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Doesn't sound too good:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/05/the-cloverfield-paradox... 

	
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On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 05:03:50 -0600, trotsky wrote:

> Doesn't sound too good:
> 
> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/05/the-cloverfield-paradox
review

It's being released direct to video rather than in cinemas first. You 
expected better? 

	
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On 2/5/18 5:23 AM, rachel wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 05:03:50 -0600, trotsky wrote:
> 
>> Doesn't sound too good:
>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/05/the-cloverfield-paradox
> review
> 
> It's being released direct to video rather than in cinemas first. You
> expected better?


You're confused.  Netflix produces their own movies now, and this is a 
new paradigm in the release channels for movies.  Previously they 
released "Bright" which was both well received and watched by a 
gajillion people.  It's weird how few people seem to have a grasp about 
how the business of movies is conducted. 

	
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On 2/5/2018 6:46 AM, trotsky wrote:
> On 2/5/18 5:23 AM, rachel wrote:
>> On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 05:03:50 -0600, trotsky wrote:
>>
>>> Doesn't sound too good:
>>>
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/05/the-cloverfield-paradox
>> review
>>
>> It's being released direct to video rather than in cinemas first. You
>> expected better?
> 
> 
> You're confused.  Netflix produces their own movies now, and this is a 
> new paradigm in the release channels for movies.  Previously they 
> released "Bright" which was both well received and watched by a 
> gajillion people.  It's weird how few people seem to have a grasp about 
> how the business of movies is conducted.

When discussing how little people know about what is going on in the 
movie business, you should probably work harder not to demonstrate the 
problem.

Take some time to look into the making of THE CLOVERFIELD PARADOX and 
you will see that it is nothing like BRIGHT.  BRIGHT was made for 
Netflix by Netflix.  THE CLOVERFIELD PARADOX, on the other hand, was a 
Paramount film that has been lingering on shelves and limping along with 
production problems and cost overruns for years until finally being sold 
off to Netflix after the Paramount studio gave up on it. 

	
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On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 05:46:32 -0600, trotsky wrote:

> On 2/5/18 5:23 AM, rachel wrote:
>> On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 05:03:50 -0600, trotsky wrote:
>> 
>>> Doesn't sound too good:
>>>
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/05/the-cloverfield-paradox
>> review
>> 
>> It's being released direct to video rather than in cinemas first. You
>> expected better?
>
> You're confused.  Netflix produces their own movies now, and this is a
> new paradigm in the release channels for movies.  Previously they
> released "Bright" which was both well received and watched by a
> gajillion people.  It's weird how few people seem to have a grasp about
> how the business of movies is conducted.

Blah, blah, blah ...

Fact is, I don't recall this Cloverfield Paradox thing getting a wide 
theatrical release, or even so much as seeing an ad on TV for it.

A movie without a theatrical release is direct-to-video, by definition.

Now please tell me the last time a direct-to-video sequel of *anything* 
was anything other than utter crap? 

	
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On 2/5/18 8:35 AM, rachel wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 05:46:32 -0600, trotsky wrote:
> 
>> On 2/5/18 5:23 AM, rachel wrote:
>>> On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 05:03:50 -0600, trotsky wrote:
>>>
>>>> Doesn't sound too good:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/05/the-cloverfield-paradox
>>> review
>>>
>>> It's being released direct to video rather than in cinemas first. You
>>> expected better?
>>
>> You're confused.  Netflix produces their own movies now, and this is a
>> new paradigm in the release channels for movies.  Previously they
>> released "Bright" which was both well received and watched by a
>> gajillion people.  It's weird how few people seem to have a grasp about
>> how the business of movies is conducted.
> 
> Blah, blah, blah ...
> 
> Fact is, I don't recall this Cloverfield Paradox thing getting a wide
> theatrical release, or even so much as seeing an ad on TV for it.
> 
> A movie without a theatrical release is direct-to-video, by definition.
> 
> Now please tell me the last time a direct-to-video sequel of *anything*
> was anything other than utter crap?


Wow, that's quite a pile of shit.  So my little primer on distribution 
channels of movies went right over your head.  It's a Netflix movie 
release through Netflix.  Is Netflix a "video"?  No, it's a streaming 
video channel.  Is a movie released through a streaming video channel a 
made for TV movie then?  Not in the conventional sense because they're 
using production values and budgets deemed for theatrical films.  It's a 
new paradigm.  If you need help understanding this, just ask.  If you 
want another exercise in small mindedness there are specific dudes that 
are best at that. 

	
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On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 4:11:21 PM UTC-5, Greg Singh wrote:

> Wow, that's quite a pile of shit.  So my little primer on distribution 
> channels of movies went right over your head.  It's a Netflix movie 
> release through Netflix.  Is Netflix a "video"?  No, it's a streaming 
> video channel.  Is a movie released through a streaming video channel a 
> made for TV movie then?  Not in the conventional sense because they're 
> using production values and budgets deemed for theatrical films.  It's a 
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> want another exercise in small mindedness there are specific dudes that 
> are best at that.

trotsky never tires of chasing his tail. 

	
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> On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 4:11:21 PM UTC-5, Greg Singh wrote:
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>> Wow, that's quite a pile of shit.  So my little primer on distribution
>> channels of movies went right over your head.  It's a Netflix movie
>> release through Netflix.  Is Netflix a "video"?  No, it's a streaming
>> video channel.  Is a movie released through a streaming video channel a
>> made for TV movie then?  Not in the conventional sense because they're
>> using production values and budgets deemed for theatrical films.  It's a
>> new paradigm.  If you need help understanding this, just ask.  If you
>> want another exercise in small mindedness there are specific dudes that
>> are best at that.
> 
> trotsky never tires of chasing his tail.
> 


And wee willy ahearn never tires of defecating on topic discussions. 

	
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On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 15:11:17 -0600, trotsky wrote:

> On 2/5/18 8:35 AM, rachel wrote:
>> On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 05:46:32 -0600, trotsky wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2/5/18 5:23 AM, rachel wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 05:03:50 -0600, trotsky wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Doesn't sound too good:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/05/the-cloverfield-paradox
>>>> review
>>>>
>>>> It's being released direct to video rather than in cinemas first. You
>>>> expected better?
>>>
>>> You're confused.  Netflix produces their own movies now, and this is a
>>> new paradigm in the release channels for movies.  Previously they
>>> released "Bright" which was both well received and watched by a
>>> gajillion people.  It's weird how few people seem to have a grasp
>>> about how the business of movies is conducted.
>> 
>> Blah, blah, blah ...
>> 
>> Fact is, I don't recall this Cloverfield Paradox thing getting a wide
>> theatrical release, or even so much as seeing an ad on TV for it.
>> 
>> A movie without a theatrical release is direct-to-video, by definition.
>> 
>> Now please tell me the last time a direct-to-video sequel of *anything*
>> was anything other than utter crap?
>
> Wow, that's quite a pile of shit.  So my little primer on distribution
> channels of movies went right over your head.

No, it was irrelevant. It was released direct to home-viewing, bypassing 
the theatrical release window. And it's a sequel. That makes it a direct-
to-video sequel. Direct-to-video sequels suck. And you even *agreed* that 
this particular one sucked!

Why are you now all frothy about it? 

	
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>> On 2/5/18 8:35 AM, rachel wrote:
>>> On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 05:46:32 -0600, trotsky wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/5/18 5:23 AM, rachel wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 05:03:50 -0600, trotsky wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Doesn't sound too good:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/05/the-cloverfield-paradox
>>>>> review
>>>>>
>>>>> It's being released direct to video rather than in cinemas first. You
>>>>> expected better?
>>>>
>>>> You're confused.  Netflix produces their own movies now, and this is a
>>>> new paradigm in the release channels for movies.  Previously they
>>>> released "Bright" which was both well received and watched by a
>>>> gajillion people.  It's weird how few people seem to have a grasp
>>>> about how the business of movies is conducted.
>>>
>>> Blah, blah, blah ...
>>>
>>> Fact is, I don't recall this Cloverfield Paradox thing getting a wide
>>> theatrical release, or even so much as seeing an ad on TV for it.
>>>
>>> A movie without a theatrical release is direct-to-video, by definition.
>>>
>>> Now please tell me the last time a direct-to-video sequel of *anything*
>>> was anything other than utter crap?
>>
>> Wow, that's quite a pile of shit.  So my little primer on distribution
>> channels of movies went right over your head.
> 
> No, it was irrelevant. 


So are you.  Whose sockpuppet did you say you were? 

	
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> On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 05:03:50 -0600, trotsky wrote:
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>> Doesn't sound too good:
>> 
>> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/05/the-cloverfield-paradox
>> review
> 
> It's being released direct to video rather than in cinemas first. You
> expected better?

It's more of JarJar Abrams' incredibly talentless, massively 
over-hyped, amazingly incomprehensible drivel ... you expected better?? 

	
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> On 2018-02-05 11:23:13 +0000, rachel said:
>> On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 05:03:50 -0600, trotsky wrote:
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>>> Doesn't sound too good:
>>>
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/05/the-cloverfield-paradox
>>> review
>>
>> It's being released direct to video rather than in cinemas first. You
>> expected better?
> 
> It's more of JarJar Abrams' incredibly talentless, massively over-hyped, 
> amazingly incomprehensible drivel ... you expected better??
> 


Does Star Wars fall in that category too? 

	
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>> On 2018-02-05 11:23:13 +0000, rachel said:
>>> On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 05:03:50 -0600, trotsky wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Doesn't sound too good:
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/05/the-cloverfield-paradox
>>>> review
>>> 
>>> It's being released direct to video rather than in cinemas first. You
>>> expected better?
>> 
>> It's more of JarJar Abrams' incredibly talentless, massively 
>> over-hyped, amazingly incomprehensible drivel ... you expected better??
> 
> Does Star Wars fall in that category too?

Yep, the crappy, lazy-ass reboots he's been making as a so-called 
"Sequel Trilogy" do certainly qualify too. As do his awful, "new 
timeline" Star Trek reboots.

The only thing that talentless hack is "good" at doing is destroying 
franchises and creating incomprehensible messes.   :-( 

	
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>>>> On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 05:03:50 -0600, trotsky wrote:
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>>>>> Doesn't sound too good:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/05/the-cloverfield-paradox
>>>>> review
>>>>
>>>> It's being released direct to video rather than in cinemas first. You
>>>> expected better?
>>>
>>> It's more of JarJar Abrams' incredibly talentless, massively 
>>> over-hyped, amazingly incomprehensible drivel ... you expected better??
>>
>> Does Star Wars fall in that category too?
> 
> Yep, the crappy, lazy-ass reboots he's been making as a so-called 
> "Sequel Trilogy" do certainly qualify too. As do his awful, "new 
> timeline" Star Trek reboots.
> 
> The only thing that talentless hack is "good" at doing is destroying 
> franchises and creating incomprehensible messes.   :-(


I'm not a fan either, but "Jar Jar Abrams" should be introduced as a new 
character. 

	
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>Doesn't sound too good:
>
>https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/05/the-cloverfield-paradox...

	Cloverfield 2 had the hot Mary Elizabeth Winstead. Not much of
a story, but worth watching, IMHO, if only to see her..

	Cloverfield 3 has a multi-racial cast of ugly people and no
story.....

	Has the movie industry gone to sht since the Trumpet took
office, or is that just a coincidence ?
	The only half-decent film I saw last year was "Wind River".
More for the scenery than actual content.
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> 	Has the movie industry gone to sht since the Trumpet took
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> 	The only half-decent film I saw last year was "Wind River".
> More for the scenery than actual content.
> 	[]'s

Hello? How did you manage to miss ALL of the following:

Alien: Covenant
The underrated Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2(!)
War for the Planet of the Apes
Thor: Ragnarok
Spider-Man: Homecoming(!)
Justice League
Wonder Woman(!!)
Logan
STAR FUCKING WARS FUCKING VII!!!

Which is not to suggest giving Drumpfie any credit for any of these, as 
all of them would have been in the proverbial pipeline long before the 
2016 election and its execrable result. 

	
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Who is forging on-topic articles from "trotsky" again?


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> Doesn't sound too good:
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> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/05/the-cloverfield-paradox...


As mentioned in your link, it was originally a cheap sci-fi movie called "God Particle" unrelated to
Cloverfield. It was retro-fitted with references to Cloverfield.


The Cloverfield Paradox Lands With a Thud"
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/02/the-clover...

"The Cloverfield Paradox should have been a comedy — and almost is one"
(Netflix’s abrupt release of the third Cloverfield film was apparently meant to beat the bad press)
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/5/16976184/cloverfield-paradox-revie... 

	
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>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/05/the-cloverfield-paradox...
> 
> 
> As mentioned in your link, it was originally a cheap sci-fi movie called "God Particle" unrelated
to Cloverfield. It was retro-fitted with references to Cloverfield.
> 
> 
> The Cloverfield Paradox Lands With a Thud"
>
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/02/the-clover...
> 
> "The Cloverfield Paradox should have been a comedy — and almost is one"
> (Netflix’s abrupt release of the third Cloverfield film was apparently meant to beat the bad
press)
>
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/5/16976184/cloverfield-paradox-revie...

This kind of info is what we pay you for.  Many thanks for the two hours 
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>>>
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/05/the-cloverfield-paradox... 
>>>
>>
>>
>> As mentioned in your link, it was originally a cheap sci-fi movie 
>> called "God Particle" unrelated to Cloverfield. It was retro-fitted 
>> with references to Cloverfield.
>>
>>
>> The Cloverfield Paradox Lands With a Thud"
>>
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>>
>>
>> "The Cloverfield Paradox should have been a comedy — and almost is one"
>> (Netflix’s abrupt release of the third Cloverfield film was apparently 
>> meant to beat the bad press)
>>
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>>
> 
> This kind of info is what we pay you for.  Many thanks for the two hours 
> I'd never get back...

Given that it has only been out for a day and a half, it isn't doing too 
bad.  Checking IMDB...

THE CLOVERFIELD PARADOX:  6.1rating with 14,391 votes.

as a comparison to theater offerings:

INSIDIOUS THE LAST KEY:  5.8rating with 11,653 votes.
This film has been out for 5 weeks.

SLUMBER:  4.7rating with 1,178 votes.
This film has been out for 8 weeks.

AMITYVILLE THE AWAKENING:  4.9rating with 7,181 votes.
This film has been out for 15 weeks. 

	
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> On 2/6/2018 9:49 AM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 2/5/2018 8:48 PM, bermuda999 wrote:
>>> On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 6:03:53 AM UTC-5, Greg Singh wrote:
>>>> Doesn't sound too good:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/05/the-cloverfield-paradox... 
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As mentioned in your link, it was originally a cheap sci-fi movie 
>>> called "God Particle" unrelated to Cloverfield. It was retro-fitted 
>>> with references to Cloverfield.
>>>
>>>
>>> The Cloverfield Paradox Lands With a Thud"
>>>
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/02/the-clover... 
>>>
>>>
>>> "The Cloverfield Paradox should have been a comedy — and almost is one"
>>> (Netflix’s abrupt release of the third Cloverfield film was 
>>> apparently meant to beat the bad press)
>>>
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/5/16976184/cloverfield-paradox-revie... 
>>>
>>
>> This kind of info is what we pay you for.  Many thanks for the two 
>> hours I'd never get back...
> 
> Given that it has only been out for a day and a half, it isn't doing too 
> bad.  Checking IMDB...
> 
> THE CLOVERFIELD PARADOX:  6.1rating with 14,391 votes.
> 
> as a comparison to theater offerings:
> 
> INSIDIOUS THE LAST KEY:  5.8rating with 11,653 votes.
> This film has been out for 5 weeks.
> 
> SLUMBER:  4.7rating with 1,178 votes.
> This film has been out for 8 weeks.
> 
> AMITYVILLE THE AWAKENING:  4.9rating with 7,181 votes.
> This film has been out for 15 weeks.

tCP now has 6.0 from  15,208.  Fwiw, I do think Netflix confers a small 
pro-bias -- e.g., an anti-establishment sticking it to The Man.  What's 
most damning here, though, is the "retro-fitting" angle...

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>>
>>
>> On 2/6/2018 9:49 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>> On 2/5/2018 8:48 PM, bermuda999 wrote:
>>>> On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 6:03:53 AM UTC-5, Greg Singh wrote:
>>>>> Doesn't sound too good:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/05/the-cloverfield-paradox... 
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As mentioned in your link, it was originally a cheap sci-fi movie 
>>>> called "God Particle" unrelated to Cloverfield. It was retro-fitted 
>>>> with references to Cloverfield.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Cloverfield Paradox Lands With a Thud"
>>>>
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/02/the-clover... 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "The Cloverfield Paradox should have been a comedy — and almost is one"
>>>> (Netflix’s abrupt release of the third Cloverfield film was 
>>>> apparently meant to beat the bad press)
>>>>
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/5/16976184/cloverfield-paradox-revie... 
>>>>
>>>
>>> This kind of info is what we pay you for.  Many thanks for the two 
>>> hours I'd never get back...
>>
>> Given that it has only been out for a day and a half, it isn't doing 
>> too bad.  Checking IMDB...
>>
>> THE CLOVERFIELD PARADOX:  6.1rating with 14,391 votes.
>>
>> as a comparison to theater offerings:
>>
>> INSIDIOUS THE LAST KEY:  5.8rating with 11,653 votes.
>> This film has been out for 5 weeks.
>>
>> SLUMBER:  4.7rating with 1,178 votes.
>> This film has been out for 8 weeks.
>>
>> AMITYVILLE THE AWAKENING:  4.9rating with 7,181 votes.
>> This film has been out for 15 weeks.
> 
> tCP now has 6.0 from  15,208.  Fwiw, I do think Netflix confers a small 
> pro-bias -- e.g., an anti-establishment sticking it to The Man.  What's 
> most damning here, though, is the "retro-fitting" angle...

Damning because it is an original story idea then got a retro-fitted 
name/gimmick tacked on to sell it to the masses? 

	
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> On 2/6/2018 2:18 PM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 2/6/2018 10:12 AM, Obveeus wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/6/2018 9:49 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>> On 2/5/2018 8:48 PM, bermuda999 wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 6:03:53 AM UTC-5, Greg Singh wrote:
>>>>>> Doesn't sound too good:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/05/the-cloverfield-paradox... 
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As mentioned in your link, it was originally a cheap sci-fi movie 
>>>>> called "God Particle" unrelated to Cloverfield. It was retro-fitted 
>>>>> with references to Cloverfield.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Cloverfield Paradox Lands With a Thud"
>>>>>
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/02/the-clover... 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Cloverfield Paradox should have been a comedy — and almost is 
>>>>> one"
>>>>> (Netflix’s abrupt release of the third Cloverfield film was 
>>>>> apparently meant to beat the bad press)
>>>>>
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/5/16976184/cloverfield-paradox-revie... 
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This kind of info is what we pay you for.  Many thanks for the two 
>>>> hours I'd never get back...
>>>
>>> Given that it has only been out for a day and a half, it isn't doing 
>>> too bad.  Checking IMDB...
>>>
>>> THE CLOVERFIELD PARADOX:  6.1rating with 14,391 votes.
>>>
>>> as a comparison to theater offerings:
>>>
>>> INSIDIOUS THE LAST KEY:  5.8rating with 11,653 votes.
>>> This film has been out for 5 weeks.
>>>
>>> SLUMBER:  4.7rating with 1,178 votes.
>>> This film has been out for 8 weeks.
>>>
>>> AMITYVILLE THE AWAKENING:  4.9rating with 7,181 votes.
>>> This film has been out for 15 weeks.
>>
>> tCP now has 6.0 from  15,208.  Fwiw, I do think Netflix confers a 
>> small pro-bias -- e.g., an anti-establishment sticking it to The Man.  
>> What's most damning here, though, is the "retro-fitting" angle...
> 
> Damning because it is an original story idea then got a retro-fitted 
> name/gimmick tacked on to sell it to the masses?

Yes.  Add that to the assertion that it was shelved forever before 
escaping online and it does sound like a perpetual second-choice.

(Also, I liked the Cloverfield movies, and hate the blatant branding.)

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>>
>>
>> On 2/6/2018 2:18 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>> On 2/6/2018 10:12 AM, Obveeus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/6/2018 9:49 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>> On 2/5/2018 8:48 PM, bermuda999 wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 6:03:53 AM UTC-5, Greg Singh wrote:
>>>>>>> Doesn't sound too good:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/05/the-cloverfield-paradox... 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As mentioned in your link, it was originally a cheap sci-fi movie 
>>>>>> called "God Particle" unrelated to Cloverfield. It was 
>>>>>> retro-fitted with references to Cloverfield.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Cloverfield Paradox Lands With a Thud"
>>>>>>
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/02/the-clover... 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The Cloverfield Paradox should have been a comedy — and almost is 
>>>>>> one"
>>>>>> (Netflix’s abrupt release of the third Cloverfield film was 
>>>>>> apparently meant to beat the bad press)
>>>>>>
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/5/16976184/cloverfield-paradox-revie... 
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This kind of info is what we pay you for.  Many thanks for the two 
>>>>> hours I'd never get back...
>>>>
>>>> Given that it has only been out for a day and a half, it isn't doing 
>>>> too bad.  Checking IMDB...
>>>>
>>>> THE CLOVERFIELD PARADOX:  6.1rating with 14,391 votes.
>>>>
>>>> as a comparison to theater offerings:
>>>>
>>>> INSIDIOUS THE LAST KEY:  5.8rating with 11,653 votes.
>>>> This film has been out for 5 weeks.
>>>>
>>>> SLUMBER:  4.7rating with 1,178 votes.
>>>> This film has been out for 8 weeks.
>>>>
>>>> AMITYVILLE THE AWAKENING:  4.9rating with 7,181 votes.
>>>> This film has been out for 15 weeks.
>>>
>>> tCP now has 6.0 from  15,208.  Fwiw, I do think Netflix confers a 
>>> small pro-bias -- e.g., an anti-establishment sticking it to The Man. 
>>> What's most damning here, though, is the "retro-fitting" angle...
>>
>> Damning because it is an original story idea then got a retro-fitted 
>> name/gimmick tacked on to sell it to the masses?
> 
> Yes.  Add that to the assertion that it was shelved forever before 
> escaping online and it does sound like a perpetual second-choice.
> 
> (Also, I liked the Cloverfield movies, and hate the blatant branding.)
> 

Are you guys thinking we're talking about art here?

LNC 

	
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>> On 2/6/2018 2:41 PM, Obveeus wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/6/2018 2:18 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>> On 2/6/2018 10:12 AM, Obveeus wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/6/2018 9:49 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/5/2018 8:48 PM, bermuda999 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 6:03:53 AM UTC-5, Greg Singh wrote:
>>>>>>>> Doesn't sound too good:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/05/the-cloverfield-paradox... 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As mentioned in your link, it was originally a cheap sci-fi movie 
>>>>>>> called "God Particle" unrelated to Cloverfield. It was 
>>>>>>> retro-fitted with references to Cloverfield.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Cloverfield Paradox Lands With a Thud"
>>>>>>>
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/02/the-clover... 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The Cloverfield Paradox should have been a comedy — and almost 
>>>>>>> is one"
>>>>>>> (Netflix’s abrupt release of the third Cloverfield film was 
>>>>>>> apparently meant to beat the bad press)
>>>>>>>
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/5/16976184/cloverfield-paradox-revie... 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This kind of info is what we pay you for.  Many thanks for the two 
>>>>>> hours I'd never get back...
>>>>>
>>>>> Given that it has only been out for a day and a half, it isn't 
>>>>> doing too bad.  Checking IMDB...
>>>>>
>>>>> THE CLOVERFIELD PARADOX:  6.1rating with 14,391 votes.
>>>>>
>>>>> as a comparison to theater offerings:
>>>>>
>>>>> INSIDIOUS THE LAST KEY:  5.8rating with 11,653 votes.
>>>>> This film has been out for 5 weeks.
>>>>>
>>>>> SLUMBER:  4.7rating with 1,178 votes.
>>>>> This film has been out for 8 weeks.
>>>>>
>>>>> AMITYVILLE THE AWAKENING:  4.9rating with 7,181 votes.
>>>>> This film has been out for 15 weeks.
>>>>
>>>> tCP now has 6.0 from  15,208.  Fwiw, I do think Netflix confers a 
>>>> small pro-bias -- e.g., an anti-establishment sticking it to The 
>>>> Man. What's most damning here, though, is the "retro-fitting" angle...
>>>
>>> Damning because it is an original story idea then got a retro-fitted 
>>> name/gimmick tacked on to sell it to the masses?
>>
>> Yes.  Add that to the assertion that it was shelved forever before 
>> escaping online and it does sound like a perpetual second-choice.
>>
>> (Also, I liked the Cloverfield movies, and hate the blatant branding.)
>>
> 
> Are you guys thinking we're talking about art here?

Well, for me, nothing in the 'horror' genre is art.  My point was more 
along the lines of the fact that this CLOVERFIELD film looks to be every 
bit as good as the supernatural horror options served up in theaters 
over the last few months. 

	
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>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/6/2018 2:18 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>> On 2/6/2018 10:12 AM, Obveeus wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/6/2018 9:49 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/5/2018 8:48 PM, bermuda999 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 6:03:53 AM UTC-5, Greg Singh wrote:
>>>>>>>> Doesn't sound too good:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/05/the-cloverfield-paradox... 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As mentioned in your link, it was originally a cheap sci-fi movie 
>>>>>>> called "God Particle" unrelated to Cloverfield. It was 
>>>>>>> retro-fitted with references to Cloverfield.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Cloverfield Paradox Lands With a Thud"
>>>>>>>
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/02/the-clover... 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The Cloverfield Paradox should have been a comedy — and almost 
>>>>>>> is one"
>>>>>>> (Netflix’s abrupt release of the third Cloverfield film was 
>>>>>>> apparently meant to beat the bad press)
>>>>>>>
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/5/16976184/cloverfield-paradox-revie... 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This kind of info is what we pay you for.  Many thanks for the two 
>>>>>> hours I'd never get back...
>>>>>
>>>>> Given that it has only been out for a day and a half, it isn't 
>>>>> doing too bad.  Checking IMDB...
>>>>>
>>>>> THE CLOVERFIELD PARADOX:  6.1rating with 14,391 votes.
>>>>>
>>>>> as a comparison to theater offerings:
>>>>>
>>>>> INSIDIOUS THE LAST KEY:  5.8rating with 11,653 votes.
>>>>> This film has been out for 5 weeks.
>>>>>
>>>>> SLUMBER:  4.7rating with 1,178 votes.
>>>>> This film has been out for 8 weeks.
>>>>>
>>>>> AMITYVILLE THE AWAKENING:  4.9rating with 7,181 votes.
>>>>> This film has been out for 15 weeks.
>>>>
>>>> tCP now has 6.0 from  15,208.  Fwiw, I do think Netflix confers a 
>>>> small pro-bias -- e.g., an anti-establishment sticking it to The 
>>>> Man. What's most damning here, though, is the "retro-fitting" angle...
>>>
>>> Damning because it is an original story idea then got a retro-fitted 
>>> name/gimmick tacked on to sell it to the masses?
>>
>> Yes.  Add that to the assertion that it was shelved forever before 
>> escaping online and it does sound like a perpetual second-choice.
>>
>> (Also, I liked the Cloverfield movies, and hate the blatant branding.)
> 
> Are you guys thinking we're talking about art here?

Well, if *we're* talking about it, it must be.  Right?

Actually, all I meant about 'branding' is that I thought the first two 
movies enjoyed a nice, if tenous, connection -- which is abused by 
asking the audience to extend it to random flotsam.

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On 2/6/18 4:15 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 2/6/2018 4:56 PM, reilloc wrote:
>> On 2/6/2018 2:01 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>> On 2/6/2018 2:41 PM, Obveeus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/6/2018 2:18 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>> On 2/6/2018 10:12 AM, Obveeus wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/6/2018 9:49 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/5/2018 8:48 PM, bermuda999 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 6:03:53 AM UTC-5, Greg Singh wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Doesn't sound too good:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/05/the-cloverfield-paradox... 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As mentioned in your link, it was originally a cheap sci-fi 
>>>>>>>> movie called "God Particle" unrelated to Cloverfield. It was 
>>>>>>>> retro-fitted with references to Cloverfield.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Cloverfield Paradox Lands With a Thud"
>>>>>>>>
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/02/the-clover... 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "The Cloverfield Paradox should have been a comedy — and almost 
>>>>>>>> is one"
>>>>>>>> (Netflix’s abrupt release of the third Cloverfield film was 
>>>>>>>> apparently meant to beat the bad press)
>>>>>>>>
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/5/16976184/cloverfield-paradox-revie... 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This kind of info is what we pay you for.  Many thanks for the 
>>>>>>> two hours I'd never get back...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Given that it has only been out for a day and a half, it isn't 
>>>>>> doing too bad.  Checking IMDB...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> THE CLOVERFIELD PARADOX:  6.1rating with 14,391 votes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as a comparison to theater offerings:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> INSIDIOUS THE LAST KEY:  5.8rating with 11,653 votes.
>>>>>> This film has been out for 5 weeks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SLUMBER:  4.7rating with 1,178 votes.
>>>>>> This film has been out for 8 weeks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AMITYVILLE THE AWAKENING:  4.9rating with 7,181 votes.
>>>>>> This film has been out for 15 weeks.
>>>>>
>>>>> tCP now has 6.0 from  15,208.  Fwiw, I do think Netflix confers a 
>>>>> small pro-bias -- e.g., an anti-establishment sticking it to The 
>>>>> Man. What's most damning here, though, is the "retro-fitting" angle...
>>>>
>>>> Damning because it is an original story idea then got a retro-fitted 
>>>> name/gimmick tacked on to sell it to the masses?
>>>
>>> Yes.  Add that to the assertion that it was shelved forever before 
>>> escaping online and it does sound like a perpetual second-choice.
>>>
>>> (Also, I liked the Cloverfield movies, and hate the blatant branding.)
>>
>> Are you guys thinking we're talking about art here?
> 
> Well, if *we're* talking about it, it must be.  Right?
> 
> Actually, all I meant about 'branding' is that I thought the first two 
> movies enjoyed a nice, if tenous, connection -- which is abused by 
> asking the audience to extend it to random flotsam.


Flotsam gets a 6.0 rating?  Can you ever stop mentally masturbating 
about this shit? 

	
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>>
>>
>> On 2/6/2018 9:49 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>> On 2/5/2018 8:48 PM, bermuda999 wrote:
>>>> On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 6:03:53 AM UTC-5, Greg Singh wrote:
>>>>> Doesn't sound too good:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/05/the-cloverfield-paradox... 
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As mentioned in your link, it was originally a cheap sci-fi movie 
>>>> called "God Particle" unrelated to Cloverfield. It was retro-fitted 
>>>> with references to Cloverfield.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Cloverfield Paradox Lands With a Thud"
>>>>
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/02/the-clover... 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "The Cloverfield Paradox should have been a comedy — and almost is one"
>>>> (Netflix’s abrupt release of the third Cloverfield film was 
>>>> apparently meant to beat the bad press)
>>>>
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/5/16976184/cloverfield-paradox-revie... 
>>>>
>>>
>>> This kind of info is what we pay you for.  Many thanks for the two 
>>> hours I'd never get back...
>>
>> Given that it has only been out for a day and a half, it isn't doing 
>> too bad.  Checking IMDB...
>>
>> THE CLOVERFIELD PARADOX:  6.1rating with 14,391 votes.
>>
>> as a comparison to theater offerings:
>>
>> INSIDIOUS THE LAST KEY:  5.8rating with 11,653 votes.
>> This film has been out for 5 weeks.
>>
>> SLUMBER:  4.7rating with 1,178 votes.
>> This film has been out for 8 weeks.
>>
>> AMITYVILLE THE AWAKENING:  4.9rating with 7,181 votes.
>> This film has been out for 15 weeks.
> 
> tCP now has 6.0 from  15,208.  Fwiw, I do think Netflix confers a small 
> pro-bias -- e.g., an anti-establishment sticking it to The Man. 


Anti-establishment?  What the fuck are you talking about? 

	
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>> On 2/6/2018 10:12 AM, Obveeus wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/6/2018 9:49 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>> On 2/5/2018 8:48 PM, bermuda999 wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 6:03:53 AM UTC-5, Greg Singh wrote:
>>>>>> Doesn't sound too good:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/05/the-cloverfield-paradox... 
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As mentioned in your link, it was originally a cheap sci-fi movie 
>>>>> called "God Particle" unrelated to Cloverfield. It was retro-fitted 
>>>>> with references to Cloverfield.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Cloverfield Paradox Lands With a Thud"
>>>>>
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/02/the-clover... 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Cloverfield Paradox should have been a comedy — and almost is 
>>>>> one"
>>>>> (Netflix’s abrupt release of the third Cloverfield film was 
>>>>> apparently meant to beat the bad press)
>>>>>
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/5/16976184/cloverfield-paradox-revie... 
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This kind of info is what we pay you for.  Many thanks for the two 
>>>> hours I'd never get back...
>>>
>>> Given that it has only been out for a day and a half, it isn't doing 
>>> too bad.  Checking IMDB...
>>>
>>> THE CLOVERFIELD PARADOX:  6.1rating with 14,391 votes.
>>>
>>> as a comparison to theater offerings:
>>>
>>> INSIDIOUS THE LAST KEY:  5.8rating with 11,653 votes.
>>> This film has been out for 5 weeks.
>>>
>>> SLUMBER:  4.7rating with 1,178 votes.
>>> This film has been out for 8 weeks.
>>>
>>> AMITYVILLE THE AWAKENING:  4.9rating with 7,181 votes.
>>> This film has been out for 15 weeks.
>>
>> tCP now has 6.0 from  15,208.  Fwiw, I do think Netflix confers a 
>> small pro-bias -- e.g., an anti-establishment sticking it to The Man. 
> 
> Anti-establishment?  What the fuck are you talking about?

In the movie biz, Netflix is (still) the upstart, the renegade who 
delivers what the big studios won't risk.  We pull for Netflix.

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>>> tCP now has 6.0 from  15,208.  Fwiw, I do think Netflix confers a 
>>> small pro-bias -- e.g., an anti-establishment sticking it to The Man. 
>>
>> Anti-establishment?  What the fuck are you talking about?
> 
> In the movie biz, Netflix is (still) the upstart, the renegade who 
> delivers what the big studios won't risk.  We pull for Netflix.
>


Here is my advice: you shitheads need to start doing the necessary 
research when talking about any aspect of the business of selling 
movies, because you look like fucking third graders.  Here's an example:

https://www.thestreet.com/story/14478005/1/disney-announces-earnings...


Disney Corp., one of the biggest entertainment conglomerates in the 
history of the universe, has announced its "global streaming plan". 
Guess what?  Netflix is a streaming video channel.  Hm, could it be that 
Disney and others have recognized that streaming video is a new paradigm 
in the release of its products and are acting accordingly?  Guess what 
else?  If Disney is doing it it's just the opposite of "anti 
establishment".  Do you see your error yet? 

	
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>>> On 2/6/18 1:18 PM, moviePig wrote:
> 
>>>> tCP now has 6.0 from  15,208.  Fwiw, I do think Netflix confers a 
>>>> small pro-bias -- e.g., an anti-establishment sticking it to The Man. 
>>>
>>> Anti-establishment?  What the fuck are you talking about?
>>
>> In the movie biz, Netflix is (still) the upstart, the renegade who 
>> delivers what the big studios won't risk.  We pull for Netflix.
> 
> Here is my advice: you shitheads need to start doing the necessary 
> research when talking about any aspect of the business of selling 
> movies, because you look like fucking third graders.  Here's an example:
> 
>
https://www.thestreet.com/story/14478005/1/disney-announces-earnings... 
> 
> Disney Corp., one of the biggest entertainment conglomerates in the 
> history of the universe, has announced its "global streaming plan". 
> Guess what?  Netflix is a streaming video channel.  Hm, could it be that 
> Disney and others have recognized that streaming video is a new paradigm 
> in the release of its products and are acting accordingly?  Guess what 
> else?  If Disney is doing it it's just the opposite of "anti 
> establishment".  Do you see your error yet?

The future lies ahead.  The present, however, is a concern about whether 
THE CLOVERFIELD PARADOX's hundred minutes will prove rewarding (to me!). 
  And presently, all signs point to 'no'.  Feel free to post a 'yes' 
after you've watched the movie.  I'm sure there'd be discussion.

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>> On 2/6/18 5:30 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>> On 2/6/2018 6:24 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>>> On 2/6/18 1:18 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>
>>>>> tCP now has 6.0 from  15,208.  Fwiw, I do think Netflix confers a 
>>>>> small pro-bias -- e.g., an anti-establishment sticking it to The Man. 
>>>>
>>>> Anti-establishment?  What the fuck are you talking about?
>>>
>>> In the movie biz, Netflix is (still) the upstart, the renegade who 
>>> delivers what the big studios won't risk.  We pull for Netflix.
>>
>> Here is my advice: you shitheads need to start doing the necessary 
>> research when talking about any aspect of the business of selling 
>> movies, because you look like fucking third graders.  Here's an example:
>>
>>
https://www.thestreet.com/story/14478005/1/disney-announces-earnings... 
>>
>> Disney Corp., one of the biggest entertainment conglomerates in the 
>> history of the universe, has announced its "global streaming plan". 
>> Guess what?  Netflix is a streaming video channel.  Hm, could it be 
>> that Disney and others have recognized that streaming video is a new 
>> paradigm in the release of its products and are acting accordingly?  
>> Guess what else?  If Disney is doing it it's just the opposite of 
>> "anti establishment".  Do you see your error yet?
> 
> The future lies ahead.  The present, however, is a concern about whether 
> THE CLOVERFIELD PARADOX's hundred minutes will prove rewarding (to me!). 


No, we're not talking about your bullshit ways of evaluating a movie 
without seeing it, we're talking about your bullshit comment about a 
hugely successful company called Netflix is a "renegade" because they 
have become successful as an alternate distribution channel for movies. 
If this shit is over your head you should probably just avoid the subject. 

	
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On 2/8/2018 6:15 AM, trotsky wrote:
> On 2/7/18 7:59 AM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 2/7/2018 6:14 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>> On 2/6/18 5:30 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>> On 2/6/2018 6:24 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>> On 2/6/18 1:18 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> tCP now has 6.0 from  15,208.  Fwiw, I do think Netflix confers a 
>>>>>> small pro-bias -- e.g., an anti-establishment sticking it to The Man. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Anti-establishment?  What the fuck are you talking about?
>>>>
>>>> In the movie biz, Netflix is (still) the upstart, the renegade who 
>>>> delivers what the big studios won't risk.  We pull for Netflix.
>>>
>>> Here is my advice: you shitheads need to start doing the necessary 
>>> research when talking about any aspect of the business of selling 
>>> movies, because you look like fucking third graders.  Here's an example:
>>>
>>>
https://www.thestreet.com/story/14478005/1/disney-announces-earnings... 
>>>
>>> Disney Corp., one of the biggest entertainment conglomerates in the 
>>> history of the universe, has announced its "global streaming plan". 
>>> Guess what?  Netflix is a streaming video channel.  Hm, could it be 
>>> that Disney and others have recognized that streaming video is a new 
>>> paradigm in the release of its products and are acting accordingly? 
>>> Guess what else?  If Disney is doing it it's just the opposite of 
>>> "anti establishment".  Do you see your error yet?
>>
>> The future lies ahead.  The present, however, is a concern about 
>> whether THE CLOVERFIELD PARADOX's hundred minutes will prove rewarding 
>> (to me!). 
> 
> No, we're not talking about your bullshit ways of evaluating a movie 
> without seeing it, we're talking about your bullshit comment about a 
> hugely successful company called Netflix is a "renegade" because they 
> have become successful as an alternate distribution channel for movies. 
> If this shit is over your head you should probably just avoid the subject.

"Evaluating a movie" is *different* from "evaluating a movie as a good 
bet".  For instance, one of them requires *watching* the movie, while 
the other specifically *excludes* it.  I hope this now helps you put 
that perennial soapbox to better use -- say, as firewood.

Netflix, meanwhile, is afaics the outre darling of the viewing public -- 
specifically those who forever castigate the big, established players 
for never delivering anything new or outside the safety zone.  For 
example, Netflix claims not even to publish viewership numbers on its 
offerings, because it doesn't want artists to measure their own success 
that way.  Now, perhaps *you're* immune to that sort of corporate appeal 
(and wouldn't be accordingly drawn to perhaps *over*rate their 
problematic 'Cloverfield' pseudo-sequel), but I think many might.  And, 
if you'll remember, *that's* what we were talking about.

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On 2/8/2018 8:43 AM, moviePig wrote:
> On 2/8/2018 6:15 AM, trotsky wrote:
>> On 2/7/18 7:59 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>> On 2/7/2018 6:14 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>>> On 2/6/18 5:30 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>> On 2/6/2018 6:24 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/6/18 1:18 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> tCP now has 6.0 from  15,208.  Fwiw, I do think Netflix confers a 
>>>>>>> small pro-bias -- e.g., an anti-establishment sticking it to The 
>>>>>>> Man. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anti-establishment?  What the fuck are you talking about?
>>>>>
>>>>> In the movie biz, Netflix is (still) the upstart, the renegade who 
>>>>> delivers what the big studios won't risk.  We pull for Netflix.
>>>>
>>>> Here is my advice: you shitheads need to start doing the necessary 
>>>> research when talking about any aspect of the business of selling 
>>>> movies, because you look like fucking third graders.  Here's an 
>>>> example:
>>>>
>>>>
https://www.thestreet.com/story/14478005/1/disney-announces-earnings... 
>>>>
>>>> Disney Corp., one of the biggest entertainment conglomerates in the 
>>>> history of the universe, has announced its "global streaming plan". 
>>>> Guess what?  Netflix is a streaming video channel.  Hm, could it be 
>>>> that Disney and others have recognized that streaming video is a new 
>>>> paradigm in the release of its products and are acting accordingly? 
>>>> Guess what else?  If Disney is doing it it's just the opposite of 
>>>> "anti establishment".  Do you see your error yet?
>>>
>>> The future lies ahead.  The present, however, is a concern about 
>>> whether THE CLOVERFIELD PARADOX's hundred minutes will prove 
>>> rewarding (to me!). 
>>
>> No, we're not talking about your bullshit ways of evaluating a movie 
>> without seeing it, we're talking about your bullshit comment about a 
>> hugely successful company called Netflix is a "renegade" because they 
>> have become successful as an alternate distribution channel for 
>> movies. If this shit is over your head you should probably just avoid 
>> the subject.
> 
> "Evaluating a movie" is *different* from "evaluating a movie as a good 
> bet".  For instance, one of them requires *watching* the movie, while 
> the other specifically *excludes* it.  I hope this now helps you put 
> that perennial soapbox to better use -- say, as firewood.
> 
> Netflix, meanwhile, is afaics


You can't see two feet in front of your face then.  Look, you're not a 
bad guy and you're an enthusiast, that's the good news.  The bad news is 
you're mentally lazy and don't mind spouting ignorance.  In case it 
isn't clear I fucking hate that shit. Keep in mind that you were the guy 
that held on to watching pieces of plastic, DVDs, as long as you could. 
Old guys don't like to adopt new technology in general.  I'm an 
electronics junkie and I'm like that myself to some degree.  However, I 
do have a pretty good feel for what sells and what doesn't, so that end, 
here's an article from last June:

http://www.businessinsider.com/netflix-more-popular-than-cable-us-c...

> More people now subscribe to Netflix than cable TV in the US
> 
>     Jeff Dunn
> 
>     Jun. 15, 2017, 7:00 PM 7,604 
> 
> Netflix is becoming as much a staple of the American home as cable TV — even more so.
> 
> In the first quarter of this year, the number of US Netflix subscribers overtook the number of
American cable TV subscribers for the first time, according to a recent study by Leichtman Research
Group charted for us by Statista. While Netflix has rapidly gained new subscribers, cable has been
slowly losing them. 


So please, for your own sake, just shut the fuck up until you can get 
even the vaguest grasp of the facts.  Is this what you want, to sound 
absolutely ignorant like a "RichA" or BTRwhogivesafuck?  I'll bet you 
don't.  You sound REALLY stupid when a monstrous business venture such 
as Netflix is described like it's some kind of gonzo pirate TV set up. 
REALLY STUPID.  Jeff Bezos is the richest guy in the world and yet I'd 
bet money that he'd give his left nut to have Amazon Prime Video do what 
Netflix is doing.  Is any of this getting through to you at all?

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> On 2/8/2018 8:43 AM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 2/8/2018 6:15 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>> On 2/7/18 7:59 AM, moviePig wrote:
>>>> On 2/7/2018 6:14 AM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>> On 2/6/18 5:30 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>> On 2/6/2018 6:24 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2/6/18 1:18 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> tCP now has 6.0 from  15,208.  Fwiw, I do think Netflix confers 
>>>>>>>> a small pro-bias -- e.g., an anti-establishment sticking it to 
>>>>>>>> The Man. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anti-establishment?  What the fuck are you talking about?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the movie biz, Netflix is (still) the upstart, the renegade who 
>>>>>> delivers what the big studios won't risk.  We pull for Netflix.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is my advice: you shitheads need to start doing the necessary 
>>>>> research when talking about any aspect of the business of selling 
>>>>> movies, because you look like fucking third graders.  Here's an 
>>>>> example:
>>>>>
>>>>>
https://www.thestreet.com/story/14478005/1/disney-announces-earnings... 
>>>>>
>>>>> Disney Corp., one of the biggest entertainment conglomerates in the 
>>>>> history of the universe, has announced its "global streaming plan". 
>>>>> Guess what?  Netflix is a streaming video channel.  Hm, could it be 
>>>>> that Disney and others have recognized that streaming video is a 
>>>>> new paradigm in the release of its products and are acting 
>>>>> accordingly? Guess what else?  If Disney is doing it it's just the 
>>>>> opposite of "anti establishment".  Do you see your error yet?
>>>>
>>>> The future lies ahead.  The present, however, is a concern about 
>>>> whether THE CLOVERFIELD PARADOX's hundred minutes will prove 
>>>> rewarding (to me!). 
>>>
>>> No, we're not talking about your bullshit ways of evaluating a movie 
>>> without seeing it, we're talking about your bullshit comment about a 
>>> hugely successful company called Netflix is a "renegade" because they 
>>> have become successful as an alternate distribution channel for 
>>> movies. If this shit is over your head you should probably just avoid 
>>> the subject.
>>
>> "Evaluating a movie" is *different* from "evaluating a movie as a good 
>> bet".  For instance, one of them requires *watching* the movie, while 
>> the other specifically *excludes* it.  I hope this now helps you put 
>> that perennial soapbox to better use -- say, as firewood.
>>
>> Netflix, meanwhile, is afaics
> 
> 
> You can't see two feet in front of your face then.  Look, you're not a 
> bad guy and you're an enthusiast, that's the good news.  The bad news is 
> you're mentally lazy and don't mind spouting ignorance.  In case it 
> isn't clear I fucking hate that shit. Keep in mind that you were the guy 
> that held on to watching pieces of plastic, DVDs, as long as you could. 
> Old guys don't like to adopt new technology in general.  I'm an 
> electronics junkie and I'm like that myself to some degree.  However, I 
> do have a pretty good feel for what sells and what doesn't, so that end, 
> here's an article from last June:
> 
> http://www.businessinsider.com/netflix-more-popular-than-cable-us-c... 
> 
> 
>> More people now subscribe to Netflix than cable TV in the US
>>
>>     Jeff Dunn
>>
>>     Jun. 15, 2017, 7:00 PM 7,604
>> Netflix is becoming as much a staple of the American home as cable TV 
>> — even more so.
>>
>> In the first quarter of this year, the number of US Netflix 
>> subscribers overtook the number of American cable TV subscribers for 
>> the first time, according to a recent study by Leichtman Research 
>> Group charted for us by Statista. While Netflix has rapidly gained new 
>> subscribers, cable has been slowly losing them. 
> 
> 
> So please, for your own sake, just shut the fuck up until you can get 
> even the vaguest grasp of the facts.  Is this what you want, to sound 
> absolutely ignorant like a "RichA" or BTRwhogivesafuck?  I'll bet you 
> don't.  You sound REALLY stupid when a monstrous business venture such 
> as Netflix is described like it's some kind of gonzo pirate TV set up. 
> REALLY STUPID.  Jeff Bezos is the richest guy in the world and yet I'd 
> bet money that he'd give his left nut to have Amazon Prime Video do what 
> Netflix is doing.  Is any of this getting through to you at all?

Regardless of its D&B rating, I maintain that Netflix is perceived as 
the upstart innovator -- the "indie", if you like -- when it comes to 
programming.  Nobody says, "Here's a good story I hope CBS picks up."

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> Regardless of its D&B rating, I maintain that Netflix is perceived as 
> the upstart innovator -- the "indie", if you like -- when it comes to 
> programming.  Nobody says, "Here's a good story I hope CBS picks up."
> 
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>> Regardless of its D&B rating, I maintain that Netflix is perceived as
>> the upstart innovator -- the "indie", if you like -- when it comes to
>> programming.  Nobody says, "Here's a good story I hope CBS picks up."
>>
> Why do you even respond to that arrogant and juvenile twit. I wonder if he sputters while he types.
> 


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> 
> I knew you'd egest a pile o' shit on this thread!

What gets me is that the wronger you are, the more obnoxious and insipid your posts become. As if
you could shout down reality. 

	
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>> I knew you'd egest a pile o' shit on this thread!
> 
> What gets me is that the wronger you are, the more obnoxious and insipid your posts become. As if
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> 


Whatever.  You have the worst case of pot calling the kettle black 
syndrome I've ever seen.  Hey, here's a thought: I dare you to comment 
cogently on the gist of what I said. 

	
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> Whatever.  You have the worst case of pot calling the kettle black 
> syndrome I've ever seen.  Hey, here's a thought: I dare you to comment 
> cogently on the gist of what I said.

Since your posts lack any cogency, that would be difficult. You -- by the gists of your posts --
show a lack of information about what Hollywood fears and what defines as a threat. You are lost in
meaningless numbers a history you are completely ignorant of. 

	
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>> Whatever.  You have the worst case of pot calling the kettle black
>> syndrome I've ever seen.  Hey, here's a thought: I dare you to comment
>> cogently on the gist of what I said.
> 
> Since your posts lack any cogency, that would be difficult. 


Excellent job of rising to the occasion.  You stay dimwitted, mmkay? 

	
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> 
> 
> Excellent job of rising to the occasion.  You stay dimwitted, mmkay?

And you snip my posts like the sniveling maggot that you are. 

	
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>>> Since your posts lack any cogency, that would be difficult.
>>
>>
>> Excellent job of rising to the occasion.  You stay dimwitted, mmkay?
> 
> And you snip my posts like the sniveling maggot that you are.


When you're asked a specific question and you lack the necessary 
apparatus to answer who the fuck cares? 

	
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> When you're asked a specific question and you lack the necessary 
> apparatus to answer who the fuck cares?

No one cares what you think. That's why you're so angry and so gender confused. 

	
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>> When you're asked a specific question and you lack the necessary
>> apparatus to answer who the fuck cares?
> 
> No one cares what you think. That's why you're so angry and so gender confused.


Yes!  Heretofore this shall be known as the "wee willy paradox." 

	
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On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 2:59:44 PM UTC-5, Greg Singh wrote:
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> Yes!  Heretofore this shall be known as the "wee willy paradox."

No one cares. It's really sad. I'd feel bad for you but you're such a worthless asshole, why bother
when I can taunt you while you dream about my dick. 

	
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On 2/11/18 3:56 PM, william ahearn wrote:
> On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 2:59:44 PM UTC-5, Greg Singh wrote:
>>
>> Yes!  Heretofore this shall be known as the "wee willy paradox."
> 
> No one cares. It's really sad. 


It is.  In your last post you made an incredibly weak attempt to respond 
to the topic and now you're back to this.  You're like a pinball machine 
reading "tilt".  Rather than being a didactic prick I know how to have 
discussions on Usenet and you're jealous as fuck. 

	
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On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 6:51:52 AM UTC-5, Greg Singh wrote:
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> It is.  In your last post you made an incredibly weak attempt to respond 
> to the topic and now you're back to this.  You're like a pinball machine 
> reading "tilt".  Rather than being a didactic prick I know how to have 
> discussions on Usenet and you're jealous as fuck.

What is really sad is that you actually believe that. 

	
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On 2/8/2018 4:39 PM, moviePig wrote:

> Regardless of its D&B rating, I maintain that Netflix is perceived as 
> the upstart innovator -- the "indie", if you like -- when it comes to 
> programming.  Nobody says, "Here's a good story I hope CBS picks up."

People certainly expect Netflix to act more like HBO than even like 
cable TV.  Netflix isn't going to have to worry about nudity and 
violence, much less naughty words.  Netflix isn't going to have to worry 
about keeping advertisers pleased.  And yes, Netflix has surpassed HBO 
in terms of offering viewers up content without worrying about whether 
or not they are capable of reading (subtitles) and Netflix has surpassed 
HBO in terms of offering variety of programming and in terms of 
*slightly* freeing up the confines of tv show runtime. 

	
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On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 9:49:37 AM UTC-5, moviePig wrote:
> On 2/5/2018 8:48 PM, bermuda999 wrote:
> > On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 6:03:53 AM UTC-5, Greg Singh wrote:
> >> Doesn't sound too good:
> >>
> >> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/05/the-cloverfield-paradox...
> > 
> > 
> > As mentioned in your link, it was originally a cheap sci-fi movie called "God Particle"
unrelated to Cloverfield. It was retro-fitted with references to Cloverfield.
> > 
> > 
> > The Cloverfield Paradox Lands With a Thud"
> >
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/02/the-clover...
> > 
> > "The Cloverfield Paradox should have been a comedy — and almost is one"
> > (Netflix’s abrupt release of the third Cloverfield film was apparently meant to beat the bad
press)
> >
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/5/16976184/cloverfield-paradox-revie...
> 
> This kind of info is what we pay you for.  Many thanks for the two hours 
> I'd never get back...
> 
> -- 


I'd hate to be the reason you missed out on all the "Cloververse" real and imagined connections and
Easter eggs (and apparently a Big Sync).

That said, here is a quote from the writer of the original spec script for "God Particle", Oren
Uziel:

“It was written before 10 Cloverfield Lane and the expanded Cloverfield universe even existed as a
thing. It was a spec that I wrote probably a year or so after Shimmer Lake, so it definitely existed
as its own science-fiction. And then after years of, you know how scripts kind of hang
around—people like them but for whatever reason they decided to make it and then suddenly
everything fell into place with J.J. [Abrams], Bad Robot, and Paramount. I don’t know exactly when
it became a Cloverfield movie, but I suspect in this current market where it’s just harder and
harder to market an original movie of any kind, a science-fiction movie in particular, but I think
everyone just knew if it fits—and it does—into that Cloverfield world, it should, and it can
only help.”

and they are apparently pushing the idea that this was just a one-time deal with Netflix, and that
future Clover installments (including the upcoming "Overlord") will be in theaters