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At least not for now:

<https://www.fujirumors.com/fujifilm-x-h1-will-fujis-first-ibis-camer...

<http://tinyurl.com/yb5zerdf>
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On Nov 29, 2017, android wrote
(in article<f89k8uF1q43U2@mid.individual.net>):

> At least not for now:
>
> <https://www.fujirumors.com/fujifilm-x-h1-will-fujis-first-ibis-camer...
>
> <http://tinyurl.com/yb5zerdf>

OK! So the proposed Fujifilm IBIS camera will probably be the X-H1 not an 
X-T2S. If that proves to be true, then the designation X-T2S label could be 
given to an intermediate X-T(x) fitting in between the X-T2, and a future 
X-T3, much as the X-E2S came between the X-E2 and the new X-E3. As with the 
X-E3, I see a future X-T3 getting the Touch LCD treatment.

I also suspect that the proposed IBIS X-H1 is going to be optimized for video 
to separate it from the X-Pro2, X-T2, and X-E3.

As far as IBIS goes my two Fujinon lenses which would benefit have OIS, my 
wide primes are fast enough that they do not really need IBIS. With my wide 
primes the only time IBIS might be beneficial, would be in extreme low light 
and slow SS.

For now I will live with my X-T2, and consider an X-E3 to replace my X-E2 as 
a second body. As for the X-E2 I am considering making that a dedicated B&W 
shooter.

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On  2017-11-30 08:13, Savageduck wrote:
> I also suspect that the proposed IBIS X-H1 is going to be optimized for video
> to separate it from the X-Pro2, X-T2, and X-E3.

Uhu... Homemovie One it is!
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On 11/30/2017 2:13 AM, Savageduck wrote:

<snip>


> 
> For now I will live with my X-T2, and consider an X-E3 to replace my X-E2 as
> a second body. As for the X-E2 I am considering making that a dedicated B&W
> shooter.
> 

Do you mean a conversion, or that you would only use it for B&W. Maybe 
my mind is channeled, because I am going to have my D300 converted to 
infrared, and am thinking of a UV conversion.














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> and am thinking of a UV conversion.

you'll need special lenses. 

	
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On 12/1/2017 10:05 AM, nospam wrote:
> In article<ovrr2a03n3@news6.newsguy.com>, PeterN
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>> and am thinking of a UV conversion.
> 
> you'll need special lenses.
> 

I know. I also have some old  Nikkor E lenses, that will transmit in the 
350 -400 range if I remove the coating, because they have very few 
elements. Old lenses and old digital cameras did not have all that much 
UV blocking. While it will not be perfect, and I expect a lot of 
distortion, The combo should be fine for photographic purposes. It is 
definitely not perfect. If I want more, I can always get quartz/fluoride 
lenses.


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On Dec 1, 2017, PeterN wrote
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> On 11/30/2017 2:13 AM, Savageduck wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >
> > For now I will live with my X-T2, and consider an X-E3 to replace my X-E2 as
> > a second body. As for the X-E2 I am considering making that a dedicated B&W
> > shooter.
>
> Do you mean a conversion, or that you would only use it for B&W. Maybe
> my mind is channeled, because I am going to have my D300 converted to
> infrared, and am thinking of a UV conversion.

A conversion has been a consideration. However, the only company currently 
doing B&W conversions is only doing them to Fujifilm X-Pro1 bodies (that is 
among the Fujifilm bodies). So for now I will just be using it for in-camera 
B&W.

These guys also do IR conversions along with their monochrome conversions, 
but the Fujifilm in-camera B&W is pretty good.

<https://www.maxmax.com>
<https://petapixel.com/2017/02/17/fujifilm-monochrome-cameras-4800-ch...
leicas/>

-- 

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On Dec 1, 2017, Savageduck wrote
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> On Dec 1, 2017, PeterN wrote
> (in article<ovrr2a03n3@news6.newsguy.com>):
>
> > On 11/30/2017 2:13 AM, Savageduck wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > >
> > > For now I will live with my X-T2, and consider an X-E3 to replace my X-E2
> > > as
> > > a second body. As for the X-E2 I am considering making that a dedicated B&W
> > > shooter.
> >
> > Do you mean a conversion, or that you would only use it for B&W. Maybe
> > my mind is channeled, because I am going to have my D300 converted to
> > infrared, and am thinking of a UV conversion.
>
> A conversion has been a consideration. However, the only company currently
> doing B&W conversions is only doing them to Fujifilm X-Pro1 bodies (that is
> among the Fujifilm bodies). So for now I will just be using it for in-camera
> B&W.
>
> These guys also do IR conversions along with their monochrome conversions,
> but the Fujifilm in-camera B&W is pretty good.
>
> <https://www.maxmax.com>
>
> <https://petapixel.com/2017/02/17/fujifilm-monochrome-cameras-4800-ch...

....and:

<https://fstoppers.com/gear/maxmax-launches-monochrome-fujifilm-x-pro...
x100s-166132>

-- 

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> On Dec 1, 2017, Savageduck wrote
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> 
>> On Dec 1, 2017, PeterN wrote
>> (in article<ovrr2a03n3@news6.newsguy.com>):
>>
>>> On 11/30/2017 2:13 AM, Savageduck wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> For now I will live with my X-T2, and consider an X-E3 to replace my X-E2
>>>> as
>>>> a second body. As for the X-E2 I am considering making that a dedicated B&W
>>>> shooter.
>>>
>>> Do you mean a conversion, or that you would only use it for B&W. Maybe
>>> my mind is channeled, because I am going to have my D300 converted to
>>> infrared, and am thinking of a UV conversion.
>>
>> A conversion has been a consideration. However, the only company currently
>> doing B&W conversions is only doing them to Fujifilm X-Pro1 bodies (that is
>> among the Fujifilm bodies). So for now I will just be using it for in-camera
>> B&W.
>>
>> These guys also do IR conversions along with their monochrome conversions,
>> but the Fujifilm in-camera B&W is pretty good.
>>
>> <https://www.maxmax.com>
>>
>> <https://petapixel.com/2017/02/17/fujifilm-monochrome-cameras-4800-ch...
> 
> ....and:
> 
> <https://fstoppers.com/gear/maxmax-launches-monochrome-fujifilm-x-pro...
> x100s-166132>
> 

Life Pixel has a good reputation. For my last conversion, I simply 
pulled out the IR filter. But, that was on a P&S, that I otherwise would 
just sit in a box. This time around, I am looking for faux color IR.

But why are you converting for BW only?

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On Dec 1, 2017, PeterN wrote
(in article<ovrvga010gb@news4.newsguy.com>):

> On 12/1/2017 10:49 AM, Savageduck wrote:
> > On Dec 1, 2017, Savageduck wrote
> > (in article<0001HW.1FD1AEE600A5832D70000CDF72CF@news.giganews.com>):
> >
> > > On Dec 1, 2017, PeterN wrote
> > > (in article<ovrr2a03n3@news6.newsguy.com>):
> > >
> > > > On 11/30/2017 2:13 AM, Savageduck wrote:
> > > >
> > > > <snip>
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > For now I will live with my X-T2, and consider an X-E3 to replace my X-E2
> > > > > as
> > > > > a second body. As for the X-E2 I am considering making that a dedicated
> > > > > B&W
> > > > > shooter.
> > > >
> > > > Do you mean a conversion, or that you would only use it for B&W. Maybe
> > > > my mind is channeled, because I am going to have my D300 converted to
> > > > infrared, and am thinking of a UV conversion.
> > >
> > > A conversion has been a consideration. However, the only company currently
> > > doing B&W conversions is only doing them to Fujifilm X-Pro1 bodies (that is
> > > among the Fujifilm bodies). So for now I will just be using it for
> > > in-camera
> > > B&W.
> > >
> > > These guys also do IR conversions along with their monochrome conversions,
> > > but the Fujifilm in-camera B&W is pretty good.
> > >
> > > <https://www.maxmax.com>
> > >
> > > <https://petapixel.com/2017/02/17/fujifilm-monochrome-cameras-4800-ch...
> > > leicas/>
> >
> > ....and:
> >
> > <https://fstoppers.com/gear/maxmax-launches-monochrome-fujifilm-x-pro...
> > x100s-166132>
>
> Life Pixel has a good reputation. For my last conversion, I simply
> pulled out the IR filter. But, that was on a P&S, that I otherwise would
> just sit in a box. This time around, I am looking for faux color IR.
>
> But why are you converting for BW only?

For now I am not converting a camera to B&W only. I am just choosing to use 
what is my extra body, the X-E2, as a dedicated B&W shooter using the 
Fujifilm in-camera emulations. I will still have the option to use it for 
color.

The B&W converted cameras, like the Leica monochrome, have the sensor 
modified by removal of the ICF/AA filter stack, standard sensor cover glass, 
microlenses, and CFA (Color Filter Array). A special sensor cover glass is 
added. This gives you a camera which is not dependant on color content, and 
B&W results which are sharper with finer micro-contrast. Thus the B&W results 
from a converted camera are going to be much better than B&W conversions from 
color RAW.

Having said all of that, I have other things to spend my disposable income on 
right now.

-- 

Regards,
Savageduck 

	
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On 12/1/2017 12:00 PM, Savageduck wrote:
> On Dec 1, 2017, PeterN wrote
> (in article<ovrvga010gb@news4.newsguy.com>):
> 
>> On 12/1/2017 10:49 AM, Savageduck wrote:
>>> On Dec 1, 2017, Savageduck wrote
>>> (in article<0001HW.1FD1AEE600A5832D70000CDF72CF@news.giganews.com>):
>>>
>>>> On Dec 1, 2017, PeterN wrote
>>>> (in article<ovrr2a03n3@news6.newsguy.com>):
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/30/2017 2:13 AM, Savageduck wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For now I will live with my X-T2, and consider an X-E3 to replace my X-E2
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> a second body. As for the X-E2 I am considering making that a dedicated
>>>>>> B&W
>>>>>> shooter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you mean a conversion, or that you would only use it for B&W. Maybe
>>>>> my mind is channeled, because I am going to have my D300 converted to
>>>>> infrared, and am thinking of a UV conversion.
>>>>
>>>> A conversion has been a consideration. However, the only company currently
>>>> doing B&W conversions is only doing them to Fujifilm X-Pro1 bodies (that is
>>>> among the Fujifilm bodies). So for now I will just be using it for
>>>> in-camera
>>>> B&W.
>>>>
>>>> These guys also do IR conversions along with their monochrome conversions,
>>>> but the Fujifilm in-camera B&W is pretty good.
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.maxmax.com>
>>>>
>>>> <https://petapixel.com/2017/02/17/fujifilm-monochrome-cameras-4800-ch...
>>>> leicas/>
>>>
>>> ....and:
>>>
>>> <https://fstoppers.com/gear/maxmax-launches-monochrome-fujifilm-x-pro...
>>> x100s-166132>
>>
>> Life Pixel has a good reputation. For my last conversion, I simply
>> pulled out the IR filter. But, that was on a P&S, that I otherwise would
>> just sit in a box. This time around, I am looking for faux color IR.
>>
>> But why are you converting for BW only?
> 
> For now I am not converting a camera to B&W only. I am just choosing to use
> what is my extra body, the X-E2, as a dedicated B&W shooter using the
> Fujifilm in-camera emulations. I will still have the option to use it for
> color.
> 
> The B&W converted cameras, like the Leica monochrome, have the sensor
> modified by removal of the ICF/AA filter stack, standard sensor cover glass,
> microlenses, and CFA (Color Filter Array). A special sensor cover glass is
> added. This gives you a camera which is not dependant on color content, and
> B&W results which are sharper with finer micro-contrast. Thus the B&W results
> from a converted camera are going to be much better than B&W conversions from
> color RAW.
> 
> Having said all of that, I have other things to spend my disposable income on
> right now.
> 

Understood. IMHO there is a beauty in BW, that cannot be achieved in 
color. It is also harder to make a top notch BW, than color.
With monochrome, the all elements of composition, tonal gradations, and 
of course, subject matter must be present. OTOH, color will make up for 
lapses in the other areas.

-- 
PeterN