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Did anything interesting happen with movie-tech in 2017?

Also, not advances, but

	Did we get any HFR in 2017?

	How about non-converted 3D?
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On 28/12/2017 4:35 PM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> Did anything interesting happen with movie-tech in 2017?
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> Also, not advances, but
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> 	Did we get any HFR in 2017?
> 
> 	How about non-converted 3D


Lap dissolves avoided because they look bad on streaming? 

	
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On 12/28/2017 12:35 AM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
> Did anything interesting happen with movie-tech in 2017?

Better seating?  Movie ticket all you can eat plans?  Being able to 
convert blood directly into movie tickets?

> Also, not advances, but
> 
> 	Did we get any HFR in 2017?

Nope.

> 	How about non-converted 3D?

Not a single film shot in 3D for 2017, just cartoons.  However, next 
year there is a genuine 3D film coming out...a sci-fi film titled 2.0 
and shot in india:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5080556/

....and a film at least partly shot in 3D called VIY 2:  JOURNEY TO CHINA 
starring Arnold Schwarzenegger, Rutger Hauer, and Jackie Chan:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6218010/

Neither of those look like hits for the USA, so any celebration of 3D 
next year will probably have to come with INCREDIBLES 2.

As for 'live action' 3D and HFR, I think that AVATAR 2 is still planned 
for December of 2020. 

	
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> Also, not advances, but
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> 	Did we get any HFR in 2017?
> 
> 	How about non-converted 3D?

I don't recall any native 3D -- including, surprisingly, STAR WARS.

My personal "tech headlines" would be the affordable upgrading of TV 
images to a tipping point that makes theaters (apart from Imax 3D) the 
less desirable viewing experience.  Also, and though I never saw an 
announcement, PPV movies are modified (sans disclaimer!) from their 
original format by having background sound attenuated during dialogue.

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moviePig<pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>On 12/28/2017 12:35 AM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>> Did anything interesting happen with movie-tech in 2017?
>> 
>> Also, not advances, but
>> 
>> 	Did we get any HFR in 2017?
>> 
>> 	How about non-converted 3D?
>
>I don't recall any native 3D -- including, surprisingly, STAR WARS.
>
>My personal "tech headlines" would be the affordable upgrading of TV 
>images to a tipping point that makes theaters (apart from Imax 3D) the 
>less desirable viewing experience.  Also, and though I never saw an 
>announcement, PPV movies are modified (sans disclaimer!) from their 
>original format by having background sound attenuated during dialogue.
>

Wow, movies where you can actually hear the dialogue!

(Yes, this is one of my current peeves.  My middle aged ears miss a
lot of stuff in today's noisy mumblefests.)
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> moviePig<pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote:
>> On 12/28/2017 12:35 AM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
>>> Did anything interesting happen with movie-tech in 2017?
>>>
>>> Also, not advances, but
>>>
>>> 	Did we get any HFR in 2017?
>>>
>>> 	How about non-converted 3D?
>>
>> I don't recall any native 3D -- including, surprisingly, STAR WARS.
>>
>> My personal "tech headlines" would be the affordable upgrading of TV
>> images to a tipping point that makes theaters (apart from Imax 3D) the
>> less desirable viewing experience.  Also, and though I never saw an
>> announcement, PPV movies are modified (sans disclaimer!) from their
>> original format by having background sound attenuated during dialogue.
>>
> 
> Wow, movies where you can actually hear the dialogue!
> 
> (Yes, this is one of my current peeves.  My middle aged ears miss a
> lot of stuff in today's noisy mumblefests.)

I'm guessing there were lots of refund-requests for inaudibility...

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On 2017-12-28 14:23:20 +0000, moviePig said:
> On 12/28/2017 12:35 AM, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:
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>> Did anything interesting happen with movie-tech in 2017?
>> 
>> Also, not advances, but
>> 
>> 	Did we get any HFR in 2017?
>> 
>> 	How about non-converted 3D?
> 
> I don't recall any native 3D -- including, surprisingly, STAR WARS.
<snip>

That's at least partly because the Director, Rian Johnson, apprently 
hates 3D ... one fo the very few things he actually got right for the 
movie. Reportedly some scenes in The Last Jedi were filmed in IMAX 
format though, but not 3D IMAX.

Of course, the morons at Disney have 3D-erised the movie, so it'll look 
even worse than if it was actually filmed in 3D ... although, the 
cardboard cut-out effect of 3D-erisation will "complement" the 
cardboard acting of some of the cast! 

	
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VR wearable contrivances are headed for the same dumpster as 3D TV? 

	
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>> Did anything interesting happen with movie-tech in 2017?
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> VR wearable contrivances are headed for the same dumpster as 3D TV?

Not quite.

3D TV, like 3D movies, is completely useless and pointless. With or 
without needing to wear silly glasses, it's nothing but a gimmick.

VR does have /some/ good uses, but I don't see VR (nor AR) ever being 
as big of a deal as many people are making it out to be. I can see VR 
being popular with hard-core gamers (those willing to spend many 
thousands of dollars on gear and games) and in also to a degree some 
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> 
> Not quite.
> 
> 3D TV, like 3D movies, is completely useless and pointless. With or 
> without needing to wear silly glasses, it's nothing but a gimmick.
> 
> VR does have /some/ good uses, but I don't see VR (nor AR) ever being 
> as big of a deal as many people are making it out to be. I can see VR 
> being popular with hard-core gamers (those willing to spend many 
> thousands of dollars on gear and games) and in also to a degree some 
> business environments (such as architecture).

I saw a TV news item showing some "golly-gee" millenial wearing a set gesticulating in the air with
their hands like a strung-out conductor in a second-rate orchestra.  They incorporate this crap into
office work, I can see people getting slapped and punched in the face by accident, just because of
the agitated body movements. Watch that coffee cup.