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From: Bradley K. Sperman <bksperman@outlook.com>
Subject: Apple fires iPhone X engineer after idiot "LOOK @ME!" daughter'shands-on video goes viral
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Attention whore daughter costs father his job and possibly his 
career.  "Can't trust this guy...with secrets"

Apple has reportedly dismissed an engineer after his daughter 

	
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Am 06.11.17 um 14:03 schrieb Bradley K. Sperman:
> Attention whore daughter costs father his job and possibly his
> career.  "Can't trust this guy...with secrets"
> 
> Apple has reportedly dismissed an engineer after his daughter�s


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               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

One more troll using one of these anonymous trollservers that need no 
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From: Mats Peterson <matsp888@yahoo.com>
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From: Mats Peterson <matsp888@yahoo.com>
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Joerg Lorenz<hugybear@gmx.ch> Wrote in message:
> Am 06.11.17 um 14:03 schrieb Bradley K. Sperman:
>> Attention whore daughter costs father his job and possibly his
>> career.  "Can't trust this guy...with secrets"
>> 
>> Apple has reportedly dismissed an engineer after his daughters
> 
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> Path: 
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>                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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> One more troll using one of these anonymous trollservers that need no 
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> 

I notice it by the few headers as well...

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From: Bradley <bradley@panix.com>
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On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 18:18:26 +0100 (CET), Mats Peterson<matsp888@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Joerg Lorenz<hugybear@gmx.ch> Wrote in message:
>> Am 06.11.17 um 14:03 schrieb Bradley K. Sperman:
>>> Attention whore daughter costs father his job and possibly his
>>> career.  "Can't trust this guy...with secrets"
>>> 
>>> Apple has reportedly dismissed an engineer after his daughters
>> 
>> 
>> Path: 
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>>                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> 
>> One more troll using one of these anonymous trollservers that need no 
>> registration.
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>
>I notice it by the few headers as well...

Compassion for a father losing his job because of attention addicted
offspring noted. 

	
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From: Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
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In message<pr040dlnbg77huftl76ieuk4h8t5u0o69v@4ax.com> Bradley<bradley@panix.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 18:18:26 +0100 (CET), Mats Peterson
><matsp888@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>Joerg Lorenz<hugybear@gmx.ch> Wrote in message:
>>> Am 06.11.17 um 14:03 schrieb Bradley K. Sperman:
>>>> Attention whore daughter costs father his job and possibly his
>>>> career.  "Can't trust this guy...with secrets"
>>>> 
>>>> Apple has reportedly dismissed an engineer after his daughters
>>> 
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>>
>>I notice it by the few headers as well...

> Compassion for a father losing his job because of attention addicted
> offspring noted.

No, there is no sense of compassion for someone who stupidly violated
about 50 different rules that Apple specifically and repeatedly tells
employees about.

Even letting his daughter *use* his phone could easily have resulted in
his being fired.

This is not a mystery. People who have never worked at Apple know about
these rules. Employees were reminded of these rules after the iPhone
announcement.

-- 
'But you ain't part of it, are you?' said Granny conversationally. 'You
try, but you always find yourself watchin' yourself watchin' people, eh?
Never quite believin' anything? Thinkin' the wrong thoughts?' 

	
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In article<slrnp04s9o.rjv.g.kreme@snow.local>, Lewis<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> No, there is no sense of compassion for someone who stupidly violated
> about 50 different rules that Apple specifically and repeatedly tells
> employees about.
> 
> Even letting his daughter *use* his phone could easily have resulted in
> his being fired.
> 
> This is not a mystery. People who have never worked at Apple know about
> these rules. Employees were reminded of these rules after the iPhone
> announcement.

Back in the 90's, I worked for Apple and was periodically "reminded" by
Apple lawyers about my non-disclosure obligations.... Yeah. There was
no question about it. 

	
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> In article<slrnp04s9o.rjv.g.kreme@snow.local>, Lewis
><g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
>> No, there is no sense of compassion for someone who stupidly violated
>> about 50 different rules that Apple specifically and repeatedly tells
>> employees about.
>>
>> Even letting his daughter *use* his phone could easily have resulted in
>> his being fired.
>>
>> This is not a mystery. People who have never worked at Apple know about
>> these rules. Employees were reminded of these rules after the iPhone
>> announcement.
> 
> Back in the 90's, I worked for Apple and was periodically "reminded" by
> Apple lawyers about my non-disclosure obligations.... Yeah. There was
> no question about it.
> 

I did beta testing for MS, and was continually reminded of my NDA. They 
were absolutely right.

-- 
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Troll. 

	
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> 
> Troll.
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Your header anonymous troll:
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I like the Youtube videos where they shoot iPhones with .50 caliber rifles. 

	
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> I like the Youtube videos where they shoot iPhones with .50 caliber rifles.

A .50 BMG hitting any phone, iPhone or Android is without question, going to 
destroy it. So it is just an act of destruction, not a test. There isn’t 
very much, from iPhone to engine block which can withstand the impact from 
that almost 100 year old cartridge.

-- 

Regards,
Savageduck 

	
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>On Nov 6, 2017, Rich A wrote
>(in article<95df9efc-906b-4e73-894d-91d964fac9a5@googlegroups.com>):
>
>> I like the Youtube videos where they shoot iPhones with .50 caliber rifles.
>
>A .50 BMG hitting any phone, iPhone or Android is without question, going to 
>destroy it. 

NO WAY! Mine has Gorilla Glass... 

	
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> On Mon, 06 Nov 2017 21:01:11 -0800, Savageduck
> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>  wrote:
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> > On Nov 6, 2017, Rich A wrote
> > (in article<95df9efc-906b-4e73-894d-91d964fac9a5@googlegroups.com>):
> >
> > > I like the Youtube videos where they shoot iPhones with .50 caliber rifles.
> >
> > A .50 BMG hitting any phone, iPhone or Android is without question, going to
> > destroy it.
>
> NO WAY! Mine has Gorilla Glass...

;-)

-- 

Regards,
Savageduck 

	
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> > I like the Youtube videos where they shoot iPhones with .50 caliber rifles.
> 
> A .50 BMG hitting any phone, iPhone or Android is without question, going to 
> destroy it. 

unless you have one of these:

<https://newatlas.com/bulletproof-iphone-case-marudai/22195/>
  The armored case features an inch of solid steel embedded in the
  back, which is what gives the phone cover its bulletproof ability. To
  attach the case, the phone has to literally be bolted in using an
  Allen wrench. Marudai also claim that a bullet hitting one of the
  bolts will still leave your iPhone undamaged. But while the back of
  the case is solidly protected, the front screen is still completely
  uncovered so the phone's touchscreen can still be used. 

	
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In article <071120170107575890%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
 nospam<nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article<0001HW.1FB1759700039E0670000C23F2CF@news.giganews.com>,
> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> 
> > > I like the Youtube videos where they shoot iPhones with .50 caliber 
> > > rifles.
> > 
> > A .50 BMG hitting any phone, iPhone or Android is without question, going 
> > to 
> > destroy it. 
> 
> unless you have one of these:
> 
> <https://newatlas.com/bulletproof-iphone-case-marudai/22195/>
>   The armored case features an inch of solid steel embedded in the
>   back, which is what gives the phone cover its bulletproof ability. To
>   attach the case, the phone has to literally be bolted in using an
>   Allen wrench. Marudai also claim that a bullet hitting one of the
>   bolts will still leave your iPhone undamaged. But while the back of
>   the case is solidly protected, the front screen is still completely
>   uncovered so the phone's touchscreen can still be used.

make sure to keep the back side out then... wouldn't the b p west 
protect it?
-- 
teleportation kills 

	
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On Nov 6, 2017, android wrote
(in article<here-E0ECBC.07151107112017@news.individual.net>):

> In article<071120170107575890%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
> nospam<nospam@nospam.invalid>  wrote:
>
> > In article<0001HW.1FB1759700039E0670000C23F2CF@news.giganews.com>,
> > Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>  wrote:
> >
> > > > I like the Youtube videos where they shoot iPhones with .50 caliber
> > > > rifles.
> > >
> > > A .50 BMG hitting any phone, iPhone or Android is without question, going
> > > to
> > > destroy it.
> >
> > unless you have one of these:
> >
> > <https://newatlas.com/bulletproof-iphone-case-marudai/22195/>
> > The armored case features an inch of solid steel embedded in the
> > back, which is what gives the phone cover its bulletproof ability. To
> > attach the case, the phone has to literally be bolted in using an
> > Allen wrench. Marudai also claim that a bullet hitting one of the
> > bolts will still leave your iPhone undamaged. But while the back of
> > the case is solidly protected, the front screen is still completely
> > uncovered so the phone's touchscreen can still be used.
>
> make sure to keep the back side out then... wouldn't the b p west
> protect it?

Not from a .50 BMG, even if you had it behind a ceramic impact plate. Those 
are pretty good for protection against most .30 cal ammo.

-- 

Regards,
Savageduck 

	
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> On Nov 6, 2017, android wrote
> (in article<here-E0ECBC.07151107112017@news.individual.net>):
> 
> > In article<071120170107575890%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
> > nospam<nospam@nospam.invalid>  wrote:
> >
> > > In article<0001HW.1FB1759700039E0670000C23F2CF@news.giganews.com>,
> > > Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>  wrote:
> > >
> > > > > I like the Youtube videos where they shoot iPhones with .50 caliber
> > > > > rifles.
> > > >
> > > > A .50 BMG hitting any phone, iPhone or Android is without question, 
> > > > going
> > > > to
> > > > destroy it.
> > >
> > > unless you have one of these:
> > >
> > > <https://newatlas.com/bulletproof-iphone-case-marudai/22195/>
> > > The armored case features an inch of solid steel embedded in the
> > > back, which is what gives the phone cover its bulletproof ability. To
> > > attach the case, the phone has to literally be bolted in using an
> > > Allen wrench. Marudai also claim that a bullet hitting one of the
> > > bolts will still leave your iPhone undamaged. But while the back of
> > > the case is solidly protected, the front screen is still completely
> > > uncovered so the phone's touchscreen can still be used.
> >
> > make sure to keep the back side out then... wouldn't the b p west
> > protect it?
> 
> Not from a .50 BMG, even if you had it behind a ceramic impact plate. Those 
> are pretty good for protection against most .30 cal ammo.

Not much use for a phone if you're dead. I was thinking more of gear 
protection in general. It, the phone could protect a tad if an assassin 
is aiming at your temple though...
-- 
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> In article<0001HW.1FB18B9F0008C7F870000C23F2CF@news.giganews.com>,
>  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Nov 6, 2017, android wrote
> > (in article<here-E0ECBC.07151107112017@news.individual.net>):
> > 
> > > In article<071120170107575890%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
> > > nospam<nospam@nospam.invalid>  wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article<0001HW.1FB1759700039E0670000C23F2CF@news.giganews.com>,
> > > > Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > I like the Youtube videos where they shoot iPhones with .50 caliber
> > > > > > rifles.
> > > > >
> > > > > A .50 BMG hitting any phone, iPhone or Android is without question, 
> > > > > going
> > > > > to
> > > > > destroy it.
> > > >
> > > > unless you have one of these:
> > > >
> > > > <https://newatlas.com/bulletproof-iphone-case-marudai/22195/>
> > > > The armored case features an inch of solid steel embedded in the
> > > > back, which is what gives the phone cover its bulletproof ability. To
> > > > attach the case, the phone has to literally be bolted in using an
> > > > Allen wrench. Marudai also claim that a bullet hitting one of the
> > > > bolts will still leave your iPhone undamaged. But while the back of
> > > > the case is solidly protected, the front screen is still completely
> > > > uncovered so the phone's touchscreen can still be used.
> > >
> > > make sure to keep the back side out then... wouldn't the b p west
> > > protect it?
> > 
> > Not from a .50 BMG, even if you had it behind a ceramic impact plate. Those 
> > are pretty good for protection against most .30 cal ammo.
> 
> Not much use for a phone if you're dead. I was thinking more of gear 
> protection in general. It, the phone could protect a tad if an assassin 
> is aiming at your temple though...
> -- 
> teleportation kills

You wouldn't be a very good assassin if you aimed at the phone.
That's one mistake Lee Harvey Oswald didn't make ;-) 

	
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> On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 09:13:50 UTC, android  wrote:
> > In article<0001HW.1FB18B9F0008C7F870000C23F2CF@news.giganews.com>,
> >  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Nov 6, 2017, android wrote
> > > (in article<here-E0ECBC.07151107112017@news.individual.net>):
> > > 
> > > > In article<071120170107575890%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
> > > > nospam<nospam@nospam.invalid>  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > In article<0001HW.1FB1759700039E0670000C23F2CF@news.giganews.com>,
> > > > > Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > I like the Youtube videos where they shoot iPhones with .50 
> > > > > > > caliber
> > > > > > > rifles.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A .50 BMG hitting any phone, iPhone or Android is without question, 
> > > > > > going
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > destroy it.
> > > > >
> > > > > unless you have one of these:
> > > > >
> > > > > <https://newatlas.com/bulletproof-iphone-case-marudai/22195/>
> > > > > The armored case features an inch of solid steel embedded in the
> > > > > back, which is what gives the phone cover its bulletproof ability. To
> > > > > attach the case, the phone has to literally be bolted in using an
> > > > > Allen wrench. Marudai also claim that a bullet hitting one of the
> > > > > bolts will still leave your iPhone undamaged. But while the back of
> > > > > the case is solidly protected, the front screen is still completely
> > > > > uncovered so the phone's touchscreen can still be used.
> > > >
> > > > make sure to keep the back side out then... wouldn't the b p west
> > > > protect it?
> > > 
> > > Not from a .50 BMG, even if you had it behind a ceramic impact plate. 
> > > Those 
> > > are pretty good for protection against most .30 cal ammo.
> > 
> > Not much use for a phone if you're dead. I was thinking more of gear 
> > protection in general. It, the phone could protect a tad if an assassin 
> > is aiming at your temple though...
> > -- 
> > teleportation kills
> 
> You wouldn't be a very good assassin if you aimed at the phone.
> That's one mistake Lee Harvey Oswald didn't make ;-)

You use facetime all the time right? :-ppp
-- 
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On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 10:54:44 UTC, android  wrote:
> In article<a042be6e-ad86-40e8-838a-6cc27e3a2825@googlegroups.com>,
>  Whisky-dave<whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 09:13:50 UTC, android  wrote:
> > > In article<0001HW.1FB18B9F0008C7F870000C23F2CF@news.giganews.com>,
> > >  Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Nov 6, 2017, android wrote
> > > > (in article<here-E0ECBC.07151107112017@news.individual.net>):
> > > > 
> > > > > In article<071120170107575890%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
> > > > > nospam<nospam@nospam.invalid>  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > In article<0001HW.1FB1759700039E0670000C23F2CF@news.giganews.com>,
> > > > > > Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I like the Youtube videos where they shoot iPhones with .50 
> > > > > > > > caliber
> > > > > > > > rifles.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A .50 BMG hitting any phone, iPhone or Android is without question, 
> > > > > > > going
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > destroy it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > unless you have one of these:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <https://newatlas.com/bulletproof-iphone-case-marudai/22195/>
> > > > > > The armored case features an inch of solid steel embedded in the
> > > > > > back, which is what gives the phone cover its bulletproof ability. To
> > > > > > attach the case, the phone has to literally be bolted in using an
> > > > > > Allen wrench. Marudai also claim that a bullet hitting one of the
> > > > > > bolts will still leave your iPhone undamaged. But while the back of
> > > > > > the case is solidly protected, the front screen is still completely
> > > > > > uncovered so the phone's touchscreen can still be used.
> > > > >
> > > > > make sure to keep the back side out then... wouldn't the b p west
> > > > > protect it?
> > > > 
> > > > Not from a .50 BMG, even if you had it behind a ceramic impact plate. 
> > > > Those 
> > > > are pretty good for protection against most .30 cal ammo.
> > > 
> > > Not much use for a phone if you're dead. I was thinking more of gear 
> > > protection in general. It, the phone could protect a tad if an assassin 
> > > is aiming at your temple though...
> > > -- 
> > > teleportation kills
> > 
> > You wouldn't be a very good assassin if you aimed at the phone.
> > That's one mistake Lee Harvey Oswald didn't make ;-)
> 
> You use facetime all the time right? :-ppp

I've used it once and that was it, I've used skype less than 10 times in total I don;t likke video
calls and aviod them when I can. 

	
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> > You use facetime all the time right? :-ppp
> 
> I've used it once and that was it, I've used skype less than 10 times in 
> total I don;t likke video calls and aviod them when I can.

Most phones and services allow video calls without any third party 
servers involved. Most 3G phones can handle them out of the box...
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On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 14:17:43 UTC, android  wrote:
> In article<6e531cd4-b458-480e-9d66-a7da4bafdd25@googlegroups.com>,
>  Whisky-dave<whisky.dave@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > > You use facetime all the time right? :-ppp
> > 
> > I've used it once and that was it, I've used skype less than 10 times in 
> > total I don;t likke video calls and aviod them when I can.
> 
> Most phones and services allow video calls without any third party 
> servers involved. Most 3G phones can handle them out of the box...

My iMac, iphone on 4G,  and ipad can do video calls.
about 3 weeks ago I used skype on my imac for a call from melborne Australia  used it for about
40mins, haven't used it since. 

	
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On Nov 7, 2017, Whisky-dave wrote
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> On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 10:54:44 UTC, android wrote:

<<Snip>>

> >
> > You use facetime all the time right? :-ppp
>
> I've used it once and that was it, I've used skype less than 10 times in
> total I don;t likke video calls and aviod them when I can.

Both Facetime, and Skype, using either video, and/or audio only calls can be 
useful, and a valuable tool.

I use Facetime, and/or Skype everyday. I have a daily, 20 minute to an hour 
+, Facetime video call with my 94 year old father. Most of my other calls are 
are not video, just audio.

I have a good friend who lives in Nashville, and is in the music business, he 
also uses FT and Skype, depending on where he is, and what he might be using, 
we will speak once or twice a week via FT, or Skype audio call. He uses the 
Skype ’screen sharing’ feature for business between Nashville and NYC, or 
Europe.

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> You wouldn't be a very good assassin if you aimed at the phone.
> That's one mistake Lee Harvey Oswald didn't make ;-)

he had help. 

	
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> On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 09:13:50 UTC, android  wrote:
>> In article<0001HW.1FB18B9F0008C7F870000C23F2CF@news.giganews.com>,
>>   Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Nov 6, 2017, android wrote
>>> (in article<here-E0ECBC.07151107112017@news.individual.net>):
>>>
>>>> In article<071120170107575890%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
>>>> nospam<nospam@nospam.invalid>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article<0001HW.1FB1759700039E0670000C23F2CF@news.giganews.com>,
>>>>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like the Youtube videos where they shoot iPhones with .50 caliber
>>>>>>> rifles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A .50 BMG hitting any phone, iPhone or Android is without question,
>>>>>> going
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> destroy it.
>>>>>
>>>>> unless you have one of these:
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://newatlas.com/bulletproof-iphone-case-marudai/22195/>
>>>>> The armored case features an inch of solid steel embedded in the
>>>>> back, which is what gives the phone cover its bulletproof ability. To
>>>>> attach the case, the phone has to literally be bolted in using an
>>>>> Allen wrench. Marudai also claim that a bullet hitting one of the
>>>>> bolts will still leave your iPhone undamaged. But while the back of
>>>>> the case is solidly protected, the front screen is still completely
>>>>> uncovered so the phone's touchscreen can still be used.
>>>>
>>>> make sure to keep the back side out then... wouldn't the b p west
>>>> protect it?
>>>
>>> Not from a .50 BMG, even if you had it behind a ceramic impact plate. Those
>>> are pretty good for protection against most .30 cal ammo.
>>
>> Not much use for a phone if you're dead. I was thinking more of gear
>> protection in general. It, the phone could protect a tad if an assassin
>> is aiming at your temple though...
>> -- 
>> teleportation kills
> 
> You wouldn't be a very good assassin if you aimed at the phone.
> That's one mistake Lee Harvey Oswald didn't make ;-)
> 
> 
I don't think Kennedy was using his cell phone at the time.

-- 
Ken Hart
kwhart1@frontier.com 

	
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On Nov 7, 2017, Ken Hart wrote
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> On 11/07/2017 05:08 AM, Whisky-dave wrote:
> > On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 09:13:50 UTC, android wrote:
> > > In article<0001HW.1FB18B9F0008C7F870000C23F2CF@news.giganews.com>,
> > > Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>  wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Nov 6, 2017, android wrote
> > > > (in article<here-E0ECBC.07151107112017@news.individual.net>):
> > > >
> > > > > In article<071120170107575890%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
> > > > > nospam<nospam@nospam.invalid>  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > In article<0001HW.1FB1759700039E0670000C23F2CF@news.giganews.com>,
> > > > > > Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I like the Youtube videos where they shoot iPhones with .50 caliber
> > > > > > > > rifles.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A .50 BMG hitting any phone, iPhone or Android is without question,
> > > > > > > going to destroy it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > unless you have one of these:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <https://newatlas.com/bulletproof-iphone-case-marudai/22195/>
> > > > > > The armored case features an inch of solid steel embedded in the
> > > > > > back, which is what gives the phone cover its bulletproof ability. To
> > > > > > attach the case, the phone has to literally be bolted in using an
> > > > > > Allen wrench. Marudai also claim that a bullet hitting one of the
> > > > > > bolts will still leave your iPhone undamaged. But while the back of
> > > > > > the case is solidly protected, the front screen is still completely
> > > > > > uncovered so the phone's touchscreen can still be used.
> > > > >
> > > > > make sure to keep the back side out then... wouldn't the b p west
> > > > > protect it?
> > > >
> > > > Not from a .50 BMG, even if you had it behind a ceramic impact plate.
> > > > Those are pretty good for protection against most .30 cal ammo.
> > >
> > > Not much use for a phone if you're dead. I was thinking more of gear
> > > protection in general. It, the phone could protect a tad if an assassin
> > > is aiming at your temple though...
> >
> > You wouldn't be a very good assassin if you aimed at the phone.
> > That's one mistake Lee Harvey Oswald didn't make ;-)
> I don't think Kennedy was using his cell phone at the time.

....and if he did have that particular armored phone, nobody told him he 
should hold it to the back of his head for the entire drive.

-- 

Regards,
Savageduck 

	
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In article<0001HW.1FB2AB3C004C304770000C23F2CF@news.giganews.com>,
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> > > > Not much use for a phone if you're dead. I was thinking more of gear
> > > > protection in general. It, the phone could protect a tad if an assassin
> > > > is aiming at your temple though...
> > >
> > > You wouldn't be a very good assassin if you aimed at the phone.
> > > That's one mistake Lee Harvey Oswald didn't make ;-)
> > I don't think Kennedy was using his cell phone at the time.
> 
> ...and if he did have that particular armored phone, nobody told him he 
> should hold it to the back of his head for the entire drive.

front of his head. 

	
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On Nov 7, 2017, nospam wrote
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> In article<0001HW.1FB2AB3C004C304770000C23F2CF@news.giganews.com>,
> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>  wrote:
>
> > > > > Not much use for a phone if you're dead. I was thinking more of gear
> > > > > protection in general. It, the phone could protect a tad if an assassin
> > > > > is aiming at your temple though...
> > > >
> > > > You wouldn't be a very good assassin if you aimed at the phone.
> > > > That's one mistake Lee Harvey Oswald didn't make ;-)
> > > I don't think Kennedy was using his cell phone at the time.
> >
> > ...and if he did have that particular armored phone, nobody told him he
> > should hold it to the back of his head for the entire drive.
>
> front of his head.

Not a proponent of the lone shooter theory I see.

In that case he should have just encased his head in the phone armor.

-- 

Regards,
Savageduck 

	
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In article<0001HW.1FB2AD8B004CBAE870000C23F2CF@news.giganews.com>,
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> > > > > > Not much use for a phone if you're dead. I was thinking more of gear
> > > > > > protection in general. It, the phone could protect a tad if an
> > > > > > assassin
> > > > > > is aiming at your temple though...
> > > > >
> > > > > You wouldn't be a very good assassin if you aimed at the phone.
> > > > > That's one mistake Lee Harvey Oswald didn't make ;-)
> > > > I don't think Kennedy was using his cell phone at the time.
> > >
> > > ...and if he did have that particular armored phone, nobody told him he
> > > should hold it to the back of his head for the entire drive.
> >
> > front of his head.
> 
> Not a proponent of the lone shooter theory I see.

definitely not.

> In that case he should have just encased his head in the phone armor.

that's a different type of case. 

	
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>On Nov 7, 2017, nospam wrote
>(in article<071120172204379603%nospam@nospam.invalid>):
>
>> In article<0001HW.1FB2AB3C004C304770000C23F2CF@news.giganews.com>,
>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>  wrote:
>>
>> > > > > Not much use for a phone if you're dead. I was thinking more of gear
>> > > > > protection in general. It, the phone could protect a tad if an assassin
>> > > > > is aiming at your temple though...
>> > > >
>> > > > You wouldn't be a very good assassin if you aimed at the phone.
>> > > > That's one mistake Lee Harvey Oswald didn't make ;-)
>> > > I don't think Kennedy was using his cell phone at the time.
>> >
>> > ...and if he did have that particular armored phone, nobody told him he
>> > should hold it to the back of his head for the entire drive.
>>
>> front of his head.
>
>Not a proponent of the lone shooter theory I see.

Nor am I.
>
>In that case he should have just encased his head in the phone armor.
-- 

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Eric Stevens 

	
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On Nov 6, 2017, nospam wrote
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> In article<0001HW.1FB1759700039E0670000C23F2CF@news.giganews.com>,
> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>  wrote:
>
> > > I like the Youtube videos where they shoot iPhones with .50 caliber rifles.
> >
> > A .50 BMG hitting any phone, iPhone or Android is without question, going to
> > destroy it.
>
> unless you have one of these:
>
> <https://newatlas.com/bulletproof-iphone-case-marudai/22195/>
> The armored case features an inch of solid steel embedded in the
> back, which is what gives the phone cover its bulletproof ability. To
> attach the case, the phone has to literally be bolted in using an
> Allen wrench. Marudai also claim that a bullet hitting one of the
> bolts will still leave your iPhone undamaged. But while the back of
> the case is solidly protected, the front screen is still completely
> uncovered so the phone's touchscreen can still be used.

The first question is; why would anybody carry a 4.5 Lb phone?

The second is: why wouldn’t you shoot at the screen side of that case?

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> > > > I like the Youtube videos where they shoot iPhones with .50 caliber
> > > > rifles.
> > >
> > > A .50 BMG hitting any phone, iPhone or Android is without question, going
> > > to destroy it.
> >
> > unless you have one of these:
> >
> > <https://newatlas.com/bulletproof-iphone-case-marudai/22195/>
> > The armored case features an inch of solid steel embedded in the
> > back, which is what gives the phone cover its bulletproof ability. To
> > attach the case, the phone has to literally be bolted in using an
> > Allen wrench. Marudai also claim that a bullet hitting one of the
> > bolts will still leave your iPhone undamaged. But while the back of
> > the case is solidly protected, the front screen is still completely
> > uncovered so the phone's touchscreen can still be used.
> 
> The first question is; why would anybody carry a 4.5 Lb phone?

to protect against bullets. obviously.

and it wasn't all that long ago when phones weighed more than that, and
without being able to stop a bullet:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Bag_Phone>

> The second is: why wouldn 

	
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> In article<0001HW.1FB18B000008A2B170000C23F2CF@news.giganews.com>,
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> > > > > I like the Youtube videos where they shoot iPhones with .50 caliber
> > > > > rifles.
> > > >
> > > > A .50 BMG hitting any phone, iPhone or Android is without question, going
> > > > to destroy it.
> > >
> > > unless you have one of these:
> > >
> > > <https://newatlas.com/bulletproof-iphone-case-marudai/22195/>
> > > The armored case features an inch of solid steel embedded in the
> > > back, which is what gives the phone cover its bulletproof ability. To
> > > attach the case, the phone has to literally be bolted in using an
> > > Allen wrench. Marudai also claim that a bullet hitting one of the
> > > bolts will still leave your iPhone undamaged. But while the back of
> > > the case is solidly protected, the front screen is still completely
> > > uncovered so the phone's touchscreen can still be used.
> >
> > The first question is; why would anybody carry a 4.5 Lb phone?
>
> to protect against bullets. obviously.

Other than in a tactical situation, I just never thought of a phone of any 
type, as a primary target for a shooter using any caliber weapon.
>
> and it wasn't all that long ago when phones weighed more than that, and
> without being able to stop a bullet:
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Bag_Phone>

Yup! My old Nokia brick wasn’t exactly a lightweight.
>
> > The second is: why wouldn¹t you shoot at the screen side of that case?
>
> because the display would be facing inward when the phone is in the
> person's pocket.

The likelihood of a targeted individual gaining any protection from an 
armored phone is very small. There also exists the possibility that a .50 BMG 
hitting the body of a targeted individual, and hitting the screen side of the 
armored phone as it traverses the body. It is not likely to save the 
targetted individual.

<https://www.dropbox.com/s/21w9l2lb766x55g/Target-Aw.jpg>

-- 

Regards,
Savageduck 

	
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>On Nov 7, 2017, nospam wrote
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>> In article<0001HW.1FB18B000008A2B170000C23F2CF@news.giganews.com>,
>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>  wrote:
>>
>> > > > > I like the Youtube videos where they shoot iPhones with .50 caliber
>> > > > > rifles.
>> > > >
>> > > > A .50 BMG hitting any phone, iPhone or Android is without question, going
>> > > > to destroy it.
>> > >
>> > > unless you have one of these:
>> > >
>> > > <https://newatlas.com/bulletproof-iphone-case-marudai/22195/>
>> > > The armored case features an inch of solid steel embedded in the
>> > > back, which is what gives the phone cover its bulletproof ability. To
>> > > attach the case, the phone has to literally be bolted in using an
>> > > Allen wrench. Marudai also claim that a bullet hitting one of the
>> > > bolts will still leave your iPhone undamaged. But while the back of
>> > > the case is solidly protected, the front screen is still completely
>> > > uncovered so the phone's touchscreen can still be used.
>> >
>> > The first question is; why would anybody carry a 4.5 Lb phone?
>>
>> to protect against bullets. obviously.
>
>Other than in a tactical situation, I just never thought of a phone of any 
>type, as a primary target for a shooter using any caliber weapon.
>>
>> and it wasn't all that long ago when phones weighed more than that, and
>> without being able to stop a bullet:
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Bag_Phone>
>
>Yup! My old Nokia brick wasn 

	
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> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
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>> On Nov 7, 2017, nospam wrote
>> (in article<071120170952022218%nospam@nospam.invalid>):
>>
>>> In article<0001HW.1FB18B000008A2B170000C23F2CF@news.giganews.com>,
>>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> I like the Youtube videos where they shoot iPhones with .50 caliber
>>>>>>> rifles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A .50 BMG hitting any phone, iPhone or Android is without question, going
>>>>>> to destroy it.
>>>>>
>>>>> unless you have one of these:
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://newatlas.com/bulletproof-iphone-case-marudai/22195/>
>>>>> The armored case features an inch of solid steel embedded in the
>>>>> back, which is what gives the phone cover its bulletproof ability. To
>>>>> attach the case, the phone has to literally be bolted in using an
>>>>> Allen wrench. Marudai also claim that a bullet hitting one of the
>>>>> bolts will still leave your iPhone undamaged. But while the back of
>>>>> the case is solidly protected, the front screen is still completely
>>>>> uncovered so the phone's touchscreen can still be used.
>>>>
>>>> The first question is; why would anybody carry a 4.5 Lb phone?
>>>
>>> to protect against bullets. obviously.
>>
>> Other than in a tactical situation, I just never thought of a phone of any
>> type, as a primary target for a shooter using any caliber weapon.
>>>
>>> and it wasn't all that long ago when phones weighed more than that, and
>>> without being able to stop a bullet:
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Bag_Phone>
>>
>> Yup! My old Nokia brick wasn’t exactly a lightweight.
> 
> My first mobile phone was hard-wired in the car.  The second was a bag
> phone.  Then, a Motorola "brick".  A second battery had to be
> available because the brick wouldn't always hold a charge for a full
> day.  The claimed talk-time was 30 minutes, but that was greatly
> exaggerated.  I didn't have a in-car charging system that plugged into
> the cigar lighter.  I don't think they were available then, but I
> might be wrong.
> 


IIRC mine sat in a transmission and charging unit, in my car.

-- 
PeterN 

	
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> > My first mobile phone was hard-wired in the car.  The second was a bag
> > phone.  Then, a Motorola "brick".  A second battery had to be
> > available because the brick wouldn't always hold a charge for a full
> > day.  The claimed talk-time was 30 minutes, but that was greatly
> > exaggerated.  I didn't have a in-car charging system that plugged into
> > the cigar lighter.  I don't think they were available then, but I
> > might be wrong.
> > 
> 
> IIRC mine sat in a transmission and charging unit, in my car.

standard or automatic? 

	
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>On 11/7/2017 1:06 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
>> On Tue, 07 Nov 2017 07:44:38 -0800, Savageduck
>> <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2017, nospam wrote
>>> (in article<071120170952022218%nospam@nospam.invalid>):
>>>
>>>> In article<0001HW.1FB18B000008A2B170000C23F2CF@news.giganews.com>,
>>>> Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> I like the Youtube videos where they shoot iPhones with .50 caliber
>>>>>>>> rifles.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A .50 BMG hitting any phone, iPhone or Android is without question, going
>>>>>>> to destroy it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> unless you have one of these:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://newatlas.com/bulletproof-iphone-case-marudai/22195/>
>>>>>> The armored case features an inch of solid steel embedded in the
>>>>>> back, which is what gives the phone cover its bulletproof ability. To
>>>>>> attach the case, the phone has to literally be bolted in using an
>>>>>> Allen wrench. Marudai also claim that a bullet hitting one of the
>>>>>> bolts will still leave your iPhone undamaged. But while the back of
>>>>>> the case is solidly protected, the front screen is still completely
>>>>>> uncovered so the phone's touchscreen can still be used.
>>>>>
>>>>> The first question is; why would anybody carry a 4.5 Lb phone?
>>>>
>>>> to protect against bullets. obviously.
>>>
>>> Other than in a tactical situation, I just never thought of a phone of any
>>> type, as a primary target for a shooter using any caliber weapon.
>>>>
>>>> and it wasn't all that long ago when phones weighed more than that, and
>>>> without being able to stop a bullet:
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Bag_Phone>
>>>
>>> Yup! My old Nokia brick wasn’t exactly a lightweight.
>> 
>> My first mobile phone was hard-wired in the car.  The second was a bag
>> phone.  Then, a Motorola "brick".  A second battery had to be
>> available because the brick wouldn't always hold a charge for a full
>> day.  The claimed talk-time was 30 minutes, but that was greatly
>> exaggerated.  I didn't have a in-car charging system that plugged into
>> the cigar lighter.  I don't think they were available then, but I
>> might be wrong.
>> 
>
>
>IIRC mine sat in a transmission and charging unit, in my car.

My first cellphone was a Mitsubishi.

When it was installed in mycar, there was a box which clipped onto a
frame on the back of the back seat, inside the trunk. There was a
shoe, which included a speaker, mounted between the two front seats
into which the handpiece was clipped. It had a remote microphone at
the top of the windscreen. I could control the whole thing from the
hand peice and use it as a hands free phone.

If I wanted to use it as a hand-carry phone I had to unclip the hand
piece from it's shoe, unplug the cable which connected the hand piece
to the shoe, and then remove the box from the trunk. I could then plug
the hand peice into the box and - voila - I had a phone which I could
use while I walked around. Mind you it took two hands. See
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/GnwAAOSwKkhZsqkV/s-l225.jpg for a
slightly hacked around one on Ebay.
-- 

Regards,

Eric Stevens 

	
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> 
>>> I like the Youtube videos where they shoot iPhones with .50 caliber rifles.
>>
>> A .50 BMG hitting any phone, iPhone or Android is without question, going to
>> destroy it.
> 
> unless you have one of these:
> 
> <https://newatlas.com/bulletproof-iphone-case-marudai/22195/>
>    The armored case features an inch of solid steel embedded in the
>    back, which is what gives the phone cover its bulletproof ability. To
>    attach the case, the phone has to literally be bolted in using an
>    Allen wrench. Marudai also claim that a bullet hitting one of the
>    bolts will still leave your iPhone undamaged. But while the back of
>    the case is solidly protected, the front screen is still completely
>    uncovered so the phone's touchscreen can still be used.
> 
Maybe they should put an inch of steel on both sides of the phone.

-- 
Ken Hart
kwhart1@frontier.com 

	
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> >> A .50 BMG hitting any phone, iPhone or Android is without question, going
> >> to destroy it.
> > 
> > unless you have one of these:
> > 
> > <https://newatlas.com/bulletproof-iphone-case-marudai/22195/>
> >    The armored case features an inch of solid steel embedded in the
> >    back, which is what gives the phone cover its bulletproof ability. To
> >    attach the case, the phone has to literally be bolted in using an
> >    Allen wrench. Marudai also claim that a bullet hitting one of the
> >    bolts will still leave your iPhone undamaged. But while the back of
> >    the case is solidly protected, the front screen is still completely
> >    uncovered so the phone's touchscreen can still be used.
> > 
> Maybe they should put an inch of steel on both sides of the phone.

buy two cases. 

	
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> > > unless you have one of these:
> > >
> > > <https://newatlas.com/bulletproof-iphone-case-marudai/22195/>
> > > The armored case features an inch of solid steel embedded in the
> > > back, which is what gives the phone cover its bulletproof ability. To
> > > attach the case, the phone has to literally be bolted in using an
> > > Allen wrench. Marudai also claim that a bullet hitting one of the
> > > bolts will still leave your iPhone undamaged. But while the back of
> > > the case is solidly protected, the front screen is still completely
> > > uncovered so the phone's touchscreen can still be used.
> > Maybe they should put an inch of steel on both sides of the phone.
>
> buy two cases.

Damn! It is bad enough to work in a Kevlar vest with a ceramic sternum impact 
plate. I don’t need to carry 9 Lbs of armored phone which is going to do 
nothing to save my ass from damage.

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Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> > > > > A .50 BMG hitting any phone, iPhone or Android is without question,
> > > > > going to destroy it.
> > > >
> > > > unless you have one of these:
> > > >
> > > > <https://newatlas.com/bulletproof-iphone-case-marudai/22195/>
> > > > The armored case features an inch of solid steel embedded in the
> > > > back, which is what gives the phone cover its bulletproof ability. To
> > > > attach the case, the phone has to literally be bolted in using an
> > > > Allen wrench. Marudai also claim that a bullet hitting one of the
> > > > bolts will still leave your iPhone undamaged. But while the back of
> > > > the case is solidly protected, the front screen is still completely
> > > > uncovered so the phone's touchscreen can still be used.
> > > Maybe they should put an inch of steel on both sides of the phone.
> >
> > buy two cases.
> 
> Damn! It is bad enough to work in a Kevlar vest with a ceramic sternum impact 
> plate. I don 

	
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>In article<0001HW.1FB2AC91004C802D70000C23F2CF@news.giganews.com>,
>Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>
>> > > > > A .50 BMG hitting any phone, iPhone or Android is without question,
>> > > > > going to destroy it.
>> > > >
>> > > > unless you have one of these:
>> > > >
>> > > > <https://newatlas.com/bulletproof-iphone-case-marudai/22195/>
>> > > > The armored case features an inch of solid steel embedded in the
>> > > > back, which is what gives the phone cover its bulletproof ability. To
>> > > > attach the case, the phone has to literally be bolted in using an
>> > > > Allen wrench. Marudai also claim that a bullet hitting one of the
>> > > > bolts will still leave your iPhone undamaged. But while the back of
>> > > > the case is solidly protected, the front screen is still completely
>> > > > uncovered so the phone's touchscreen can still be used.
>> > > Maybe they should put an inch of steel on both sides of the phone.
>> >
>> > buy two cases.
>> 
>> Damn! It is bad enough to work in a Kevlar vest with a ceramic sternum impact 
>> plate. I don¹t need to carry 9 Lbs of armored phone which is going to do 
>> nothing to save my ass from damage.
>
>it would if you put it in your back pocket.

It wouldn't get bent either, not in that case.
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> 
> Damn! It is bad enough to work in a Kevlar vest with a ceramic sternum impact
> plate. I don’t need to carry 9 Lbs of armored phone which is going to do
> nothing to save my ass from damage.
> 

You remind me of an AF navigator, who told me he used to fold his flack 
vest, and sit on it. Did your father do things like that?



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> On 11/7/2017 10:08 PM, Savageduck wrote:
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> <snip>
>
> >
> > Damn! It is bad enough to work in a Kevlar vest with a ceramic sternum
> > impact plate. I don’t need to carry 9 Lbs of armored phone which is going to do
> > nothing to save my ass from damage.
>
> You remind me of an AF navigator, who told me he used to fold his flack
> vest, and sit on it. Did your father do things like that?

As a WWII P-38 fighter pilot, flak vests were not an option for my father. 
Especially, in the tropical heat of New Guinea, and the SW Pacific where they 
flew most missions in a shirt, foregoing the archetypical leather flying 
jacket. He was also at 6’3” unusually tall for a WWII fighter pilot. So 
he used a backpack parachute instead of the usual seat-pack chute, and a thin 
pad as a seat cushion. So he wasn’t even sitting on the parachute pack like 
the shorter flyers.

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On 11/06/2017 08:03 AM, Bradley K. Sperman wrote:

> We’ve seen similar dismissals in the past. A Microsoft employee
> was dismissed after his son posted pictures of the Xbox 360
> before its release. The Apple engineer in question had worked at
> the company for around four years, building the iPhone RF and
> wireless circuit design. The Verge reached out to Apple to
> confirm the dismissal, but the company has not yet responded to
> a request for comment.
> 
> How STUPID can you be?
> 
> https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/28/16565110/apple-engineer-
> iphone-x-youtube-video
> 

<https://youtu.be/KYqnmyV1N-w?t=14s>