with a transient man who was constantly trying to find menial work in America and barely
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> 

I always liked the 70s Incredible Hulk pilot which I seeked out on dvd. 

	
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In message<cc803b6c-c18e-478c-b078-8e372579163b@googlegroups.com> Michael OConnor<mpoconnor7@aol.com> wrote:
> I know the special effects weren't in the same ballpark, but I still
> preferred the 70's TV version of the Incredible Hulk to either of the
> Hulk movies.

that's because the Hulk movies were both bad (differently bad from each
other) and the Hulk series was very good.

The Hulk character in the recent movies has been very good though.

-- 
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> I know the special effects weren't in the same ballpark, but I still preferred the 70's TV version
of the Incredible Hulk to either of the Hulk movies.  I think the TV show was able to convey the
story of a man on the run with a one of a kind problem, who had a big heart and went out of his way
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too young to realize back then is that it was set against the backdrop of the Carter recession and
dealt with a transient man who was constantly trying to find menial work in America and barely
getting by and he was working different low-level jobs every week.
> 

I've come to the realization that movies are actually better if real 
presence of special effects takes precedence over fake cgi ones, I mean 
like having people in suits or something.  It's true. 

	
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> On 2/12/2017 1:39 AM, Michael OConnor wrote:

> > I know the special effects weren't in the same ballpark, but I still 
> > preferred the 70's TV version of the Incredible Hulk to either of the Hulk 
> > movies. I think the TV show was able to convey the story of a man on the 
> > run with a one of a kind problem, who had a big heart and went out of his 
> > way to help people and it always got him in trouble. Another thing I find 
> > interesting today that I was too young to realize back then is that it was 
> > set against the backdrop of the Carter recession and dealt with a transient 
> > man who was constantly trying to find menial work in America and barely 
> > getting by and he was working different low-level jobs every week.

> I've come to the realization that movies are actually better if real 
> presence of special effects takes precedence over fake cgi ones, I mean 
> like having people in suits or something. It's true.

Yeah, a guy in a Hulk suit would make THE AVENGERS so much better. That 
wouldn't be ridiculously lame or anything. 

	
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> In article <ovvbll$elt$2@dont-email.me>, hector<bobble@there.com>
> wrote:
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>> On 2/12/2017 1:39 AM, Michael OConnor wrote:
> 
>>> I know the special effects weren't in the same ballpark, but I still
>>> preferred the 70's TV version of the Incredible Hulk to either of the Hulk
>>> movies. I think the TV show was able to convey the story of a man on the
>>> run with a one of a kind problem, who had a big heart and went out of his
>>> way to help people and it always got him in trouble. Another thing I find
>>> interesting today that I was too young to realize back then is that it was
>>> set against the backdrop of the Carter recession and dealt with a transient
>>> man who was constantly trying to find menial work in America and barely
>>> getting by and he was working different low-level jobs every week.
> 
>> I've come to the realization that movies are actually better if real
>> presence of special effects takes precedence over fake cgi ones, I mean
>> like having people in suits or something. It's true.
> 
> Yeah, a guy in a Hulk suit would make THE AVENGERS so much better. That
> wouldn't be ridiculously lame or anything.
> 

Not adding suits to those movies.  Conceiving with more physically real 
things I mean. 

	
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> I've come to the realization that movies are actually better if real 
> presence of special effects takes precedence over fake cgi ones, I mean 
> like having people in suits or something.  It's true.

The only way you could do it with the Hulk, is if you get a massively built guy like Lou Ferrigno
and make him up green and stuff, and use CGI to grow him on screen, to make him look about ten feet
tall instead of about six feet tall, and distort and enhance his features a little here and there to
make him look like the Hulk, and put him amongst the other actors at normal size, and make it look
real.  It can be done with special effects, or else they would be doing stuff like that already.

A guy in a Hulk suit looks like a guy in a suit playing Godzilla or King Kong.  Cheesy and phony. 

	
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On 3/12/2017 1:45 PM, Michael OConnor wrote:
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>> I've come to the realization that movies are actually better if real
>> presence of special effects takes precedence over fake cgi ones, I mean
>> like having people in suits or something.  It's true.
> 
> The only way you could do it with the Hulk, is if you get a massively built guy like Lou Ferrigno
and make him up green and stuff, and use CGI to grow him on screen, to make him look about ten feet
tall instead of about six feet tall, and distort and enhance his features a little here and there to
make him look like the Hulk, and put him amongst the other actors at normal size, and make it look
real.  It can be done with special effects, or else they would be doing stuff like that already.
> 
> A guy in a Hulk suit looks like a guy in a suit playing Godzilla or King Kong.  Cheesy and phony.
> 

One major problem with CGI is when they make their animated facsimile 
physically active and the laws of physics aren't quite accurate enough, 
and it looks like a cartoon figure.  Happens a lot with Spiderman. 

	
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> On 3/12/2017 1:45 PM, Michael OConnor wrote:
>>
>>> I've come to the realization that movies are actually better if real
>>> presence of special effects takes precedence over fake cgi ones, I mean
>>> like having people in suits or something.  It's true.
>>
>> The only way you could do it with the Hulk, is if you get a massively 
>> built guy like Lou Ferrigno and make him up green and stuff, and use 
>> CGI to grow him on screen, to make him look about ten feet tall 
>> instead of about six feet tall, and distort and enhance his features a 
>> little here and there to make him look like the Hulk, and put him 
>> amongst the other actors at normal size, and make it look real.  It 
>> can be done with special effects, or else they would be doing stuff 
>> like that already.
>>
>> A guy in a Hulk suit looks like a guy in a suit playing Godzilla or 
>> King Kong.  Cheesy and phony.
>>
> 
> One major problem with CGI is when they make their animated facsimile 
> physically active and the laws of physics aren't quite accurate enough, 
> and it looks like a cartoon figure.  Happens a lot with Spiderman.

Yes...and WONDER WOMAN turned into a cartoon figure about half way 
through her movie, too.

As for HULK, I actually think the Lou Ferrigno version worked better in 
a lot of ways because he was still real instead of a cartoon character. 
That being said, the latest rendition of HULK is a lot better than the 
past couple of CGI reboots. 

	
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> As for HULK, I actually think the Lou Ferrigno version worked better in 
> a lot of ways because he was still real instead of a cartoon character. 
> That being said, the latest rendition of HULK is a lot better than the 
> past couple of CGI reboots.

In the Hulk movie with Edward Norton, Banner had a goatee, but when he turned into the Hulk, the
Hulk didn't have one.  The second movie was clearly meant to be closer to the TV series in nature as
it was more about Banner being on the run.  It was better than the first movie, but I liked the
first movie too. 

And I remmember on these boards, the widespread belief was that the Ang Lee Hulk movie was going to
be a turd as soon as the trailer was released during the Super Bowl and everybody got their first
look as the overly cartoonish CGI Hulk. 

	
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>On 12/3/2017 7:54 AM, hector wrote:
>> On 3/12/2017 1:45 PM, Michael OConnor wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've come to the realization that movies are actually better if real
>>>> presence of special effects takes precedence over fake cgi ones, I mean
>>>> like having people in suits or something.  It's true.
>>>
>>> The only way you could do it with the Hulk, is if you get a massively 
>>> built guy like Lou Ferrigno and make him up green and stuff, and use 
>>> CGI to grow him on screen, to make him look about ten feet tall 
>>> instead of about six feet tall, and distort and enhance his features a 
>>> little here and there to make him look like the Hulk, and put him 
>>> amongst the other actors at normal size, and make it look real.  It 
>>> can be done with special effects, or else they would be doing stuff 
>>> like that already.
>>>
>>> A guy in a Hulk suit looks like a guy in a suit playing Godzilla or 
>>> King Kong.  Cheesy and phony.
>>>
>> 
>> One major problem with CGI is when they make their animated facsimile 
>> physically active and the laws of physics aren't quite accurate enough, 
>> and it looks like a cartoon figure.  Happens a lot with Spiderman.
>
>Yes...and WONDER WOMAN turned into a cartoon figure about half way 
>through her movie, too.
>
>As for HULK, I actually think the Lou Ferrigno version worked better in 
>a lot of ways because he was still real instead of a cartoon character. 
>That being said, the latest rendition of HULK is a lot better than the 
>past couple of CGI reboots.

Surprisingly, the current Thor movie is the best Hulk showcase we've ever had.
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>>On 12/3/2017 7:54 AM, hector wrote:
>>> On 3/12/2017 1:45 PM, Michael OConnor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've come to the realization that movies are actually better if real
>>>>> presence of special effects takes precedence over fake cgi ones, I mean
>>>>> like having people in suits or something.  It's true.
>>>>
>>>> The only way you could do it with the Hulk, is if you get a massively 
>>>> built guy like Lou Ferrigno and make him up green and stuff, and use 
>>>> CGI to grow him on screen, to make him look about ten feet tall 
>>>> instead of about six feet tall, and distort and enhance his features a 
>>>> little here and there to make him look like the Hulk, and put him 
>>>> amongst the other actors at normal size, and make it look real.  It 
>>>> can be done with special effects, or else they would be doing stuff 
>>>> like that already.
>>>>
>>>> A guy in a Hulk suit looks like a guy in a suit playing Godzilla or 
>>>> King Kong.  Cheesy and phony.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> One major problem with CGI is when they make their animated facsimile 
>>> physically active and the laws of physics aren't quite accurate enough, 
>>> and it looks like a cartoon figure.  Happens a lot with Spiderman.
>>
>>Yes...and WONDER WOMAN turned into a cartoon figure about half way 
>>through her movie, too.
>>
>>As for HULK, I actually think the Lou Ferrigno version worked better in 
>>a lot of ways because he was still real instead of a cartoon character. 
>>That being said, the latest rendition of HULK is a lot better than the 
>>past couple of CGI reboots.

> Surprisingly, the current Thor movie is the best Hulk showcase we've ever had.

Yep.

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