> Prev
From: Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>
Subject: OT: Q&A on the Nunes Memo
Full headers:
Path: news.netfront.net!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!news2.arglkargh.de!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.datemas.de!news.datemas.de!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: OT: Q&A on the Nunes Memo
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 16:10:30 -0500
Organization: Datemas.de http://www.news.datemas.de
Message-ID: <p558g6$kru$3@news.datemas.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 21:10:30 +0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: news.datemas.de;
logging-data="21374"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@datemas.de"; x-trace=BklFJi34UIKw58fUp1nscGCnrncss0XttfCe38tY8WGjnRlJsMEba7WBgZd43XVRD0hfXMqzG0h8MSwg3gtiA5Rk/YHjIY9V7H9KNJ9fJZSYtvBNQX5RCNyT3WyCAft47htjoUOjgjIUciOdRv2Q8YJZRUKxyz88
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:52.0)
Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0
Content-Language: en-US
X-Mozilla-News-Host: news://news.datemas.de:119
Print Article
Forward Article
'1. What’s your big takeaway after reading the memo?

Julian Sanchez: There are some some legitimately criticizable missteps 
here: The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) should have 
been informed that Steele’s research was underwritten by the Democratic 
National Committee; a news article was erroneously cited as an 
independent source of information, which it later became apparent was 
also based on Steele’s claims. But that’s not in itself anywhere near a 
“worse than Watergate” scandal unless we assume a lot of additional 
facts that aren’t in evidence. Instead, the memo seems designed to 
insinuate the facts that would elevate this from a catalogue of modest 
misjudgments to a narrative of serious abuse. It implies that the 
application relied critically on unverified facts, but doesn’t actually 
say it in so many words. It reads, to be blunt, like a document intended 
to create the appearance of a scandal in the eyes of someone who isn’t 
parsing it closely.

Barbara McQuade: Although it is extremely misleading, the memo is not 
terribly significant to the Mueller investigation. It relates to a FISA 
warrant that was obtained in October 2016, after the investigation had 
already begun in July, and relates only to one subject, Carter Page. To 
suggest that this somehow taints the entire investigation is just wrong.

John Sipher: My first impression was that it was underwhelming. For all 
the hoopla and high-level attention, it was a pretty lame effort by 
Nunes and those trying to discredit the investigation. Like so many of 
the attacks and smear efforts against Christopher Steele and his 
dossier, the Nunes memo carefully avoids anything related to the actual 
content of the report.  Unlike a professional investigator, he purposely 
avoids anything that might undercut his pre-cooked conclusion, and 
focuses exclusively on the aspects that best supports his case. 
However, even his best argument is not very strong. Just like when the 
FBI gets reporting of a possible terrorist attack, their responsibility 
is to check it out. In this case, it would have been professionally 
irresponsible if the FBI did not follow up on this damning and explosive 
counterintelligence information, even if they were not 100 percent 
certain of the source’s reasons for passing on the lead.

Michael German: If this is the best argument the White House and House 
Republicans have to discredit the Special Counsel investigation they are 
in serious trouble. It isn’t very clear what their argument is. If it is 
just that Steele was biased against Trump, I’m not sure what that has to 
do with Page, because Page was no longer with the campaign and was not 
on the White House staff. But the memo ignores other important 
realities. Most informants providing information to the FBI do it 
because they don’t like the people they are informing on, or at least 
don’t like what they are doing. Also, informants can be wrong on certain 
details without making everything they say false. ...'

<https://www.justsecurity.org/51778/qa-nunes-memo/>

But you wing nuts understand it better than those folks, right?


'Barbara McQuade (@BarbMcQuade) is a Professor from Practice at the 
University of Michigan Law School.  From 2010 to 2017, she served as the 
United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan and co-chair 
of the Terrorism and National Security Subcommittee of the Attorney 
General’s Advisory Committee in the Obama administration. From 1998 to 
2010, McQuade served as an assistant U.S. attorney in Detroit, where she 
prosecuted national security cases.'

<https://www.justsecurity.org/author/mcquadebarbara>

'At the time of [John Sipher's] retirement, he was a member of the CIA’s 
Senior Intelligence Service, the leadership team that guides CIA 
activities globally. John served multiple overseas tours as Chief of 
Station and Deputy Chief of Station in Europe, Asia, and in high-threat 
environments. He has significant experience working with foreign and 
domestic partners to solve national security challenges. John also 
served as a lead instructor in the CIA’s clandestine training school, 
and was a regular lecturer at the CIA’s leadership development program. 
He is the recipient of the Distinguished Career Intelligence Medal.'

<https://www.justsecurity.org/author/sipherjohn>

'A sixteen-year veteran of federal law enforcement, Mr. German served as 
a special agent with the Federal Bureau of Investigation, where he 
specialized in domestic terrorism and covert operations.'

<https://www.justsecurity.org/author/germanmichael/> 

	
Next <
From: DumbedDownUSA <ddtrumpets@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: OT: Q&A on the Nunes Memo
Full headers:
Path: news.netfront.net!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: "DumbedDownUSA" <ddtrumpets@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: OT: Q&A on the Nunes Memo
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 21:26:21 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: Not the fucktard troll
Lines: 19
Message-ID: <xn0l5s6yzcqc13x000@news.eternal-september.org>
References: <p558g6$kru$3@news.datemas.de>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 21:26:21 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="3986ed775627feb310c4607f9eebb8aa";
logging-data="23079"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org";posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/iS839L+V+v+FTI5JvWC4m"
User-Agent: XanaNews/1.19.1.373 (x64; Portable ISpell)
Cancel-Lock: sha1:F6a5d+PvBrKtHADq1kAjcqf2YLk=
X-Ref: news.eternal-september.org ~XNS:00000482
Print Article
Forward Article
Alan Baker wrote:

[snip quote]
> 
> <https://www.justsecurity.org/51778/qa-nunes-memo/>
> 
> But you wing nuts understand it better than those folks, right?
> 

You are quoting intellectuals using complete sentences and words of
more than one syllable. The Trumpets aren't used to that. You can't
expect them to understand.



-- 
Trump: If there is a shutdown I think it would be a tremendously
negative mark on the president of the United States. He’s the one that
has to get people together.