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From: Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>
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Subject: OT: You gave Trump all the credit for the gains...
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....despite the fact that he hadn't actually done anything to change the 
climate established by the previous adminstration...

....so will he get the blame for the losses by you wing nuts?

<https://www.google.ca/search?tbm=fin&q=INDEXDJX:+.DJI&stick=... 

	
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On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 7:42:15 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:
> ...despite the fact that he hadn't actually done anything to change the 
> climate established by the previous adminstration...
> 
> ...so will he get the blame for the losses by you wing nuts?
> 
>
<https://www.google.ca/search?tbm=fin&q=INDEXDJX:+.DJI&stick=...

And sometimes, it pays to get out of the market ... right "Moderate"?   

<http://huntzinger.com/photo/2018/P4_puddle.jpg>


-hh 

	
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-hh<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> Wrote in message:
> On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 7:42:15 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:
>> ...despite the fact that he hadn't actually done anything to change the 
>> climate established by the previous adminstration...
>> 
>> ...so will he get the blame for the losses by you wing nuts?
>> 
>>
<https://www.google.ca/search?tbm=fin&q=INDEXDJX:+.DJI&stick=...
> 
> And sometimes, it pays to get out of the market ... right "Moderate"?   
> 
> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2018/P4_puddle.jpg>
> 
> 
> -hh
> 

Always a mistake.
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From: Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>
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Subject: Re: OT: You gave Trump all the credit for the gains...
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On 2018-02-08 6:05 PM, Moderate wrote:
> -hh<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> Wrote in message:
>> On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 7:42:15 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> ...despite the fact that he hadn't actually done anything to change the
>>> climate established by the previous adminstration...
>>>
>>> ...so will he get the blame for the losses by you wing nuts?
>>>
>>>
<https://www.google.ca/search?tbm=fin&q=INDEXDJX:+.DJI&stick=...
>>
>> And sometimes, it pays to get out of the market ... right "Moderate"?
>>
>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2018/P4_puddle.jpg>
>>
>>
>> -hh
>>
> 
> Always a mistake.
> 

Not that you'll ever tell us what you mean by that... 

	
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On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 18:17:15 -0800, Alan Baker<alangbaker@telus.net>
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>On 2018-02-08 6:05 PM, Moderate wrote:
>> -hh<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> Wrote in message:
>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 7:42:15 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> ...despite the fact that he hadn't actually done anything to change the
>>>> climate established by the previous adminstration...
>>>>
>>>> ...so will he get the blame for the losses by you wing nuts?
>>>>
>>>>
<https://www.google.ca/search?tbm=fin&q=INDEXDJX:+.DJI&stick=...
>>>
>>> And sometimes, it pays to get out of the market ... right "Moderate"?
>>>
>>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2018/P4_puddle.jpg>
>>>
>>>
>>> -hh
>>>
>> 
>> Always a mistake.
>> 
>
>Not that you'll ever tell us what you mean by that...

It doesn't matter what he meant his 40G is gone.  He's not rich
anymore. 

	
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Bobby writes:
> Alan Baker  wrote: 
>>On 2018-02-08 6:05 PM, Moderate wrote: 
>>> -hh Wrote in message: 
>>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 7:42:15 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote: 
>>>>> ...despite the fact that he hadn't actually done anything to change the 
>>>>> climate established by the previous adminstration... 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ...so will he get the blame for the losses by you wing nuts? 
>>>>> 
>>>>>
<https://www.google.ca/search?tbm=fin&q=INDEXDJX:+.DJI&stick=... 
>>>> 
>>>> And sometimes, it pays to get out of the market ... right "Moderate"? 
>>>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2018/P4_puddle.jpg> 
>>> 
>>> Always a mistake. 
>> 
>>Not that you'll ever tell us what you mean by that... 

Moderate is being ignorant of how & why one should periodically rebalance,
as well as to shift ratios based on risk tolerance.  With the Dow being so far up 
in 2017, pretty much everyone was due to shift ("cash out") a portion of those 
gains out, and into the other segments to have a balanced portfolio.  

> It doesn't matter what he meant his 40G is gone.  He's not rich anymore.

Gosh, golly:  there's been a sudden cessation of his bravado...


-hh 

	
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-hh<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> Wrote in message:
> Bobby writes:
>> Alan Baker  wrote: 
>>>On 2018-02-08 6:05 PM, Moderate wrote: 
>>>> -hh Wrote in message: 
>>>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 7:42:15 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote: 
>>>>>> ...despite the fact that he hadn't actually done anything to change the 
>>>>>> climate established by the previous adminstration... 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ...so will he get the blame for the losses by you wing nuts? 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>
<https://www.google.ca/search?tbm=fin&q=INDEXDJX:+.DJI&stick=... 
>>>>> 
>>>>> And sometimes, it pays to get out of the market ... right "Moderate"? 
>>>>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2018/P4_puddle.jpg> 
>>>> 
>>>> Always a mistake. 
>>> 
>>>Not that you'll ever tell us what you mean by that... 
> 
> Moderate is being ignorant of how & why one should periodically rebalance,
> as well as to shift ratios based on risk tolerance.  With the Dow being so far up 
> in 2017, pretty much everyone was due to shift ("cash out") a portion of those 
> gains out, and into the other segments to have a balanced portfolio.  
> 
>> It doesn't matter what he meant his 40G is gone.  He's not rich anymore.
> 
> Gosh, golly:  there's been a sudden cessation of his bravado...
> 
> 
> -hh
> 

Such a liar.  Rebalancing is not 'cashing out' as you claimed you
 did.  

Rebalancing is what experienced investors like myself have done
 for years.  You are such a fraud you don't understand the basic
 terminology of investing.

I previously posted how my accounts are ballanced.  Your claims of
 cashing out are completely amateur, nickel and dime
 nonsense.

I have one broker, he knows what my strategy is.  You claim to
 have three brokers.  That is zero strategy.
-- 

	
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Moderate wrote:
> -hh<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>  Wrote in message:
>> Bobby writes:
>>> Alan Baker  wrote:
>>>> On 2018-02-08 6:05 PM, Moderate wrote:
>>>>> -hh Wrote in message:
>>>>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 7:42:15 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>> ...despite the fact that he hadn't actually done anything to change the
>>>>>>> climate established by the previous adminstration...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...so will he get the blame for the losses by you wing nuts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
<https://www.google.ca/search?tbm=fin&q=INDEXDJX:+.DJI&stick=...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And sometimes, it pays to get out of the market ... right "Moderate"?
>>>>>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2018/P4_puddle.jpg>
>>>>>
>>>>> Always a mistake.
>>>>
>>>> Not that you'll ever tell us what you mean by that...
>>
>> Moderate is being ignorant of how&  why one should periodically rebalance,
>> as well as to shift ratios based on risk tolerance.  With the Dow being so far up
>> in 2017, pretty much everyone was due to shift ("cash out") a portion of those
>> gains out, and into the other segments to have a balanced portfolio.
>>
>>> It doesn't matter what he meant his 40G is gone.  He's not rich anymore.
>>
>> Gosh, golly:  there's been a sudden cessation of his bravado...
>>
>>
>> -hh
>>
>
> Such a liar.  Rebalancing is not 'cashing out' as you claimed you
>   did.
>
> Rebalancing is what experienced investors like myself have done
>   for years.  You are such a fraud you don't understand the basic
>   terminology of investing.
>
> I previously posted how my accounts are ballanced.  Your claims of
>   cashing out are completely amateur, nickel and dime
>   nonsense.
>
> I have one broker, he knows what my strategy is.  You claim to
>   have three brokers.  That is zero strategy.

Is HH such a simpleton he does not understand a what a "paper loss" is? 

	
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MNMikeW<mnmiikkew@aol.com> Wrote in message:
> Moderate wrote:
>> -hh<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>  Wrote in message:
>>> Bobby writes:
>>>> Alan Baker  wrote:
>>>>> On 2018-02-08 6:05 PM, Moderate wrote:
>>>>>> -hh Wrote in message:
>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 7:42:15 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> ...despite the fact that he hadn't actually done anything to change the
>>>>>>>> climate established by the previous adminstration...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...so will he get the blame for the losses by you wing nuts?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
<https://www.google.ca/search?tbm=fin&q=INDEXDJX:+.DJI&stick=...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And sometimes, it pays to get out of the market ... right "Moderate"?
>>>>>>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2018/P4_puddle.jpg>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Always a mistake.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not that you'll ever tell us what you mean by that...
>>>
>>> Moderate is being ignorant of how&  why one should periodically rebalance,
>>> as well as to shift ratios based on risk tolerance.  With the Dow being so far up
>>> in 2017, pretty much everyone was due to shift ("cash out") a portion of those
>>> gains out, and into the other segments to have a balanced portfolio.
>>>
>>>> It doesn't matter what he meant his 40G is gone.  He's not rich anymore.
>>>
>>> Gosh, golly:  there's been a sudden cessation of his bravado...
>>>
>>>
>>> -hh
>>>
>>
>> Such a liar.  Rebalancing is not 'cashing out' as you claimed you
>>   did.
>>
>> Rebalancing is what experienced investors like myself have done
>>   for years.  You are such a fraud you don't understand the basic
>>   terminology of investing.
>>
>> I previously posted how my accounts are ballanced.  Your claims of
>>   cashing out are completely amateur, nickel and dime
>>   nonsense.
>>
>> I have one broker, he knows what my strategy is.  You claim to
>>   have three brokers.  That is zero strategy.
> 
> Is HH such a simpleton he does not understand a what a "paper loss" is?
> 

All he knows is what he Googles.
-- 

	
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On Fri, 09 Feb 2018 09:41:36 -0600, MNMikeW<mnmiikkew@aol.com> wrote:

>Moderate wrote:
>> -hh<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>  Wrote in message:
>>> Bobby writes:
<
>>>> It doesn't matter what he meant his 40G is gone.  He's not rich anymore.
>>>
>>> Gosh, golly:  there's been a sudden cessation of his bravado...
>>>
>>>
>>> -hh
>>>
>>
>> Such a liar.  Rebalancing is not 'cashing out' as you claimed you
>>   did.

>Is HH such a simpleton he does not understand a what a "paper loss" is?

No, but Mod is because he didn't understand that his $40G wasn't a
lasting guarantee...and didn't make him rich.  Wonder if he bought
that Mercedes? 

	
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On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 8:28:16 AM UTC-8, B...@onramp.net wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Feb 2018 09:41:36 -0600, MNMikeW<mnmiikkew@aol.com> wrote:
> 
> >Moderate wrote:
> >> -hh<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>  Wrote in message:
> >>> Bobby writes:
> <
> >>>> It doesn't matter what he meant his 40G is gone.  He's not rich anymore.
> >>>
> >>> Gosh, golly:  there's been a sudden cessation of his bravado...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -hh
> >>>
> >>
> >> Such a liar.  Rebalancing is not 'cashing out' as you claimed you
> >>   did.
> 
> >Is HH such a simpleton he does not understand a what a "paper loss" is?
> 
> No, but Mod is because he didn't understand that his $40G wasn't a
> lasting guarantee...and didn't make him rich.  Wonder if he bought
> that Mercedes?

Why are you happy about him or anybody losing money? 

	
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Dene wrote:

> Why are you happy about him or anybody losing money?

Don't be so fucking disingenuous. Your circle-jerk is out of sync;
Mikey knows they are only paper losses.

You also know that Moderate claimed he was a "rich bitch" off the stock
market gains and that Trump was the cause while others pointed out it
was paper gains and there would be a correction.

Don't try to blame the people who warned the crowing Fucktard for his
paper losses; blame Trump just like Moderate.

He didn't lose money he just lost any sense of credibility that might
have remained.

-- 
Trump: If there is a shutdown I think it would be a tremendously
negative mark on the president of the United States. He’s the one that
has to get people together. 

	
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On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 10:41:38 AM UTC-5, MNMikeW wrote:
> Moderate wrote:
> > -hh Wrote in message:
> >> Bobby writes:
> >>> Alan Baker  wrote:
> >>>> On 2018-02-08 6:05 PM, Moderate wrote:
> >>>>> -hh Wrote in message:
> >>>>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 7:42:15 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:
> >>>>>>> ...despite the fact that he hadn't actually done anything to change
> >>>>>>> the climate established by the previous adminstration...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ...so will he get the blame for the losses by you wing nuts?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
<https://www.google.ca/search?tbm=fin&q=INDEXDJX:+.DJI&stick=...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And sometimes, it pays to get out of the market ... right "Moderate"?
> >>>>>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2018/P4_puddle.jpg>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Always a mistake.
> >>>>
> >>>> Not that you'll ever tell us what you mean by that...
> >>
> >> Moderate is being ignorant of how & why one should periodically
> >> rebalance, as well as to shift ratios based on risk tolerance.
> >> With the Dow being so far up in 2017, pretty much everyone was
> >> due to shift ("cash out") a portion of those gains out, and 
> >> into the other segments to have a balanced portfolio.
> >>
> >>> It doesn't matter what he meant his 40G is gone.  He's not rich anymore.
> >>
> >> Gosh, golly:  there's been a sudden cessation of his bravado...
> >
> > Such a liar.  Rebalancing is not 'cashing out' as you claimed you
> > did.

Because the more times it gets repeated we can't ever use more
casual terminology?  

(2 Feb):  
"Glad we hedged and parked some equity last quarter."

<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.sport.golf/5AcErMo2fDo/i4tFk6IMB...

Now did I say just *where* that was parked?  Why yes I did:

(27 January):
"...went more conservative and parked some last quarter, including 
an International Bond Fund that also serves as a US Currency hedge."

<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.sport.golf/5AcErMo2fDo/v3JoKjYzB...
  


> > Rebalancing is what experienced investors like myself have done
> > for years.  You are such a fraud you don't understand the basic
> >   terminology of investing.
> >
> > I previously posted how my accounts are ballanced.  Your claims of
> >   cashing out are completely amateur, nickel and dime
> >   nonsense.
> >
> > I have one broker, he knows what my strategy is.  You claim to
> >   have three brokers.  That is zero strategy.
> 
> Is HH such a simpleton he does not understand a what a "paper loss" is?

Is Mike such a simpleton that he didn't read this in a thread from 11 days ago?

(29 January):
"Quick update:  close was lower, so "Thank you Trump" lost all of 
his Friday's paper gains, plus another $1000; don't think that 
they'll be updating that FB status anytime soon."

<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.sport.golf/5AcErMo2fDo/STQpfMHcA...

Or miss reading it again, earlier this past week?

(5 Feb):
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.sport.golf/5AcErMo2fDo/cgHSxB_NB...


-hh 

	
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On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 11:31:27 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 10:41:38 AM UTC-5, MNMikeW wrote:
> > Moderate wrote:
> > > -hh Wrote in message:
> > >> Bobby writes:
> > >>> Alan Baker  wrote:
> > >>>> On 2018-02-08 6:05 PM, Moderate wrote:
> > >>>>> -hh Wrote in message:
> > >>>>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 7:42:15 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:
> > >>>>>>> ...despite the fact that he hadn't actually done anything to change
> > >>>>>>> the climate established by the previous adminstration...
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> ...so will he get the blame for the losses by you wing nuts?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
<https://www.google.ca/search?tbm=fin&q=INDEXDJX:+.DJI&stick=...
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> And sometimes, it pays to get out of the market ... right "Moderate"?
> > >>>>>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2018/P4_puddle.jpg>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Always a mistake.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Not that you'll ever tell us what you mean by that...
> > >>
> > >> Moderate is being ignorant of how & why one should periodically
> > >> rebalance, as well as to shift ratios based on risk tolerance.
> > >> With the Dow being so far up in 2017, pretty much everyone was
> > >> due to shift ("cash out") a portion of those gains out, and 
> > >> into the other segments to have a balanced portfolio.
> > >>
> > >>> It doesn't matter what he meant his 40G is gone.  He's not rich anymore.
> > >>
> > >> Gosh, golly:  there's been a sudden cessation of his bravado...
> > >
> > > Such a liar.  Rebalancing is not 'cashing out' as you claimed you
> > > did.
> 
> Because the more times it gets repeated we can't ever use more
> casual terminology?  
> 
> (2 Feb):  
> "Glad we hedged and parked some equity last quarter."
> 
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.sport.golf/5AcErMo2fDo/i4tFk6IMB...
> 
> Now did I say just *where* that was parked?  Why yes I did:
> 
> (27 January):
> "...went more conservative and parked some last quarter, including 
> an International Bond Fund that also serves as a US Currency hedge."
> 
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.sport.golf/5AcErMo2fDo/v3JoKjYzB...
>   
> 
> 
> > > Rebalancing is what experienced investors like myself have done
> > > for years.  You are such a fraud you don't understand the basic
> > >   terminology of investing.
> > >
> > > I previously posted how my accounts are ballanced.  Your claims of
> > >   cashing out are completely amateur, nickel and dime
> > >   nonsense.
> > >
> > > I have one broker, he knows what my strategy is.  You claim to
> > >   have three brokers.  That is zero strategy.
> > 
> > Is HH such a simpleton he does not understand a what a "paper loss" is?
> 
> Is Mike such a simpleton that he didn't read this in a thread from 11 days ago?


Most don't read your babbling Bullshit.  Why, because it's only Bullshit spouted by a small, little,
insecure Midget.

You should seek help.  It won't make you taller, but you might accept the fact that you are a tiny,
little, delicate man. 

	
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> On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 11:31:27 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> > On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 10:41:38 AM UTC-5, MNMikeW wrote:
> > > Moderate wrote:
> > > > -hh Wrote in message:
> > > >> Bobby writes:
> > > >>> Alan Baker  wrote:
> > > >>>> On 2018-02-08 6:05 PM, Moderate wrote:
> > > >>>>> -hh Wrote in message:
> > > >>>>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 7:42:15 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> ...despite the fact that he hadn't actually done anything to change
> > > >>>>>>> the climate established by the previous adminstration...
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> ...so will he get the blame for the losses by you wing nuts?
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
<https://www.google.ca/search?tbm=fin&q=INDEXDJX:+.DJI&stick=...
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> And sometimes, it pays to get out of the market ... right "Moderate"?
> > > >>>>>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2018/P4_puddle.jpg>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Always a mistake.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Not that you'll ever tell us what you mean by that...
> > > >>
> > > >> Moderate is being ignorant of how & why one should periodically
> > > >> rebalance, as well as to shift ratios based on risk tolerance.
> > > >> With the Dow being so far up in 2017, pretty much everyone was
> > > >> due to shift ("cash out") a portion of those gains out, and 
> > > >> into the other segments to have a balanced portfolio.
> > > >>
> > > >>> It doesn't matter what he meant his 40G is gone.  He's not rich anymore.
> > > >>
> > > >> Gosh, golly:  there's been a sudden cessation of his bravado...
> > > >
> > > > Such a liar.  Rebalancing is not 'cashing out' as you claimed you
> > > > did.
> > 
> > Because the more times it gets repeated we can't ever use more
> > casual terminology?  
> > 
> > (2 Feb):  
> > "Glad we hedged and parked some equity last quarter."
> > 
> > <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.sport.golf/5AcErMo2fDo/i4tFk6IMB...
> > 
> > Now did I say just *where* that was parked?  Why yes I did:
> > 
> > (27 January):
> > "...went more conservative and parked some last quarter, including 
> > an International Bond Fund that also serves as a US Currency hedge."
> > 
> > <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.sport.golf/5AcErMo2fDo/v3JoKjYzB...
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > > > Rebalancing is what experienced investors like myself have done
> > > > for years.  You are such a fraud you don't understand the basic
> > > >   terminology of investing.
> > > >
> > > > I previously posted how my accounts are ballanced.  Your claims of
> > > >   cashing out are completely amateur, nickel and dime
> > > >   nonsense.
> > > >
> > > > I have one broker, he knows what my strategy is.  You claim to
> > > >   have three brokers.  That is zero strategy.
> > > 
> > > Is HH such a simpleton he does not understand a what a "paper loss" is?
> > 
> > Is Mike such a simpleton that he didn't read this in a thread from 11 days ago?
> 
> 
> Most don't read your babbling Bullshit...

Oh, look:  another lame Ad Hominem dig attempt.  Ohhh!  Woe is me!  /S

 
> You should seek help. 

Yes, hiring some more employees this spring is indeed on my "To Do" 
list.  But of course, that's not what you meant.  Sorry.  /S


-hh 

	
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On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 2:20:39 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 1:54:30 PM UTC-5, michae...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 11:31:27 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> > > On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 10:41:38 AM UTC-5, MNMikeW wrote:
> > > > Moderate wrote:
> > > > > -hh Wrote in message:
> > > > >> Bobby writes:
> > > > >>> Alan Baker  wrote:
> > > > >>>> On 2018-02-08 6:05 PM, Moderate wrote:
> > > > >>>>> -hh Wrote in message:
> > > > >>>>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 7:42:15 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>> ...despite the fact that he hadn't actually done anything to change
> > > > >>>>>>> the climate established by the previous adminstration...
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> ...so will he get the blame for the losses by you wing nuts?
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>>
<https://www.google.ca/search?tbm=fin&q=INDEXDJX:+.DJI&stick=...
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> And sometimes, it pays to get out of the market ... right "Moderate"?
> > > > >>>>>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2018/P4_puddle.jpg>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Always a mistake.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Not that you'll ever tell us what you mean by that...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Moderate is being ignorant of how & why one should periodically
> > > > >> rebalance, as well as to shift ratios based on risk tolerance.
> > > > >> With the Dow being so far up in 2017, pretty much everyone was
> > > > >> due to shift ("cash out") a portion of those gains out, and 
> > > > >> into the other segments to have a balanced portfolio.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> It doesn't matter what he meant his 40G is gone.  He's not rich anymore.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Gosh, golly:  there's been a sudden cessation of his bravado...
> > > > >
> > > > > Such a liar.  Rebalancing is not 'cashing out' as you claimed you
> > > > > did.
> > > 
> > > Because the more times it gets repeated we can't ever use more
> > > casual terminology?  
> > > 
> > > (2 Feb):  
> > > "Glad we hedged and parked some equity last quarter."
> > > 
> > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.sport.golf/5AcErMo2fDo/i4tFk6IMB...
> > > 
> > > Now did I say just *where* that was parked?  Why yes I did:
> > > 
> > > (27 January):
> > > "...went more conservative and parked some last quarter, including 
> > > an International Bond Fund that also serves as a US Currency hedge."
> > > 
> > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.sport.golf/5AcErMo2fDo/v3JoKjYzB...
> > >   
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > > Rebalancing is what experienced investors like myself have done
> > > > > for years.  You are such a fraud you don't understand the basic
> > > > >   terminology of investing.
> > > > >
> > > > > I previously posted how my accounts are ballanced.  Your claims of
> > > > >   cashing out are completely amateur, nickel and dime
> > > > >   nonsense.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have one broker, he knows what my strategy is.  You claim to
> > > > >   have three brokers.  That is zero strategy.
> > > > 
> > > > Is HH such a simpleton he does not understand a what a "paper loss" is?
> > > 
> > > Is Mike such a simpleton that he didn't read this in a thread from 11 days ago?
> > 
> > 
> > Most don't read your babbling Bullshit...
> 
> Oh, look:  another lame Ad Hominem dig attempt.  Ohhh!  Woe is me!  /S
> 
>  
> > You should seek help. 
> 
> Yes, hiring some more employees this spring is indeed on my "To Do" 
> list.  But of course, that's not what you meant.  Sorry.  /S

GOLLY!!!  You're a "Big" "Magnate" now!!!!!

Your going to get the kid down the street to mow your postage stamp lawn?

BWAHAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. 

	
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> On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 2:20:39 PM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>> On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 1:54:30 PM UTC-5, michae...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 11:31:27 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
>>>> On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 10:41:38 AM UTC-5, MNMikeW wrote:
>>>>> Moderate wrote:
>>>>>> -hh Wrote in message:
>>>>>>> Bobby writes:
>>>>>>>> Alan Baker  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2018-02-08 6:05 PM, Moderate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> -hh Wrote in message:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 7:42:15 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...despite the fact that he hadn't actually done anything to change
>>>>>>>>>>>> the climate established by the previous adminstration...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...so will he get the blame for the losses by you wing nuts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
<https://www.google.ca/search?tbm=fin&q=INDEXDJX:+.DJI&stick=...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And sometimes, it pays to get out of the market ... right "Moderate"?
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2018/P4_puddle.jpg>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Always a mistake.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not that you'll ever tell us what you mean by that...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Moderate is being ignorant of how & why one should periodically
>>>>>>> rebalance, as well as to shift ratios based on risk tolerance.
>>>>>>> With the Dow being so far up in 2017, pretty much everyone was
>>>>>>> due to shift ("cash out") a portion of those gains out, and
>>>>>>> into the other segments to have a balanced portfolio.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It doesn't matter what he meant his 40G is gone.  He's not rich anymore.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gosh, golly:  there's been a sudden cessation of his bravado...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Such a liar.  Rebalancing is not 'cashing out' as you claimed you
>>>>>> did.
>>>>
>>>> Because the more times it gets repeated we can't ever use more
>>>> casual terminology?
>>>>
>>>> (2 Feb):
>>>> "Glad we hedged and parked some equity last quarter."
>>>>
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.sport.golf/5AcErMo2fDo/i4tFk6IMB...
>>>>
>>>> Now did I say just *where* that was parked?  Why yes I did:
>>>>
>>>> (27 January):
>>>> "...went more conservative and parked some last quarter, including
>>>> an International Bond Fund that also serves as a US Currency hedge."
>>>>
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.sport.golf/5AcErMo2fDo/v3JoKjYzB...
>>>>    
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Rebalancing is what experienced investors like myself have done
>>>>>> for years.  You are such a fraud you don't understand the basic
>>>>>>    terminology of investing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I previously posted how my accounts are ballanced.  Your claims of
>>>>>>    cashing out are completely amateur, nickel and dime
>>>>>>    nonsense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have one broker, he knows what my strategy is.  You claim to
>>>>>>    have three brokers.  That is zero strategy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is HH such a simpleton he does not understand a what a "paper loss" is?
>>>>
>>>> Is Mike such a simpleton that he didn't read this in a thread from 11 days ago?
>>>
>>>
>>> Most don't read your babbling Bullshit...
>>
>> Oh, look:  another lame Ad Hominem dig attempt.  Ohhh!  Woe is me!  /S
>>
>>   
>>> You should seek help.
>>
>> Yes, hiring some more employees this spring is indeed on my "To Do"
>> list.  But of course, that's not what you meant.  Sorry.  /S
> 
> GOLLY!!!  You're a "Big" "Magnate" now!!!!!
> 
> Your going to get the kid down the street to mow your postage stamp lawn?
> 
> BWAHAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
> 

ROFLOLOLOLOL!!!!! 

	
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> 
> Is HH such a simpleton he does not understand a what a "paper loss"
> is?

Lol. So you are claiming you just happened not to see the entire thread
where Moderate declared "I am rich bitch!!" because the stock market
was up and HH and others had to explain how that wasn't so.

You always seem to grab the shitty end of the stick; you have a knack
for it.

-- 
Trump: If there is a shutdown I think it would be a tremendously
negative mark on the president of the United States. He 

	
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> Moderate wrote:
> > -hh<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>  Wrote in message:
> >> Bobby writes:
> >>> Alan Baker  wrote:
> >>>> On 2018-02-08 6:05 PM, Moderate wrote:
> >>>>> -hh Wrote in message:
> >>>>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 7:42:15 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote:
> >>>>>>> ...despite the fact that he hadn't actually done anything to change the
> >>>>>>> climate established by the previous adminstration...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ...so will he get the blame for the losses by you wing nuts?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
<https://www.google.ca/search?tbm=fin&q=INDEXDJX:+.DJI&stick=...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And sometimes, it pays to get out of the market ... right "Moderate"?
> >>>>>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2018/P4_puddle.jpg>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Always a mistake.
> >>>>
> >>>> Not that you'll ever tell us what you mean by that...
> >>
> >> Moderate is being ignorant of how&  why one should periodically rebalance,
> >> as well as to shift ratios based on risk tolerance.  With the Dow being so far up
> >> in 2017, pretty much everyone was due to shift ("cash out") a portion of those
> >> gains out, and into the other segments to have a balanced portfolio.
> >>
> >>> It doesn't matter what he meant his 40G is gone.  He's not rich anymore.
> >>
> >> Gosh, golly:  there's been a sudden cessation of his bravado...
> >>
> >>
> >> -hh
> >>
> >
> > Such a liar.  Rebalancing is not 'cashing out' as you claimed you
> >   did.
> >
> > Rebalancing is what experienced investors like myself have done
> >   for years.  You are such a fraud you don't understand the basic
> >   terminology of investing.
> >
> > I previously posted how my accounts are ballanced.  Your claims of
> >   cashing out are completely amateur, nickel and dime
> >   nonsense.
> >
> > I have one broker, he knows what my strategy is.  You claim to
> >   have three brokers.  That is zero strategy.
> 
> Is HH such a simpleton he does not understand a what a "paper loss" is?

Hugh definitely has a lot of time on his hands. 

	
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> On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 7:41:38 AM UTC-8, MNMikeW wrote:
>> Moderate wrote:
>>> -hh<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>  Wrote in message:
>>>> Bobby writes:
>>>>> Alan Baker  wrote:
>>>>>> On 2018-02-08 6:05 PM, Moderate wrote:
>>>>>>> -hh Wrote in message:
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 7:42:15 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> ...despite the fact that he hadn't actually done anything to
>>>>>>>>> change the climate established by the previous adminstration...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...so will he get the blame for the losses by you wing nuts?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
<https://www.google.ca/search?tbm=fin&q=INDEXDJX:+.DJI&stick=...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And sometimes, it pays to get out of the market ... right
>>>>>>>> "Moderate"? <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2018/P4_puddle.jpg>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Always a mistake.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not that you'll ever tell us what you mean by that...
>>>>
>>>> Moderate is being ignorant of how&  why one should periodically
>>>> rebalance, as well as to shift ratios based on risk tolerance.  With
>>>> the Dow being so far up in 2017, pretty much everyone was due to
>>>> shift ("cash out") a portion of those gains out, and into the other
>>>> segments to have a balanced portfolio.
>>>>
>>>>> It doesn't matter what he meant his 40G is gone.  He's not rich
>>>>> anymore.
>>>>
>>>> Gosh, golly:  there's been a sudden cessation of his bravado...
>>>
>>> Such a liar.  Rebalancing is not 'cashing out' as you claimed you did.
>>>
>>> Rebalancing is what experienced investors like myself have done for
>>> years.  You are such a fraud you don't understand the basic
>>> terminology of investing.
>>>
>>> I previously posted how my accounts are ballanced.  Your claims of
>>> cashing out are completely amateur, nickel and dime nonsense.
>>>
>>> I have one broker, he knows what my strategy is.  You claim to have
>>> three brokers.  That is zero strategy.
>>
>> Is HH such a simpleton he does not understand a what a "paper loss" is?
> 
> Hugh definitely has a lot of time on his hands.

Not necessarily. Myself, I type very quickly, and it takes very little
time to debunk the manure. It's all so much faster and easier when your
arguments are supported by facts. 

	
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On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 1:11:22 PM UTC-5, Carbon wrote:
> On 02/09/2018 12:58 PM, Dene wrote:
> > On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 7:41:38 AM UTC-8, MNMikeW wrote:
> >> Moderate wrote:
> >>> -hh Wrote in message:
> >>>> Bobby writes:
> >>>>> Alan Baker  wrote:
> >>>>>> On 2018-02-08 6:05 PM, Moderate wrote:
> >>>>>>> -hh Wrote in message:
> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 7:42:15 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> ...despite the fact that he hadn't actually done anything to
> >>>>>>>>> change the climate established by the previous adminstration...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> ...so will he get the blame for the losses by you wing nuts?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
<https://www.google.ca/search?tbm=fin&q=INDEXDJX:+.DJI&stick=...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> And sometimes, it pays to get out of the market ... right
> >>>>>>>> "Moderate"? <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2018/P4_puddle.jpg>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Always a mistake.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Not that you'll ever tell us what you mean by that...
> >>>>
> >>>> Moderate is being ignorant of how & why one should periodically
> >>>> rebalance, as well as to shift ratios based on risk tolerance.  With
> >>>> the Dow being so far up in 2017, pretty much everyone was due to
> >>>> shift ("cash out") a portion of those gains out, and into the other
> >>>> segments to have a balanced portfolio.
> >>>>
> >>>>> It doesn't matter what he meant his 40G is gone.  He's not rich
> >>>>> anymore.
> >>>>
> >>>> Gosh, golly:  there's been a sudden cessation of his bravado...
> >>>
> >>> Such a liar.  Rebalancing is not 'cashing out' as you claimed you did..
> >>>
> >>> Rebalancing is what experienced investors like myself have done for
> >>> years.  You are such a fraud you don't understand the basic
> >>> terminology of investing.

If Moderate really was adequately experienced, he would have neither
bragged about paper gains, nor considered only $40K to be 'rich'.

> >>> I previously posted how my accounts are ballanced.  Your claims of
> >>> cashing out are completely amateur, nickel and dime nonsense.
> >>>
> >>> I have one broker, he knows what my strategy is.  You claim to have
> >>> three brokers.  That is zero strategy.
> >>
> >> Is HH such a simpleton he does not understand a what a "paper loss" is?
> > 
> > Hugh definitely has a lot of time on his hands.
> 
> Not necessarily.  Myself, I type very quickly, and it takes very little
> time to debunk the manure. It's all so much faster and easier when your
> arguments are supported by facts.

Well said.  That ancient class to become a touch-typist has paid 
for itself many, many times over in its productivity gains.  And 
its quite easy to debunk nonsense written by buffoons*.

* - I'd say "Neanderthalic", but that'd be an insult to Neanderthals. 
  


-hh 

	
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On 02/09/2018 02:05 PM, -hh wrote:
> On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 1:11:22 PM UTC-5, Carbon wrote:
>> On 02/09/2018 12:58 PM, Dene wrote:
>>> On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 7:41:38 AM UTC-8, MNMikeW wrote:
>>>> Moderate wrote:
>>>>> -hh Wrote in message:
>>>>>> Bobby writes:
>>>>>>> Alan Baker  wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2018-02-08 6:05 PM, Moderate wrote:
>>>>>>>>> -hh Wrote in message:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 7:42:15 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> ...despite the fact that he hadn't actually done anything to
>>>>>>>>>>> change the climate established by the previous
>>>>>>>>>>> adminstration...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ...so will he get the blame for the losses by you wing nuts?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
<https://www.google.ca/search?tbm=fin&q=INDEXDJX:+.DJI&stick=...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And sometimes, it pays to get out of the market ... right
>>>>>>>>>> "Moderate"? <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2018/P4_puddle.jpg>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Always a mistake.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not that you'll ever tell us what you mean by that...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Moderate is being ignorant of how & why one should periodically
>>>>>> rebalance, as well as to shift ratios based on risk tolerance. With
>>>>>> the Dow being so far up in 2017, pretty much everyone was due to
>>>>>> shift ("cash out") a portion of those gains out, and into the other
>>>>>> segments to have a balanced portfolio.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It doesn't matter what he meant his 40G is gone.  He's not rich
>>>>>>> anymore.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gosh, golly:  there's been a sudden cessation of his bravado...
>>>>>
>>>>> Such a liar.  Rebalancing is not 'cashing out' as you claimed you
>>>>> did.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rebalancing is what experienced investors like myself have done for
>>>>> years.  You are such a fraud you don't understand the basic
>>>>> terminology of investing.
> 
> If Moderate really was adequately experienced, he would have neither
> bragged about paper gains, nor considered only $40K to be 'rich'.
> 
>>>>> I previously posted how my accounts are ballanced.  Your claims of
>>>>> cashing out are completely amateur, nickel and dime nonsense.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have one broker, he knows what my strategy is.  You claim to have
>>>>> three brokers.  That is zero strategy.
>>>>
>>>> Is HH such a simpleton he does not understand a what a "paper loss"
>>>> is?
>>>
>>> Hugh definitely has a lot of time on his hands.
>>
>> Not necessarily.  Myself, I type very quickly, and it takes very little
>> time to debunk the manure. It's all so much faster and easier when your
>> arguments are supported by facts.
> 
> Well said.  That ancient class to become a touch-typist has paid for
> itself many, many times over in its productivity gains.  And its quite
> easy to debunk nonsense written by buffoons*.
> 
> * - I'd say "Neanderthalic", but that'd be an insult to Neanderthals.

I didn't take touch typing in high school, though I should have. A buddy
of mine, a C programmer by profession, saw me two-finger typing on my new
AT clone and handed me an actual floppy disk with a typing tutor program
on it. He said, you will hate every second of it, but do all the
exercises. You can thank me later.

I thanked him later. 

	
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On 2018-02-10 10:28 AM, Carbon wrote:
> On 02/09/2018 02:05 PM, -hh wrote:
>> On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 1:11:22 PM UTC-5, Carbon wrote:
>>> On 02/09/2018 12:58 PM, Dene wrote:
>>>> On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 7:41:38 AM UTC-8, MNMikeW wrote:
>>>>> Moderate wrote:
>>>>>> -hh Wrote in message:
>>>>>>> Bobby writes:
>>>>>>>> Alan Baker  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2018-02-08 6:05 PM, Moderate wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> -hh Wrote in message:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 7:42:15 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...despite the fact that he hadn't actually done anything to
>>>>>>>>>>>> change the climate established by the previous
>>>>>>>>>>>> adminstration...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...so will he get the blame for the losses by you wing nuts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
<https://www.google.ca/search?tbm=fin&q=INDEXDJX:+.DJI&stick=...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And sometimes, it pays to get out of the market ... right
>>>>>>>>>>> "Moderate"? <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2018/P4_puddle.jpg>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Always a mistake.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not that you'll ever tell us what you mean by that...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Moderate is being ignorant of how & why one should periodically
>>>>>>> rebalance, as well as to shift ratios based on risk tolerance. With
>>>>>>> the Dow being so far up in 2017, pretty much everyone was due to
>>>>>>> shift ("cash out") a portion of those gains out, and into the other
>>>>>>> segments to have a balanced portfolio.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It doesn't matter what he meant his 40G is gone.  He's not rich
>>>>>>>> anymore.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gosh, golly:  there's been a sudden cessation of his bravado...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Such a liar.  Rebalancing is not 'cashing out' as you claimed you
>>>>>> did.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rebalancing is what experienced investors like myself have done for
>>>>>> years.  You are such a fraud you don't understand the basic
>>>>>> terminology of investing.
>>
>> If Moderate really was adequately experienced, he would have neither
>> bragged about paper gains, nor considered only $40K to be 'rich'.
>>
>>>>>> I previously posted how my accounts are ballanced.  Your claims of
>>>>>> cashing out are completely amateur, nickel and dime nonsense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have one broker, he knows what my strategy is.  You claim to have
>>>>>> three brokers.  That is zero strategy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is HH such a simpleton he does not understand a what a "paper loss"
>>>>> is?
>>>>
>>>> Hugh definitely has a lot of time on his hands.
>>>
>>> Not necessarily.  Myself, I type very quickly, and it takes very little
>>> time to debunk the manure. It's all so much faster and easier when your
>>> arguments are supported by facts.
>>
>> Well said.  That ancient class to become a touch-typist has paid for
>> itself many, many times over in its productivity gains.  And its quite
>> easy to debunk nonsense written by buffoons*.
>>
>> * - I'd say "Neanderthalic", but that'd be an insult to Neanderthals.
> 
> I didn't take touch typing in high school, though I should have. A buddy
> of mine, a C programmer by profession, saw me two-finger typing on my new
> AT clone and handed me an actual floppy disk with a typing tutor program
> on it. He said, you will hate every second of it, but do all the
> exercises. You can thank me later.
> 
> I thanked him later.
> 

I developed a simpler method that is utterly foolproof if you follow it:

Look at the keys all you want...

....but use the correct fingers on every key.

:-) 

	
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> On 2018-02-10 10:28 AM, Carbon wrote:
> > On 02/09/2018 02:05 PM, -hh wrote:
> >> On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 1:11:22 PM UTC-5, Carbon wrote:
> >>> On 02/09/2018 12:58 PM, Dene wrote:
> >>>> On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 7:41:38 AM UTC-8, MNMikeW wrote:
> >>>>> Moderate wrote:
> >>>>>> -hh Wrote in message:
> >>>>>>> Bobby writes:
> >>>>>>>> Alan Baker  wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 2018-02-08 6:05 PM, Moderate wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> -hh Wrote in message:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 7:42:15 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ...despite the fact that he hadn't actually done anything to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> change the climate established by the previous
> >>>>>>>>>>>> adminstration...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ...so will he get the blame for the losses by you wing nuts?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
<https://www.google.ca/search?tbm=fin&q=INDEXDJX:+.DJI&stick=...
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> And sometimes, it pays to get out of the market ... right
> >>>>>>>>>>> "Moderate"? <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2018/P4_puddle.jpg>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Always a mistake.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Not that you'll ever tell us what you mean by that...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Moderate is being ignorant of how & why one should periodically
> >>>>>>> rebalance, as well as to shift ratios based on risk tolerance. With
> >>>>>>> the Dow being so far up in 2017, pretty much everyone was due to
> >>>>>>> shift ("cash out") a portion of those gains out, and into the other
> >>>>>>> segments to have a balanced portfolio.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It doesn't matter what he meant his 40G is gone.  He's not rich
> >>>>>>>> anymore.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Gosh, golly:  there's been a sudden cessation of his bravado...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Such a liar.  Rebalancing is not 'cashing out' as you claimed you
> >>>>>> did.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Rebalancing is what experienced investors like myself have done for
> >>>>>> years.  You are such a fraud you don't understand the basic
> >>>>>> terminology of investing.
> >>
> >> If Moderate really was adequately experienced, he would have neither
> >> bragged about paper gains, nor considered only $40K to be 'rich'.
> >>
> >>>>>> I previously posted how my accounts are ballanced.  Your claims of
> >>>>>> cashing out are completely amateur, nickel and dime nonsense.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have one broker, he knows what my strategy is.  You claim to have
> >>>>>> three brokers.  That is zero strategy.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is HH such a simpleton he does not understand a what a "paper loss"
> >>>>> is?
> >>>>
> >>>> Hugh definitely has a lot of time on his hands.
> >>>
> >>> Not necessarily.  Myself, I type very quickly, and it takes very little
> >>> time to debunk the manure. It's all so much faster and easier when your
> >>> arguments are supported by facts.
> >>
> >> Well said.  That ancient class to become a touch-typist has paid for
> >> itself many, many times over in its productivity gains.  And its quite
> >> easy to debunk nonsense written by buffoons*.
> >>
> >> * - I'd say "Neanderthalic", but that'd be an insult to Neanderthals.
> > 
> > I didn't take touch typing in high school, though I should have. A buddy
> > of mine, a C programmer by profession, saw me two-finger typing on my new
> > AT clone and handed me an actual floppy disk with a typing tutor program
> > on it. He said, you will hate every second of it, but do all the
> > exercises. You can thank me later.
> > 
> > I thanked him later.
> > 
> 
> I developed a simpler method that is utterly foolproof if you follow it:
> 
> Look at the keys all you want...
> 
> ...but use the correct fingers on every key.
> 
> :-)

Asshole. 

	
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On 2/10/2018 2:41 PM, michaelunowho@gmail.com wrote:
>> I developed a simpler method that is utterly foolproof if you follow it:
>>
>> Look at the keys all you want...
>>
>> ...but use the correct fingers on every key.
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>> :-)
> Asshole.
> 
  To put in very kindly! 

	
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On 2/10/2018 12:55 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> I developed a simpler method that is utterly foolproof

Impossible, YOU are a fool.

Now fuck off and die. 

	
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> 
> Impossible, YOU are a fool.
> 
> Now fuck off and die.
> 

They don't teach typing in Canada?  What kind of shithole country
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> Is HH such a simpleton he does not understand a what a "paper loss"
> is?

LOL, you trapped one of your own. Greg reckons you are wrong and
Moderate is hemorrhaging money.

Perhaps you three should gather in a circle and "work" it out.

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On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 6:21:58 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
> Bobby writes:
> > Alan Baker  wrote: 
> >>On 2018-02-08 6:05 PM, Moderate wrote: 
> >>> -hh Wrote in message: 
> >>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 7:42:15 PM UTC-5, Alan Baker wrote: 
> >>>>> ...despite the fact that he hadn't actually done anything to change the 
> >>>>> climate established by the previous adminstration... 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> ...so will he get the blame for the losses by you wing nuts? 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>
<https://www.google.ca/search?tbm=fin&q=INDEXDJX:+.DJI&stick=... 
> >>>> 
> >>>> And sometimes, it pays to get out of the market ... right "Moderate"? 
> >>>> <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2018/P4_puddle.jpg> 
> >>> 
> >>> Always a mistake. 
> >> 
> >>Not that you'll ever tell us what you mean by that... 
> 
> Moderate is being ignorant of how & why one should periodically rebalance,
> as well as to shift ratios based on risk tolerance.  With the Dow being so far up 
> in 2017, pretty much everyone was due to shift ("cash out") a portion of those 
> gains out, and into the other segments to have a balanced portfolio.  
> 
> > It doesn't matter what he meant his 40G is gone.  He's not rich anymore..
> 
> Gosh, golly:  there's been a sudden cessation of his bravado...
> 
> 
> -hh 


Golly; and today you are a financial maven, along with all your other non-talents.

But keep up your babbling, it's always highly amusing. 

	
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>>>> climate established by the previous adminstration...
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>> Always a mistake.
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> Not that you'll ever tell us what you mean by that...

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> -hh<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> Wrote in message:
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> change the >> climate established by the previous adminstration...
> >> 
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> >> 
> >>
>
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> > 
> > And sometimes, it pays to get out of the market ... right
> > "Moderate"?
> > 
> > <http://huntzinger.com/photo/2018/P4_puddle.jpg>
> > 
> > 
> > -hh
> > 
> 
> Always a mistake.

Lol.

Moderate says buy high, sell low, make other people happy.

"Totally vindicated", $60,000 down this month.

Everybody else saw it coming and did warn you but as long as you don't
need it and aren't planning on retiring soon... it's just a blip you
failed to take advantage of.

Embarrassing but not fatal.

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You LIE with utter insincerity, Cuntnadian shitstain!


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/year-one-list-81-major-trump-achi...

With the passage of the GOP tax bill this week, the Trump administration 
has scored 81 major achievements in its first year, making good on 
campaign promises to provide significant tax cuts, boost U.S. energy 
production, and restore respect to the United States, according to the 
White House.

And along the way, President Trump even outdid his own expectations and 
slashed at least 11 major legacy items of former President Barack Obama, 
including cracking down on the open border, slowing recognition of 
communist Cuba and effectively killing Obamacare by ending the mandate 
that everyone have health insurance or face a tax.

According to the White House, the 81 accomplishments are in 12 major 
categories and include well over 100 other minor achievements.

The unofficial list helps to counter the impression in the mainstream 
media and among congressional Democrats that outside the approval of 
Supreme Court Neil Gorsuch and passage of the tax reform bill little was 
done.

Administrations typically tout their achievements broadly at the end of 
each year, but Trump plans to list jobs added, regulations killed, 
foreign policy victories won, and moves to help veterans and even drug 
addicts.

And in a sign of support for conservatives, the White House also is 
highlighting achievements for the pro-life community.

Below are the 12 categories and 81 wins cited by the White House.

Jobs and the economy

     Passage of the tax reform bill providing $5.5 billion in cuts and 
repealing the Obamacare mandate.
     Increase of the GDP above 3 percent.
     Creation of 1.7 million new jobs, cutting unemployment to 4.1 percent.
     Saw the Dow Jones reach record highs.
     A rebound in economic confidence to a 17-year high.
     A new executive order to boost apprenticeships.
     A move to boost computer sciences in Education Department programs.
     Prioritizing women-owned businesses for some $500 million in SBA loans.

Killing job-stifling regulations

     Signed an Executive Order demanding that two regulations be killed 
for every new one creates. He beat that big and cut 16 rules and 
regulations for every one created, saving $8.1 billion.
     Signed 15 congressional regulatory cuts.
     Withdrew from the Obama-era Paris Climate Agreement, ending the 
threat of environmental regulations.
     Signed an Executive Order cutting the time for infrastructure 
permit approvals.
     Eliminated an Obama rule on streams that Trump felt unfairly 
targeted the coal industry.

Fair trade

     Made good on his campaign promise to withdraw from the 
Trans-Pacific Partnership.
     Opened up the North American Free Trade Agreement for talks to 
better the deal for the U.S.
     Worked to bring companies back to the U.S., and companies like 
Toyota, Mazda, Broadcom Limited, and Foxconn announced plans to open 
U.S. plants.
     Worked to promote the sale of U.S products abroad.
     Made enforcement of U.S. trade laws, especially those that involve 
national security, a priority.
     Ended Obama’s deal with Cuba.

Boosting U.S. energy dominance

     The Department of Interior, which has led the way in cutting 
regulations, opened plans to lease 77 million acres in the Gulf of 
Mexico for oil and gas drilling.
     Trump traveled the world to promote the sale and use of U.S. energy.
     Expanded energy infrastructure projects like the Keystone XL 
Pipeline snubbed by Obama.
     Ordered the Environmental Protection Agency to kill Obama’s Clean 
Power Plan.
     EPA is reconsidering Obama rules on methane emissions.

Protecting the U.S. homeland

     Laid out new principles for reforming immigration and announced 
plan to end "chain migration," which lets one legal immigrant to bring 
in dozens of family members.
     Made progress to build the border wall with Mexico.
     Ended the Obama-era “catch and release” of illegal immigrants.
     Boosted the arrests of illegals inside the U.S.
     Doubled the number of counties participating with Immigration and 
Customs Enforcement charged with deporting illegals.
     Removed 36 percent more criminal gang members than in fiscal 2016.
     Started the end of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival program.
     Ditto for other amnesty programs like Deferred Action for Parents 
of Americans.
     Cracking down on some 300 sanctuary cities that defy ICE but still 
get federal dollars.
     Added some 100 new immigration judges.

Protecting communities

     Justice announced grants of $98 million to fund 802 new cops.
     Justice worked with Central American nations to arrest and charge 
4,000 MS-13 members.
     Homeland rounded up nearly 800 MS-13 members, an 83 percent 
one-year increase.
     Signed three executive orders aimed at cracking down on 
international criminal organizations.
     Attorney General Jeff Sessions created new National Public Safety 
Partnership, a cooperative initiative with cities to reduce violent crimes.

Accountability

     Trump has nominated 73 federal judges and won his nomination of 
Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court.
     Ordered ethical standards including a lobbying ban.
     Called for a comprehensive plan to reorganize the executive branch.
     Ordered an overhaul to modernize the digital government.
     Called for a full audit of the Pentagon and its spending.

Combatting opioids

     First, the president declared a Nationwide Public Health Emergency 
on opioids.
     His Council of Economic Advisors played a role in determining that 
overdoses are underreported by as much as 24 percent.
     The Department of Health and Human Services laid out a new 
five-point strategy to fight the crisis.
     Justice announced it was scheduling fentanyl substances as a drug 
class under the Controlled Substances Act.
     Justice started a fraud crackdown, arresting more than 400.
     The administration added $500 million to fight the crisis.
     On National Drug Take Back Day, the Drug Enforcement Agency 
collected 456 tons.

Protecting life

     In his first week, Trump reinstated and expanded the Mexico City 
Policy that blocks some $9 billion in foreign aid being used for abortions.
     Worked with Congress on a bill overturning an Obama regulation that 
blocked states from defunding abortion providers.
     Published guidance to block Obamacare money from supporting abortion.

Helping veterans

     Signed the Veterans Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act 
to allow senior officials in the Department of Veterans Affairs to fire 
failing employees and establish safeguards to protect whistleblowers.
     Signed the Veterans Appeals Improvement and Modernization Act.
     Signed the Harry W. Colmery Veterans Educational Assistance Act, to 
provide support.
     Signed the VA Choice and Quality Employment Act of 2017 to 
authorize $2.1 billion in additional funds for the Veterans Choice Program.
     Created a VA hotline.
     Had the VA launch an online “Access and Quality Tool,” providing 
veterans with a way to access wait time and quality of care data.
     With VA Secretary Dr. David Shulkin, announced three initiatives to 
expand access to healthcare for veterans using telehealth technology.

Promoting peace through strength

     Directed the rebuilding of the military and ordered a new national 
strategy and nuclear posture review.
     Worked to increase defense spending.
     Empowered military leaders to “seize the initiative and win,” 
reducing the need for a White House sign off on every mission.
     Directed the revival of the National Space Council to develop space 
war strategies.
     Elevated U.S. Cyber Command into a major warfighting command.
     Withdrew from the U.N. Global Compact on Migration, which Trump saw 
as a threat to borders.
     Imposed a travel ban on nations that lack border and anti-terrorism 
security.
     Saw ISIS lose virtually all of its territory.
     Pushed for strong action against global outlaw North Korea and its 
development of nuclear weapons.
     Announced a new Afghanistan strategy that strengthens support for 
U.S. forces at war with terrorism.
     NATO increased support for the war in Afghanistan.
     Approved a new Iran strategy plan focused on neutralizing the 
country’s influence in the region.
     Ordered missile strikes against a Syrian airbase used in a chemical 
weapons attack.
     Prevented subsequent chemical attacks by announcing a plan to 
detect them better and warned of future strikes if they were used.
     Ordered new sanctions on the dictatorship in Venezuela.

Restoring confidence in and respect for America

     Trump won the release of Americans held abroad, often using his 
personal relationships with world leaders.
     Made good on a campaign promise to recognize Jerusalem as the 
capital of Israel.
     Conducted a historic 12-day trip through Asia, winning new 
cooperative deals. On the trip, he attended three regional summits to 
promote American interests.
     He traveled to the Middle East and Europe to build new 
relationships with leaders.
     Traveled to Poland and on to Germany for the G-20 meeting where he 
pushed again for funding of women entrepreneurs.

Paul Bedard, the Washington Examiner's "Washington Secrets" columnist, 
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On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 12:49:54 PM UTC-5, Paris Troyka wrote:
> On 2/8/2018 5:42 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
> > ...despite the fact that he hadn't actually done anything to change the 
> > climate established by the previous adminstration...
> 
> You LIE with utter insincerity, Cuntnadian shitstain!
> 
> 
>
<http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/year-one-list-81-major-trump-achi...
> 
> With the passage of the GOP tax bill this week, the Trump administration 
> has scored 81 major achievements in its first year, making good on 
> campaign promises to provide significant tax cuts, boost U.S. energy 
> production, and restore respect to the United States, according to the 
> White House.

For varying definitions of 'major' and 'accomplishments', of course.
 
> And along the way, President Trump even outdid his own expectations and 
> slashed at least 11 major legacy items of former President Barack Obama, 
> including cracking down on the open border, slowing recognition of 
> communist Cuba and effectively killing Obamacare by ending the mandate 
> that everyone have health insurance or face a tax.
> 
> According to the White House, the 81 accomplishments are in 12 major 
> categories and include well over 100 other minor achievements.
> 
> The unofficial list helps to counter the impression in the mainstream 
> media and among congressional Democrats that outside the approval of 
> Supreme Court Neil Gorsuch and passage of the tax reform bill little was 
> done.
> 
> Administrations typically tout their achievements broadly at the end of 
> each year, but Trump plans to list jobs added, regulations killed, 
> foreign policy victories won, and moves to help veterans and even drug 
> addicts.
> 
> And in a sign of support for conservatives, the White House also is 
> highlighting achievements for the pro-life community.
> 
> Below are the 12 categories and 81 wins cited by the White House.
> 
> Jobs and the economy
> 
>      Passage of the tax reform bill providing $5.5 billion in cuts and 
> repealing the Obamacare mandate.

Borrow & Spend.  Plus the repeal of the ACA is going to cause an increase 
in the rate of Healthcare insurance rate increases.  

>      Increase of the GDP above 3 percent.

Funny how (1.2%, 3.1%, 3.2%, 2.6%) combine to an annual average of 3%.
Conventional mathematics make it out to be 2.5%.  

Plus, wasn't the promise for 4%?  

>      Creation of 1.7 million new jobs, cutting unemployment to 4.1 percent.

But is this rate up or down from prior years?  Last time I ran the numbers,
he was down roughly 18%.  


>      Saw the Dow Jones reach record highs.

Funny how the Stock Market has been responding this month, eh?  
Maybe he should have kept that woman in charge of the Fed

>      A rebound in economic confidence to a 17-year high.

Has there been a quantitative 'rebound' in actual median income to support it?  

>      A new executive order to boost apprenticeships.

How many have actually been hired?  

>      A move to boost computer sciences in Education Department programs.

Was the Education Dept's budget increased or cut?

>      Prioritizing women-owned businesses for some $500 million in SBA loans.

Was the SBA's budget increased or cut?


> Killing job-stifling regulations

Such as, and at what longer term price/trade-off?   Are there specifics to support? 

 
>      Signed an Executive Order demanding that two regulations be killed 
> for every new one creates. He beat that big and cut 16 rules and 
> regulations for every one created, saving $8.1 billion.

A highly arbitrary rule to begin with. And just who was saving that money?   What
was the specific benefit to the taxpayers?  


>      Signed 15 congressional regulatory cuts.

Were two of these to the SBA and Education Dept?  

>      Withdrew from the Obama-era Paris Climate Agreement, ending the 
> threat of environmental regulations.

Instead, we have the threat of economic disruption from climate change increased.  

>      Signed an Executive Order cutting the time for infrastructure 
> permit approvals.

A Dilbert-esque "Work faster!" from the pointy hair boss? 

>      Eliminated an Obama rule on streams that Trump felt unfairly 
> targeted the coal industry.

At the cost of jobs in non-coal energy sectors.  Solar lost ~10,000 domestic jobs.
This is called "Picking Winners & Losers", which had been an anathema to 
Republicans within the past decade. 
 
> Fair trade

Vague.  And saber-rattling on steel has already harmed several US industries,
including a Steel Mill in PA that's on the verge of shutting down.  


>      Made good on his campaign promise to withdraw from the 
> Trans-Pacific Partnership.

Translation:  retreated from being a leader.  

> Opened up the North American Free Trade Agreement for talks to 
> better the deal for the U.S.

Translation:  "Started a Journey".   What's been accomplished to date?  Zero?

>      Worked to bring companies back to the U.S., and companies like 
> Toyota, Mazda, Broadcom Limited, and Foxconn announced plans to open 
> U.S. plants.

Many of which had already been planned & budgeted .. but they're now being
politically savvy and brown-nosing.  

In the meantime, Carrier still moved to Mexico.


>      Worked to promote the sale of U.S products abroad.

Translation:  "Started a Journey".   What's been accomplished to date?  Zero?

>      Made enforcement of U.S. trade laws, especially those that involve 
> national security, a priority.

Translation:  "Started a Journey".   What's been accomplished to date?  Zero?

>      Ended Obama’s deal with Cuba.

Just what "deal" was this? 


> Boosting U.S. energy dominance

Hint:  that was from fracking, and the export law was changed back in 2015.  

 
>      The Department of Interior, which has led the way in cutting 
> regulations, opened plans to lease 77 million acres in the Gulf of 
> Mexico for oil and gas drilling.

And the taxpayers get what percent commission?  

>      Trump traveled the world to promote the sale and use of U.S. energy.

I have a frequent flier account too...

>  Expanded energy infrastructure projects like the Keystone XL 
> Pipeline snubbed by Obama.

The Canadian tar sands are pretty rude environmentally.  Personally, I would
have allowed it but imposed a carbon tax on every bbl that transits:  let the
market decide from there. 

>      Ordered the Environmental Protection Agency to kill Obama’s Clean 
> Power Plan.

Picking winners & losers ... again

>      EPA is reconsidering Obama rules on methane emissions.

Another corporate give-away.

 
> Protecting the U.S. homeland

Translation:  made highly provocative statements which alientated allies and
motivated terrorists.  

>      Laid out new principles for reforming immigration and announced 
> plan to end "chain migration," which lets one legal immigrant to bring 
> in dozens of family members.

Illustrated his ignorance of history in how these were created with the intent
to provide an immigration advantage to white christian europeans.  

Provided zero citizenships for the DACA's & Dreamers, despite his promise to do so.  

>      Made progress to build the border wall with Mexico.

Translation:  a Call for Proposals in the CBD. 

>      Ended the Obama-era “catch and release” of illegal immigrants.

Which never existed?  

>      Boosted the arrests of illegals inside the U.S.

Let's see the numbers.  Including the numbers which were low hanging fruit of
essentially zero objective safety risk (i.e., no criminal backgrounds) as well as
those of the "bad guys" that were promised to have been the priority.

>      Doubled the number of counties participating with Immigration and 
> Customs Enforcement charged with deporting illegals.

Definition fo "participating" is ... what? 

>      Removed 36 percent more criminal gang members than in fiscal 2016.

Which included how many which have been found to have been misidentified?  

>      Started the end of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival program..

Number of DACA's granted citizenship is ... still zero, isn't it?   



and so on....



>      Ditto for other amnesty programs like Deferred Action for Parents 
> of Americans.
>      Cracking down on some 300 sanctuary cities that defy ICE but still 
> get federal dollars.
>      Added some 100 new immigration judges.
> 
> Protecting communities
> 
>      Justice announced grants of $98 million to fund 802 new cops.
>      Justice worked with Central American nations to arrest and charge 
> 4,000 MS-13 members.
>      Homeland rounded up nearly 800 MS-13 members, an 83 percent 
> one-year increase.
>      Signed three executive orders aimed at cracking down on 
> international criminal organizations.
>      Attorney General Jeff Sessions created new National Public Safety 
> Partnership, a cooperative initiative with cities to reduce violent crimes.
> 
> Accountability
> 
>      Trump has nominated 73 federal judges and won his nomination of 
> Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court.
>      Ordered ethical standards including a lobbying ban.
>      Called for a comprehensive plan to reorganize the executive branch.
>      Ordered an overhaul to modernize the digital government.
>      Called for a full audit of the Pentagon and its spending.
> 
> Combatting opioids
> 
>      First, the president declared a Nationwide Public Health Emergency 
> on opioids.
>      His Council of Economic Advisors played a role in determining that 
> overdoses are underreported by as much as 24 percent.
>      The Department of Health and Human Services laid out a new 
> five-point strategy to fight the crisis.
>      Justice announced it was scheduling fentanyl substances as a drug 
> class under the Controlled Substances Act.
>      Justice started a fraud crackdown, arresting more than 400.
>      The administration added $500 million to fight the crisis.
>      On National Drug Take Back Day, the Drug Enforcement Agency 
> collected 456 tons.
> 
> Protecting life
> 
>      In his first week, Trump reinstated and expanded the Mexico City 
> Policy that blocks some $9 billion in foreign aid being used for abortions.
>      Worked with Congress on a bill overturning an Obama regulation that 
> blocked states from defunding abortion providers.
>      Published guidance to block Obamacare money from supporting abortion..
> 
> Helping veterans
> 
>      Signed the Veterans Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act 
> to allow senior officials in the Department of Veterans Affairs to fire 
> failing employees and establish safeguards to protect whistleblowers.
>      Signed the Veterans Appeals Improvement and Modernization Act.
>      Signed the Harry W. Colmery Veterans Educational Assistance Act, to 
> provide support.
>      Signed the VA Choice and Quality Employment Act of 2017 to 
> authorize $2.1 billion in additional funds for the Veterans Choice Program.
>      Created a VA hotline.
>      Had the VA launch an online “Access and Quality Tool,” providing 
> veterans with a way to access wait time and quality of care data.
>      With VA Secretary Dr. David Shulkin, announced three initiatives to 
> expand access to healthcare for veterans using telehealth technology.
> 
> Promoting peace through strength
> 
>      Directed the rebuilding of the military and ordered a new national 
> strategy and nuclear posture review.
>      Worked to increase defense spending.
>      Empowered military leaders to “seize the initiative and win,” 
> reducing the need for a White House sign off on every mission.
>      Directed the revival of the National Space Council to develop space 
> war strategies.
>      Elevated U.S. Cyber Command into a major warfighting command.
>      Withdrew from the U.N. Global Compact on Migration, which Trump saw 
> as a threat to borders.
>      Imposed a travel ban on nations that lack border and anti-terrorism 
> security.
>      Saw ISIS lose virtually all of its territory.
>      Pushed for strong action against global outlaw North Korea and its 
> development of nuclear weapons.
>      Announced a new Afghanistan strategy that strengthens support for 
> U.S. forces at war with terrorism.
>      NATO increased support for the war in Afghanistan.
>      Approved a new Iran strategy plan focused on neutralizing the 
> country’s influence in the region.
>      Ordered missile strikes against a Syrian airbase used in a chemical 
> weapons attack.
>      Prevented subsequent chemical attacks by announcing a plan to 
> detect them better and warned of future strikes if they were used.
>      Ordered new sanctions on the dictatorship in Venezuela.
> 
> Restoring confidence in and respect for America
> 
>      Trump won the release of Americans held abroad, often using his 
> personal relationships with world leaders.
>      Made good on a campaign promise to recognize Jerusalem as the 
> capital of Israel.
>      Conducted a historic 12-day trip through Asia, winning new 
> cooperative deals. On the trip, he attended three regional summits to 
> promote American interests.
>      He traveled to the Middle East and Europe to build new 
> relationships with leaders.
>      Traveled to Poland and on to Germany for the G-20 meeting where he 
> pushed again for funding of women entrepreneurs.
> 
> Paul Bedard, the Washington Examiner's "Washington Secrets" columnist, 
> can be contacted at pbedard@washingtonexaminer.com 

	
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>On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 12:49:54 PM UTC-5, Paris Troyka wrote:
>> On 2/8/2018 5:42 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>> > ...despite the fact that he hadn't actually done anything to change the 
>> > climate established by the previous adminstration...
>> 
>> You LIE with utter insincerity, Cuntnadian shitstain!
>> 
>> 
>>
<http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/year-one-list-81-major-trump-achi...
>> 
>> With the passage of the GOP tax bill this week, the Trump administration 

Skip to the end for the truth.
>has scored 81 major achievements in its first year, making good on 
>> campaign promises to provide significant tax cuts, boost U.S. energy 
>> production, and restore respect to the United States, according to the 
>> White House.
>
>For varying definitions of 'major' and 'accomplishments', of course.
> 
>> And along the way, President Trump even outdid his own expectations and 
>> slashed at least 11 major legacy items of former President Barack Obama, 
>> including cracking down on the open border, slowing recognition of 
>> communist Cuba and effectively killing Obamacare by ending the mandate 
>> that everyone have health insurance or face a tax.
>> 
>> According to the White House, the 81 accomplishments are in 12 major 
>> categories and include well over 100 other minor achievements.
>> 
>> The unofficial list helps to counter the impression in the mainstream 
>> media and among congressional Democrats that outside the approval of 
>> Supreme Court Neil Gorsuch and passage of the tax reform bill little was 
>> done.
>> 
>> Administrations typically tout their achievements broadly at the end of 
>> each year, but Trump plans to list jobs added, regulations killed, 
>> foreign policy victories won, and moves to help veterans and even drug 
>> addicts.
>> 
>> And in a sign of support for conservatives, the White House also is 
>> highlighting achievements for the pro-life community.
>> 
>> Below are the 12 categories and 81 wins cited by the White House.
>> 
>> Jobs and the economy
>> 
>>      Passage of the tax reform bill providing $5.5 billion in cuts and 
>> repealing the Obamacare mandate.
>
>Borrow & Spend.  Plus the repeal of the ACA is going to cause an increase 
>in the rate of Healthcare insurance rate increases.  
>
>>      Increase of the GDP above 3 percent.
>
>Funny how (1.2%, 3.1%, 3.2%, 2.6%) combine to an annual average of 3%.
>Conventional mathematics make it out to be 2.5%.  
>
>Plus, wasn't the promise for 4%?  
>
>>      Creation of 1.7 million new jobs, cutting unemployment to 4.1 percent.
>
>But is this rate up or down from prior years?  Last time I ran the numbers,
>he was down roughly 18%.  
>
>
>>      Saw the Dow Jones reach record highs.
>
>Funny how the Stock Market has been responding this month, eh?  
>Maybe he should have kept that woman in charge of the Fed
>
>>      A rebound in economic confidence to a 17-year high.
>
>Has there been a quantitative 'rebound' in actual median income to support it?  
>
>>      A new executive order to boost apprenticeships.
>
>How many have actually been hired?  
>
>>      A move to boost computer sciences in Education Department programs.
>
>Was the Education Dept's budget increased or cut?
>
>>      Prioritizing women-owned businesses for some $500 million in SBA loans.
>
>Was the SBA's budget increased or cut?
>
>
>> Killing job-stifling regulations
>
>Such as, and at what longer term price/trade-off?   Are there specifics to support? 
>
> 
>>      Signed an Executive Order demanding that two regulations be killed 
>> for every new one creates. He beat that big and cut 16 rules and 
>> regulations for every one created, saving $8.1 billion.
>
>A highly arbitrary rule to begin with. And just who was saving that money?   What
>was the specific benefit to the taxpayers?  
>
>
>>      Signed 15 congressional regulatory cuts.
>
>Were two of these to the SBA and Education Dept?  
>
>>      Withdrew from the Obama-era Paris Climate Agreement, ending the 
>> threat of environmental regulations.
>
>Instead, we have the threat of economic disruption from climate change increased.  
>
>>      Signed an Executive Order cutting the time for infrastructure 
>> permit approvals.
>
>A Dilbert-esque "Work faster!" from the pointy hair boss? 
>
>>      Eliminated an Obama rule on streams that Trump felt unfairly 
>> targeted the coal industry.
>
>At the cost of jobs in non-coal energy sectors.  Solar lost ~10,000 domestic jobs.
>This is called "Picking Winners & Losers", which had been an anathema to 
>Republicans within the past decade. 
> 
>> Fair trade
>
>Vague.  And saber-rattling on steel has already harmed several US industries,
>including a Steel Mill in PA that's on the verge of shutting down.  
>
>
>>      Made good on his campaign promise to withdraw from the 
>> Trans-Pacific Partnership.
>
>Translation:  retreated from being a leader.  
>
>> Opened up the North American Free Trade Agreement for talks to 
>> better the deal for the U.S.
>
>Translation:  "Started a Journey".   What's been accomplished to date?  Zero?
>
>>      Worked to bring companies back to the U.S., and companies like 
>> Toyota, Mazda, Broadcom Limited, and Foxconn announced plans to open 
>> U.S. plants.
>
>Many of which had already been planned & budgeted .. but they're now being
>politically savvy and brown-nosing.  
>
>In the meantime, Carrier still moved to Mexico.
>
>
>>      Worked to promote the sale of U.S products abroad.
>
>Translation:  "Started a Journey".   What's been accomplished to date?  Zero?
>
>>      Made enforcement of U.S. trade laws, especially those that involve 
>> national security, a priority.
>
>Translation:  "Started a Journey".   What's been accomplished to date?  Zero?
>
>>      Ended Obama 

	
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> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 13:52:23 -0800 (PST), -hh wrote:
> >On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 12:49:54 PM UTC-5, Paris Troyka wrote:
> >> [...]
> 
> Skip to the end for the truth.

Oh, the truth was evident from the start:  this was a highly partisan piece of spin, 
long on claims and short on reality.  My questions revealed that the party making 
the claims is responsible for substantiation, and this list of "major accomplishments" 
was quite shallow as illustrated by how so many of them were of the "started to..." ilk, 
which is grossly short of being an actual _accomplishment_.  


> About 99% of this is a crock of shit.  Most of the things that he
> reversed from the Obama administration were terrible mistakes.  Most
> of the gains were already in motion before he even decided to run for
> president.

Agreed, and it hardly is a "major" accomplishment to stop/undo someone else's work.

FWIW, I do see that the nymshifter troll did attempt a response, but the simple
fact that it is full of name-calling Ad Hominems reveals that reality isn't on his side.

Similarly, from what I skimmed, he dodged that Trump promised 4% GDP, with
"But- but- but ...Obama!" distraction attempts.  

Similarly dodged on that it is known that healthcare rates spiked last year because 
of the Trump threats to stop Fed payments, which raised uncertainties & risks for
the private insurers ... as well as their 'revenge' strategy to clobber the Silver plans
because the Feds effectively can't not back out of paying those in the near term.  

Bottom line is damn simple:  if its an accomplishment, it has tangible results
which can be measured and reported on.  

Flying to a meeting isn't an accomplishment any more than me saying that because 
I walked out the door this morning to get the newspaper that I've started my solo
walking journey around the world, or that I've started my transformation into a 
multi-millionaire because I bought a lottery ticket at lunch for next week's drawing.  


> And most of all he has no morals. 

Yeah, well that too.  Lists like this just prove that his handlers and fanboys are worse 
than the 'swamp' by a large margin, in no small part because these traitors are smugly 
shameless in their duplicity and greed.  


-hh 

	
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On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 17:32:54 -0800 (PST), -hh<recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 6:11:00 PM UTC-5, B...@onramp.net wrote:
>> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 13:52:23 -0800 (PST), -hh wrote:
>> >On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 12:49:54 PM UTC-5, Paris Troyka wrote:
>> >> [...]
>> 
>> Skip to the end for the truth.
>
>Oh, the truth was evident from the start:  this was a highly partisan piece of spin, 
>long on claims and short on reality.  My questions revealed thate the party making 
>the claims is responsible for substantiation, and this list of "major accomplishments" 
>was quite shallow as illustrated by how so many of them were of the "started to..." ilk, 
>which is grossly short of being an actual _accomplishment_.  

It broke me up when I saw his handle.  Is he comparing the Trump
administration to Breshnev's?  Remember what happened to Russia!  All
of the good changes at the beginning of Perestroika led to disaster.

Your review below was excellent.
BK
>
>
>> About 99% of this is a crock of shit.  Most of the things that he
>> reversed from the Obama administration were terrible mistakes.  Most
>> of the gains were already in motion before he even decided to run for
>> president.
>
>Agreed, and it hardly is a "major" accomplishment to stop/undo someone else's work.
>
>FWIW, I do see that the nymshifter troll did attempt a response, but the simple
>fact that it is full of name-calling Ad Hominems reveals that reality isn't on his side.
>
>Similarly, from what I skimmed, he dodged that Trump promised 4% GDP, with
>"But- but- but ...Obama!" distraction attempts.  
>
>Similarly dodged on that it is known that healthcare rates spiked last year because 
>of the Trump threats to stop Fed payments, which raised uncertainties & risks for
>the private insurers ... as well as their 'revenge' strategy to clobber the Silver plans
>because the Feds effectively can't not back out of paying those in the near term.  
>
>Bottom line is damn simple:  if its an accomplishment, it has tangible results
>which can be measured and reported on.  
>
>Flying to a meeting isn't an accomplishment any more than me saying that because 
>I walked out the door this morning to get the newspaper that I've started my solo
>walking journey around the world, or that I've started my transformation into a 
>multi-millionaire because I bought a lottery ticket at lunch for next week's drawing.  
>
>
>> And most of all he has no morals. 
>
>Yeah, well that too.  Lists like this just prove that his handlers and fanboys are worse 
>than the 'swamp' by a large margin, in no small part because these traitors are smugly 
>shameless in their duplicity and greed.  
>
>
>-hh 

	
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> -hh wrote: 
>>On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 6:11:00 PM UTC-5, B...@onramp.net wrote: 
>>> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 13:52:23 -0800 (PST), -hh wrote: 
>>> >On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 12:49:54 PM UTC-5, Paris Troyka wrote: 
>>> >> [...] 
>>> 
>>> Skip to the end for the truth. 
>> 
>>Oh, the truth was evident from the start:  this was a highly partisan piece of spin, 
>>long on claims and short on reality.  My questions revealed [that] the party making 
>>the claims is responsible for substantiation, and this list of "major accomplishments" 
>>was quite shallow as illustrated by how so many of them were of the "started to..." ilk, 
>>which is grossly short of being an actual _accomplishment_.   
>
>It broke me up when I saw his handle.  Is he comparing the Trump 
>administration to Breshnev's?  Remember what happened to Russia!  All 
> of the good changes at the beginning of Perestroika led to disaster. 

I’m really not all that zeroed in on the Breschnev period as to just what really 
going on and what happened.  The macro view is that it ended up Putin and
his kleptocracy, 

> Your review below was excellent. 

Thanks.  Where this all gets interesting is how the details behind the façade.  
For example, Apple’s offshore cash repatriation is newsy, but with one of the
wealthiest corporation in for “only” $129B, there’s still a lot of money missing  
to reach the “Trillians!” claimed.  

Plus even if one looks at the $38B they’re reportedly going to pay as not exactly 
chump change, it’s reportedly not going to be paid in 2018, but some fine print 
allows them to pay only $3B this next year, and the rest later (over IIRC a decade), 
without meaningful penalties.  Given how Apple has a bunch of bonds to repay .. gosh, 
I wonder how nicely this all matches up with their existing repayment schedule?  
Oh, and those bonds had funded stock buy-backs, not jobs or infrastructure.


-hh 

	
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> to reach the “Trillians!” claimed.

Boo fucking hoo asshole, nothing happens all at once.

You leftard scum. 

	
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> On 2/11/2018 9:32 PM, -hh wrote:
> > Apple’s offshore cash repatriation is newsy, but with one of the
> > wealthiest corporation in for “only” $129B, there’s still a lot of money missing
> > to reach the “Trillians!” claimed.
> 
> Boo fucking hoo asshole, nothing happens all at once.
> 
> You leftard scum.

The little twerp loves to hear himself babble.  And exaggerate. 

	
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> On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 12:03:28 AM UTC-5, Paris Troyka wrote:
>> On 2/11/2018 9:32 PM, -hh wrote:
>>> Apple’s offshore cash repatriation is newsy, but with one of the
>>> wealthiest corporation in for “only” $129B, there’s still a lot of money missing
>>> to reach the “Trillians!” claimed.
>>
>> Boo fucking hoo asshole, nothing happens all at once.
>>
>> You leftard scum.
> 
> The little twerp loves to hear himself babble.  And exaggerate.
> 
He got his ass handed to him on the list of Trump's accomplishments, 
that's for damned sure! 

	
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>Bobby wrote:
>> -hh wrote: 
>>>On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 6:11:00 PM UTC-5, B...@onramp.net wrote: 
>>>> On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 13:52:23 -0800 (PST), -hh wrote: 
>>>> >On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 12:49:54 PM UTC-5, Paris Troyka wrote: 
>>>> >> [...] 
>>>> 
>>>> Skip to the end for the truth. 
>>> 
>>>Oh, the truth was evident from the start:  this was a highly partisan piece of spin, 
>>>long on claims and short on reality.  My questions revealed [that] the party making 
>>>the claims is responsible for substantiation, and this list of "major accomplishments" 
>>>was quite shallow as illustrated by how so many of them were of the "started to..." ilk, 
>>>which is grossly short of being an actual _accomplishment_.   
>>
>>It broke me up when I saw his handle.  Is he comparing the Trump 
>>administration to Breshnev's?  Remember what happened to Russia!  All 
>> of the good changes at the beginning of Perestroika led to disaster. 
>
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> On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 12:49:54 PM UTC-5, Paris Troyka wrote:
>> On 2/8/2018 5:42 PM, Alan Baker wrote:
>>> ...despite the fact that he hadn't actually done anything to change the
>>> climate established by the previous adminstration...
>>
>> You LIE with utter insincerity, Cuntnadian shitstain!
>>
>>
>>
<http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/year-one-list-81-major-trump-achi...
>>
>> With the passage of the GOP tax bill this week, the Trump administration
>> has scored 81 major achievements in its first year, making good on
>> campaign promises to provide significant tax cuts, boost U.S. energy
>> production, and restore respect to the United States, according to the
>> White House.
> 
> For varying definitions of 'major' and 'accomplishments', of course.

Only to whinging, leftarded, brain-drained canuckleheads...of course!

>> And along the way, President Trump even outdid his own expectations and
>> slashed at least 11 major legacy items of former President Barack Obama,
>> including cracking down on the open border, slowing recognition of
>> communist Cuba and effectively killing Obamacare by ending the mandate
>> that everyone have health insurance or face a tax.
>>
>> According to the White House, the 81 accomplishments are in 12 major
>> categories and include well over 100 other minor achievements.
>>
>> The unofficial list helps to counter the impression in the mainstream
>> media and among congressional Democrats that outside the approval of
>> Supreme Court Neil Gorsuch and passage of the tax reform bill little was
>> done.
>>
>> Administrations typically tout their achievements broadly at the end of
>> each year, but Trump plans to list jobs added, regulations killed,
>> foreign policy victories won, and moves to help veterans and even drug
>> addicts.
>>
>> And in a sign of support for conservatives, the White House also is
>> highlighting achievements for the pro-life community.
>>
>> Below are the 12 categories and 81 wins cited by the White House.
>>
>> Jobs and the economy
>>
>>       Passage of the tax reform bill providing $5.5 billion in cuts and
>> repealing the Obamacare mandate.
> 
> Borrow & Spend.

No borrowing there at all.

It was tax reform.

In fact new revenues come from the TRILLIONS of offshore profits due to 
be returned for the 10% repatriation tax.


> Plus the repeal of the ACA is going to cause an increase
> in the rate of Healthcare insurance rate increases.

No...that already has occurred under Obummer.

You are so uneducated.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/16/news/economy/health-care-costs-rise...

  Prices for medicine, doctor appointments and health insurance rose the 
most last month since 1984. The price increases come amid a broader 
debate about climbing health care costs and high premiums for Obamacare 
coverage.

A recent report by Kaiser/HRET Employer Health Benefits forecasts that 
the average family health care plan will cost $18,142, up 3.4% from 
2015. That's faster than wage growth in America.

Premiums on the Obamacare exchanges are expected to rise by 
double-digits this year.

Some health insurers, such as Aetna, have recently announced they would 
pull out of the Obamacare exchanges, saying Obamacare patients have 
turned out to be sicker and costlier than expected.

>
>>       Increase of the GDP above 3 percent.
> 
> Funny how (1.2%, 3.1%, 3.2%, 2.6%) combine to an annual average of 3%.
> Conventional mathematics make it out to be 2.5%.
> 
> Plus, wasn't the promise for 4%?

Under Obummer we saw:

https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2016/08/02/obama-will-preside...

Barack Obama will leave a legacy with many different accomplishments, 
such as a failed government controlled healthcare law, the most racially 
divided country since the 60’s, and God knows how many broken promises.

But one of those things he can take with him when he leaves office is 
the fact that he will be the first President to ever leave office 
without having achieved at least one year of 3% GDP growth.

 From ZeroHedge:

     We just got another extremely disappointing GDP number.  It was 
being projected that U.S. GDP would grow by 2.5 percent during the 
second quarter of 2016, but instead it only grew by just 1.2 percent. 
In addition, the Census Bureau announced that GDP growth for the first 
quarter of 2016 had been revised down from 1.1 percent to 0.8 percent. 
What this means is that the U.S. economy is just barely hanging on by 
its fingernails from falling into a recession.   As Zero Hedge has 
pointed out, the “average annual growth rate during the current business 
cycle remains the weakest of any expansion since at least 1949″.  This 
is not what a recovery looks like.

     In addition, Barack Obama remains solidly on track to be the only 
president in all of U.S. history to never have a single year when the 
economy grew by at least 3 percent.  Every other president in American 
history, even the really bad ones, had at least one year when U.S. GDP 
grew by at least 3 percent.  But this has not happened under Obama even 
though he has had two terms in the White House.

>
>>       Creation of 1.7 million new jobs, cutting unemployment to 4.1 percent.
> 
> But is this rate up or down from prior years?  Last time I ran the numbers,
> he was down roughly 18%.

You lie a lot.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/01/05/trumps-fi...

On Friday morning, the government’s Bureau of Labor Statistics released 
employment numbers for December, bookending President Trump’s first year 
in office. While the number of jobs added was lower than many analysts 
expected — up 148,000 — it was a continuation of the trend of growth 
seen over the course of 2017.

With those numbers in hand, we can now compare Trump’s first year in 
office to his predecessors’. And in that comparison, Trump comes out 
looking pretty good.

Relative to the figure from January in each president’s first year in 
office (excluding those presidents who took office after a death or 
resignation), Trump saw one of the biggest percentage-point drops in the 
unemployment rate.

The only presidents with larger drops were Bill Clinton in 1993 (a 
decline of 0.8 points) and Jimmy Carter in 1977 (down 1.1). Both of 
those presidents, though, ended their first years with much higher 
unemployment rates, both over 6 percent.

For example, in the number of jobs created or lost over the year: Under 
Trump, there were 1.8 million more people working in December than in 
January. Under Obama, 4.3 million fewer.

>>       Saw the Dow Jones reach record highs.
> 
> Funny how the Stock Market has been responding this month, eh?

To what, programmed risk-on fund churn?

You MORON.

> Maybe he should have kept that woman in charge of the Fed

The one who jawboned the market down multiple times AND on her way out 
the door?

You MORON!

2015:

https://www.barrons.com/articles/stocks-sink-as-yellen-talks-down-ma...

Leave it to Janet Yellen to sink the stock market.
Stocks Sink as Yellen Talks Down Market
Getty Images

The S&P 500 fell 0.5% to 2,080.15, while the Dow Jones Industrial 
Average dropped 0.5% to 17,841.98. The Nasdaq Composite finished off 
0.4% at 4,919.64.

Who better to blame than Janet Yellen, who's also been accused of 
inflating the stock market? Today, she warned that stock valuations are 
"generally quite high," and fretted about high-yield bonds and leveraged 
loans as well. On Fox Business Network, Allianz's Mohamed El-Erian 
explained why the Fed is worried:

2016:

http://www.afr.com/opinion/columnists/janet-yellen-talks-down-the-u...

Is Janet Yellen, head of the US Federal Reserve, fuelling the very 
turbulence on global markets she is so desperately trying to avoid?

That's the question many were asking overnight after global markets 
tumbled, and US bond prices and the Japanese yen jumped, as investors 
scrambled for safe havens.

The sell-off came just one day after the release of the minutes from the 
US Federal Reserve's latest meeting, in which Fed officials worried 
about the darkening global outlook.

2018:


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-04/yellen-calls-pric...

Yellen Says Prices `High' for Stocks, Commercial Real Estate

Outgoing Federal Reserve Chair Janet Yellen said U.S. stocks and 
commercial real estate prices are elevated but stopped short of saying 
those markets are in a bubble.

“Well, I don’t want to say too high. But I do want to say high,” Yellen 
said on CBS’s “Sunday Morning” in an interview recorded Friday as she 
prepared to leave the central bank. “Price-earnings ratios are near the 
high end of their historical ranges.”

Commercial real estate prices are now “quite high relative to rents,” 
Yellen said. “Now, is that a bubble or is it too high? And there it’s 
very hard to tell. But it is a source of some concern that asset 
valuations are so high.”

Yellen, 71, stepped down as Fed chief on Saturday after one term, after 
President Donald Trump opted to replace her with Republican Jerome 
Powell, who’s been a Fed governor since 2012.


>>       A rebound in economic confidence to a 17-year high.
> 
> Has there been a quantitative 'rebound' in actual median income to support it?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/12/business/economy/income-rebound-r...

American households saw strong income growth last year, the bureau 
reported, and the gains stretched across the economic spectrum. A 
closely watched measure, median household income, jumped for the second 
straight year, reaching $59,039 — a 3.2 percent increase after inflation.

The bureau also reported that the percentage of Americans living in 
poverty continued to fall last year, while the share with health 
insurance continued to increase.

The data may sharpen the political confrontation between President 
Trump, who is pressing to overhaul the nation’s economic policies, and 
Democrats, who now have more ammunition to argue that the changes Mr. 
Trump seeks would mess with success.

> 
>>       A new executive order to boost apprenticeships.
> 
> How many have actually been hired?

Do you think things happen instantaneously, fool?

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/11/trump-louisianas-faststart-work-trai...

Trump, listen up: Here's where an apprenticeship program is really 
working in the US

     Trump signed an executive order to roughly double the funding, to 
$200 million in the US, for apprenticeship grants.
     Trump wants to create 4.5 million new apprenticeships over the next 
five years, which would be almost 10 times the total that exist now.
     Louisiana's workforce-training program, FastStart, has trained 
26,000 workers for 175 companies.
     FastStart forms project-specific public-private partnerships with 
two-year and four-year colleges to provide curricula and training 
services that support job growth at client companies.



> 
>>       A move to boost computer sciences in Education Department programs.
> 
> Was the Education Dept's budget increased or cut?

Does the budget include this or not, shitbag?

https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/26/tech-support-trump-stem-educatio...


Tech companies support Trump’s STEM education plan (updated)
The president also directed Betsy DeVos to prioritize STEM and computer 
science education.


> 
>>       Prioritizing women-owned businesses for some $500 million in SBA loans.
> 
> Was the SBA's budget increased or cut?

Does cutting the fat from a budget eliminate this?

https://www.sba.gov/blogs/supporting-women-business

https://www.fundera.com/blog/where-to-find-small-business-grants-for...

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-t...

         In February, the President signed into law the INSPIRE Women 
Act (H.R. 321) and the Promoting Women in Entrepreneurship Act (H.R. 
255) to promote women entering and leading the STEM fields – science, 
technology, engineering, and math – and preserve America as an 
innovation hub for generations to come.

·        The Small Business Administration (SBA) is focused on using 
privately raised capital and SBA-guaranteed leverage, stimulating 
technological innovation through small businesses, and supporting parts 
of the country where there are gaps in the entrepreneurial ecosystem.

o   SBA’s microloan program provides loans up to $50,000 and technical 
assistance for small businesses and not-for-profit childcare centers.

o   Women’s Business Centers (WBCs) in more than 100 locations across 
the United States promote the growth of women-owned businesses through 
training and technical assistance, and provide access to credit and 
capital, Federal contracts, and international trade opportunities

o   The Small Business Technology Transfer is a program that extends 
funding opportunities of $295 million annually to forge public-private 
partnerships that can help commercialize U.S. Federal research and 
development.

·        The U.S. Department of Commerce’s Office of Innovation and 
Entrepreneurship fosters the commercialization of new technologies, 
products, processes, and services.

o   In September 2017, Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross announced that 
42 organizations from 28 states would receive $17 million through the 
Regional Innovation Strategies program, a grant program for American 
entrepreneurship ecosystem supporters.

o   In October, Secretary Ross announced $30 million to support 35 
projects in 16 states under the 2017 Assistance to Coal Communities 
initiative, which include activities and programs that support economic 
diversification, job creation, capital investment, workforce development 
and re-employment opportunities.


>> Killing job-stifling regulations
> 
> Such as, and at what longer term price/trade-off?   Are there specifics to support?

Wow, are you ever brain dead, even for a paid leftard shill..

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/14/us/politics/trump-federal-regulat...

Echoing his days as a real estate developer with the flair of a 
groundbreaking, Mr. Trump used an oversize pair of scissors to cut a 
ribbon his staff had set up in front of two piles of paper, representing 
government regulations in 1960 (20,000 pages, he said), and today — a 
pile that was about six feet tall (said to be 185,000 pages).

His efforts — his staff said that the rules already rolled back had 
saved $8.1 billion in regulatory costs over their lifetime, or a total 
of an estimated $570 million a year — have brought cheers from the 
business community, most notably from companies that will benefit from 
the rollbacks.

A survey of chief executives released this month by the Business 
Roundtable found that, for the first time in six years, executives did 
not cite regulation as the top cost pressure facing their companies.

“C.E.O.s appear to be responding to the administration’s energetic focus 
on regulation,” Joshua Bolten, the roundtable’s president, said this month.

In total, the administration has so far formally revoked 67 rules, 
according to Neomi Rao, the head of the White House agency that oversees 
rulemaking, while 635 planned regulations were withdrawn, 244 
regulations that had been proposed were put on “inactive” status and 700 
regulations were “delayed.”

>>       Signed an Executive Order demanding that two regulations be killed
>> for every new one creates. He beat that big and cut 16 rules and
>> regulations for every one created, saving $8.1 billion.
> 
> A highly arbitrary rule to begin with. 

Awesome, Obummer loved arbitary too!


> And just who was saving that money?   What
> was the specific benefit to the taxpayers?

Business GROWTH, you dolt.

More gross revenues = more gross tax receipts.

> 
>>       Signed 15 congressional regulatory cuts.
> 
> Were two of these to the SBA and Education Dept?

Are you so brain dead you think either one of those agencies is 
"Congressional"?

Gawd...

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/congress-joins-trump-war-on-regs-...

"The measures outlined here could repeal more than $19 billion in costs 
and eliminate 10.4 million hours of paperwork. If these riders 
successfully make it through the process, expect this practice to 
continue as other legacy regulations are addressed through the 
legislative branch," the report added.

Batkins highlighted the committee's targets:

Financial Services

     Repeal of Volcker Rule: $4.3 billion and 2.3 million hours.
     Limiting Implementation of Blade-Contact Rule: $2.5 billion.
     Repeal Individual Mandate: 5 million paperwork hours.
     Prohibits SEC from requiring companies to disclose political spending.
     Requires OMB to report on costs of Dodd-Frank.

Energy and Water

     Withdrawing "Waters of the United States" Rule: $462 million.
     Prohibits regulators from restricting firearms on Army Corps lands.

Agriculture

     Limiting "Trans Fat Ban:" $11 billion.
     Limiting "Cigar and Vaping" Rule: $1.1 billion and 1.6 million 
paperwork hours.
     Allows flexibility for schools implementing whole grain school 
lunch standards.
     Prevents further implementation of school lunch sodium standards.
     Allows flexibility for schools serving low-fat flavored milk.



>>       Withdrew from the Obama-era Paris Climate Agreement, ending the
>> threat of environmental regulations.
> 
> Instead, we have the threat of economic disruption from climate change increased.

There is no "climate change/global warming", it's a fucking myth.

As for "economic disruption", well, yeah, let's see what gay Paree was 
going to do to US:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/the-paris-climate-agreement-was-a...

Pulling us out of this bad deal is good news. As it was negotiated under 
the prior administration, this agreement imposed a goal of reducing U.S. 
carbon emissions by nearly 30 percent over a decade. The so-called 
"Obama pledge" accompanied a host of related federal regulations that 
would have damaged the economy, killed jobs, and driven up energy prices 
for families across the country.

Sticking with the deal could have cost 2.7 million lost jobs by 2025, 
according to a National Economic Research Associates study. And the 
effects would be widespread, including a loss of 440,000 manufacturing 
jobs, according to NERA's numbers. Meanwhile, according to proponents' 
own data, the agreement would have no discernible effect on global 
temperatures.

And the longer the agreement ran, the worse it would get, according to 
NERA's data. By 2040, production (and thus employment) would be 
decimated in a host of industries, including a 38 percent cut in iron 
and steel, 31 percent in natural gas, and 86 percent for coal. At that 
point, the total economic cost to the U.S. would approach $3 trillion in 
lost gross domestic product and 6.5 million industrial jobs.

Speaking last week, Trump correctly noted that the damage is not spread 
evenly across the globe, noting that China and India can proceed with 
adding coal-fired capacity well into the future. "The agreement doesn't 
eliminate coal jobs, it just transfers those jobs out of America and the 
United States and ships them to foreign countries," he noted.

>>       Signed an Executive Order cutting the time for infrastructure
>> permit approvals.
> 
> A Dilbert-esque "Work faster!" from the pointy hair boss?

Another snarky dismissal of actual improvements being made.

You are subhuman filth!

>>       Eliminated an Obama rule on streams that Trump felt unfairly
>> targeted the coal industry.
> 
> At the cost of jobs in non-coal energy sectors.  

Boo fucking hoo!

> Solar lost ~10,000 domestic jobs.

Solar is a tax subsidy slut of improper proportions.

> This is called "Picking Winners & Losers", which had been an anathema to
> Republicans within the past decade.

But it was OK for Dems to play that game and then what happened:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/30/as-many-as-fifty-obama-backed-gre...

The October bankruptcy of solar company Satcon Technology Corp. puts the 
number of bankrupt or troubled green energy companies as high as 50, 
according to one estimate.

The blog Green Corruption’s “Obama green-energy failure” list contains 
23 bankrupt and 27 troubled green energy companies which were backed by 
the federal government. This list uses data compiled by the Heritage 
Foundation, but also includes some things the conservative think tank 
doesn’t.

According to the Heritage Foundation, $80 billion was set aside in the 
2009 stimulus package for clean energy loans, grants, and tax credits, 
and 10 percent of these funds have gone to companies that have filed for 
bankruptcy or are in dire straits.

The Green Corruption estimates are on the high end as others have total 
number of bankrupt and troubled green energy firms much lower.

The Heritage Foundation’s list contains 34 companies that have either 
filed for bankruptcy or are faltering as of October 18. Of those 34 
listed, nineteen have filed for bankruptcy and fifteen are considered 
faltering.

The Heritage list only contains companies that received federal funds 
from the Obama administration’s Energy Department and other agencies, 
and does not include “other state, local, and federal tax credits and 
subsidies,” which would raise the amount of taxpayer dollars that was 
given to these companies.

Another list compiled by the Senate Republican Policy Committee shows a 
total of 19 government-backed green energy companies that have either 
gone bankrupt, are in distress, or failing — twelve bankrupt, six in 
distress, and one failing.

The committee’s list, however, does not include the most recent green 
energy failure, Satcon Technology Corp., which received a $3 million DOE 
grant earlier this year and filed for bankruptcy on Oct. 17, making it 
the second green energy company to file for bankruptcy that week.

Electric car battery manufacturer and recipient of a $249 million loan 
guarantee, A123 Systems filed for bankruptcy the day before.

>   
>> Fair trade
> 
> Vague.  

Bullshit!

> And saber-rattling on steel has already harmed several US industries,
> including a Steel Mill in PA that's on the verge of shutting down.

Weak companies fail of their own bad management, toad.

But when they're owned by Froggies, well...

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2009/07/mone-j14.html

ArcelorMittal, the world’s largest steel producer announced in May that 
it would close its coke-baking ovens this month, leaving only a few 
dozen maintenance workers in a facility that once employed more than 
7,000 people.

The shutdown of the coke ovens is yet another blow to the already 
devastated town, located 25 miles south of Pittsburgh. In a statement, 
the company says that the shutdown is due to the drop in demand for 
steel, but that it plans to do repair work on the mill and will reopen 
it when demand for steel picks up. Workers at the mill, however, said 
that the company has been stockpiling coke for months and now has enough 
to last nine months to a year.

>>       Made good on his campaign promise to withdraw from the
>> Trans-Pacific Partnership.
> 
> Translation:  retreated from being a leader.

By keeping his promise?

Wow, you really are a shitbag liar.

>> Opened up the North American Free Trade Agreement for talks to
>> better the deal for the U.S.
> 
> Translation:  "Started a Journey".   What's been accomplished to date?  Zero?

Do you think everything is done overnight?

Drop dead, assbag.

>>       Worked to bring companies back to the U.S., and companies like
>> Toyota, Mazda, Broadcom Limited, and Foxconn announced plans to open
>> U.S. plants.
> 
> Many of which had already been planned & budgeted .. but they're now being
> politically savvy and brown-nosing.

Iow you ADMIT he nailed it!

Nice.

> In the meantime, Carrier still moved to Mexico.

SFW?

Any idea what Exxon plans to do in the USA?

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/exxon-to-invest-more-than-50-billi...

Exxon Mobil Corp. XOM, +0.64% said Monday it plans to invest more than 
$50 billion over the next five years to expand its U.S. business, tying 
the plan in part to the U.S. tax overhaul. The money would go to 
increase oil production in West Texas' Permian Basin, the only 
oil-producing domestic region to earn a mention, to general improvements 
in infrastructure, and to new plants, the company said in a blog post 
penned by Chief Executive Darren Woods. "These investments are 
underpinned by the unique strengths of our company and enhanced by the 
historic tax reform recently signed into law," he said.


>>       Worked to promote the sale of U.S products abroad.
> 
> Translation:  "Started a Journey".   What's been accomplished to date?  Zero?

Do you think everything is done overnight?

Drop dead, assbag.

> 
>>       Made enforcement of U.S. trade laws, especially those that involve
>> national security, a priority.
> 
> Translation:  "Started a Journey".   What's been accomplished to date?  Zero?

Do you think everything is done overnight?

Drop dead, assbag.

> 
>>       Ended Obama’s deal with Cuba.
> 
> Just what "deal" was this?

Are you insane?

Or just as stupid as you sound?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/16/trump-says-hes-canceling...

President Trump, speaking at a Miami theater associated with Cuban 
exiles, announced Friday he is nixing his predecessor’s “one-sided deal” 
with the Communist nation – moving to restrict individual travel to the 
island, crack down on the flow of U.S. cash to the Cuban military and 
demand key reforms in Havana.

While stopping short of a full reversal, Trump said he would challenge 
Cuba to come back to the table with a new agreement.

“Effective immediately, I am canceling the last administration’s 
completely one-sided deal with Cuba,” Trump told a cheering crowd.

A cornerstone of the new policy is to ensure Americans traveling to Cuba 
only support private businesses and services, banning financial 
transactions with the dozens of enterprises run by the military-linked 
corporation GAESA.

The Trump administration also says it will strictly enforce the 12 
authorized categories allowing American citizens to travel to Cuba – 
banning one particular type of travel, known as individual 
“people-to-people” trips, seen as ripe for abuse by would-be tourists.

Most U.S. travelers to Cuba will again be required to visit the island 
as part of organized tour groups run by American companies. Obama 
eliminated the tour requirement, allowing tens of thousands of Americans 
to book solo trips and spend their money with individual 
bed-and-breakfast owners, restaurants and taxi drivers. The rules also 
require a daylong schedule of activities designed to expose the 
travelers to ordinary Cubans.


>> Boosting U.S. energy dominance
> 
> Hint:  that was from fracking, and the export law was changed back in 2015.

Hint: that was imperiled by Obummer's absurd lease cutbacks on drilling.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/04/donald-trump-overturns-o...

Donald Trump overturns Obama bans on drilling as he moves to vastly 
expand US offshore oil

It would be the most expansive US offshore drilling proposal in decades, 
including opening up federal waters off the California coast for the 
first time in more than 30 years.

The US Interior Department said the proposal called for 47 lease sales 
over five years, a radical increase from the level allowed under 
President Barack Obama.

Weeks before leaving office Mr Obama had banned new oil and gas drilling 
in federal waters in the Atlantic and Arctic oceans, protecting 115 
million acres of waters off Alaska and 3.8 million acres in the Atlantic.

Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke said the new five-year plan would make 
over 90 per cent of the outer continental shelf’s total acreage 
available for leasing.



>>       The Department of Interior, which has led the way in cutting
>> regulations, opened plans to lease 77 million acres in the Gulf of
>> Mexico for oil and gas drilling.
> 
> And the taxpayers get what percent commission?

https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/trumps-new-drilling-poli...

According to the Institute for Energy Research, the unlocking of the 
Pacific outer continental shelf alone will increase output of oil 
production by $24.7 billion within seven years. The IER projects that 
over the same time period, unlocking all onshore and offshore lands 
would boost federal revenues by $35.8 billion and state and local 
revenue by $10 billion and create 552,000 jobs. And given that oil is 
the lifeblood of an economy, greater supply of it will reduce the cost 
of almost all vital goods and services.

A funny thing happens when we responsibly utilize the gifts God bestows. 
We get more of them. For years, liberals warned about scarcity of 
resources and the approaching era of “peak oil,” yet the more oil we 
use, the more we discover, along with innovative technologies to more 
efficiently extract it. Last year’s IEA World Energy Outlook once again 
raised its estimate of projected recoverable reserves by 30 percent to 
105 billion barrels. It is the Hanukkah oil miracle of America. God has 
blessed this country with such an abundance of natural resources that we 
are doing pretty well, despite the debt, dependency, and soft socialism 
through our mismanaged government. Whether we deserve it or not, God 
renews his creation every day.

> 
>>       Trump traveled the world to promote the sale and use of U.S. energy.
> 
> I have a frequent flier account too...

Use it to go back to your native Russia then, Ivan.

>>   Expanded energy infrastructure projects like the Keystone XL
>> Pipeline snubbed by Obama.
> 
> The Canadian tar sands are pretty rude environmentally. 

Fucking Canuck problem, not ours.

> Personally, I would
> have allowed it but imposed a carbon tax on every bbl that transits:  let the
> market decide from there.

Carbon taxes are BULLSHIT from a mewling statist.

You reek of Al Bore.

>== 
>>       Ordered the Environmental Protection Agency to kill Obama’s Clean
>> Power Plan.
> 
> Picking winners & losers ... again

Good.

This will bring DOWN consumer utility costs.

http://instituteforenergyresearch.org/analysis/obamas-clean-power-p...

Energy Ventures Analysis (EVA) just released its analysis of the EPA’s 
“Clean Power Plan” (CPP), which mandates a 32 percent reduction of 
carbon dioxide emissions from the electric generating sector by 2030 
from 2005 levels. While EPA claims the regulation will be virtually cost 
free, this study finds:

     Consumers will pay an additional $214 billion by 2030;
     45 states will see double digit increases in wholesale electricity 
costs; and
     16 states will see a 25 percent or higher increase in wholesale 
electricity costs.

Further, 41,000 megawatts of perfectly good electric generating capacity 
will be forced to prematurely retire, costing the nation $64 billion to 
needlessly replace. While the costs of the regulation are high, the 
carbon dioxide reductions are almost non-existent. The regulation would 
reduce global carbon dioxide emissions by less than 1 percent and global 
temperatures by 0.02 degrees Celsius by 2100, according to EPA’s own 
models.[i]  The CPP appears to be more of an excuse to fundamentally 
transform the nation’s electrical generating system from a reliable and 
affordable one to one that burdens Americans with costly and unreliable 
energy, consistent with President Obama’s promise to make “electricity 
prices necessarily skyrocket.”


>>       EPA is reconsidering Obama rules on methane emissions.
> 
> Another corporate give-away.

Great!

They after all are who EMPLOY people in this nation, commie turd.

>> Protecting the U.S. homeland
> 
> Translation:  made highly provocative statements which alientated allies and
> motivated terrorists.

Terrorists need no motivation to be terrorists, you appeasing 
limp-wristed traitor!

And "allies" can fucking well start acting like allies!

>>       Laid out new principles for reforming immigration and announced
>> plan to end "chain migration," which lets one legal immigrant to bring
>> in dozens of family members.
> 
> Illustrated his ignorance of history in how these were created with the intent
> to provide an immigration advantage to white christian europeans.

GUFFAW!

Seriously?

OMG, if true it's even BETTER than I imagined!

> Provided zero citizenships for the DACA's & Dreamers, despite his promise to do so.

This nation is not a Lotto ticket to be handed to illegals and their 
chain migration rellies, you fucking TRAITOR!

> 
>>       Made progress to build the border wall with Mexico.
> 
> Translation:  a Call for Proposals in the CBD.

It'll get done.

First steps first.

>>       Ended the Obama-era “catch and release” of illegal immigrants.
> 
> Which never existed?

LIAR!


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/4/obama-reinstates-cat...

The Obama administration has revived the maligned illegal immigrant 
“catch-and-release” policy of the Bush years, ordering Border Patrol 
agents not to bother arresting and deporting many new illegal 
immigrants, the head of the agents’ labor union revealed Thursday.

Brandon Judd, president of the National Border Patrol Council, told 
Congress that Homeland Security was embarrassed by the number of illegal 
immigrants not showing up for their deportation hearings, but instead of 
cracking down on the immigrants, the department ordered agents not to 
arrest them in the first place — meaning they no longer need to show up 
for court.

Mr. Judd said the releases are part of President Obama’s “priorities” 
program, which orders agents to worry chiefly about criminals, national 
security risks and illegal immigrants who came into the U.S. after Jan. 
1, 2014. Mr. Judd said illegal immigrants without serious criminal 
convictions have learned that by claiming they came before 2014 — 
without even needing to show proof — they can be released immediately 
rather than being arrested.

“Immigration laws today appear to be mere suggestions,” Mr. Judd 
testified to the House Judiciary Committee’s immigration subcommittee. 
“That fact is well known in other countries.”

> 
>>       Boosted the arrests of illegals inside the U.S.
> 
> Let's see the numbers.  

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-arrests-illegal-immigrants-soar-trumps...

Washington (AFP) - US arrests of illegal immigrants soared in the first 
year of president Donald Trump's administration while border crossings 
have plummeted, the Department of Homeland Security announced Tuesday.

Announcing the success of one of Trump's key campaign promises to slow 
the flow of people sneaking into the country from Central America, DHS 
said there was still a need to build a wall on the border with Mexico 
even if crossings had fallen to a record low.

In the fiscal year to September 30, Immigration and Customs Enforcement 
(ICE), one of two key DHS immigration enforcement agencies, arrested 
143,470 people it said were in the country illegally, 30 percent more 
than the previous year.

Counting just from January when Trump became president, ICE said, 
arrests surged by 40 percent.


> Including the numbers which were low hanging fruit of
> essentially zero objective safety risk (i.e., no criminal backgrounds) as well as
> those of the "bad guys" that were promised to have been the priority.

Customs and Border Protection, the other key agency, which patrols the 
border, said it had apprehended 310,531 people trying to sneak in, 
nearly all along the southern border.

That apprehensions figure, which is seen as an indicator of how many 
people overall are getting into the United States illegally, fell from 
the previous year to the lowest level on record, the CBP said.

That suggests significant success in cracking down on border crossers, 
they said.

> 
>>       Doubled the number of counties participating with Immigration and
>> Customs Enforcement charged with deporting illegals.
> 
> Definition fo "participating" is ... what?

Are you really this stupid?

Like convincing Mexico to quit letting central Americans use them as a 
doormat.



>>       Removed 36 percent more criminal gang members than in fiscal 2016.
> 
> Which included how many which have been found to have been misidentified?

I do not give a flying fuck!

> 
>>       Started the end of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival program.
> 
> Number of DACA's granted citizenship is ... still zero, isn't it?

Is the deal done yet?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-dreamers-daca-imm...

  WASHINGTON — The Justice Department announced on Tuesday it is ending 
DACA, the Obama-era program that allowed undocumented immigrants who 
came to the U.S. as children to remain in the country, while also giving 
Congress a six-month window to possibly save the policy.

Under the plan, announced by Attorney General Jeff Sessions, the Trump 
administration will stop considering new applications for legal status 
dated after Tuesday, but will allow any DACA recipients with a permit 
set to expire before March 5, 2018, the opportunity to apply for a 
two-year renewal if they apply by October 5.

The Department of Homeland Security will recognize DACA authorizations 
until they expire at the end of their two-year lifespans, which means 
the program runs out at different times for different recipients, senior 
DHS officials said. The last authorization would end March 5, 2020.

> and so on....

And fuck you very much you Goddamned leftarde TRAITOR to America!
> 
> 
> 
>>       Ditto for other amnesty programs like Deferred Action for Parents
>> of Americans.
>>       Cracking down on some 300 sanctuary cities that defy ICE but still
>> get federal dollars.
>>       Added some 100 new immigration judges.
>>
>> Protecting communities
>>
>>       Justice announced grants of $98 million to fund 802 new cops.
>>       Justice worked with Central American nations to arrest and charge
>> 4,000 MS-13 members.
>>       Homeland rounded up nearly 800 MS-13 members, an 83 percent
>> one-year increase.
>>       Signed three executive orders aimed at cracking down on
>> international criminal organizations.
>>       Attorney General Jeff Sessions created new National Public Safety
>> Partnership, a cooperative initiative with cities to reduce violent crimes.
>>
>> Accountability
>>
>>       Trump has nominated 73 federal judges and won his nomination of
>> Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court.
>>       Ordered ethical standards including a lobbying ban.
>>       Called for a comprehensive plan to reorganize the executive branch.
>>       Ordered an overhaul to modernize the digital government.
>>       Called for a full audit of the Pentagon and its spending.
>>
>> Combatting opioids
>>
>>       First, the president declared a Nationwide Public Health Emergency
>> on opioids.
>>       His Council of Economic Advisors played a role in determining that
>> overdoses are underreported by as much as 24 percent.
>>       The Department of Health and Human Services laid out a new
>> five-point strategy to fight the crisis.
>>       Justice announced it was scheduling fentanyl substances as a drug
>> class under the Controlled Substances Act.
>>       Justice started a fraud crackdown, arresting more than 400.
>>       The administration added $500 million to fight the crisis.
>>       On National Drug Take Back Day, the Drug Enforcement Agency
>> collected 456 tons.
>>
>> Protecting life
>>
>>       In his first week, Trump reinstated and expanded the Mexico City
>> Policy that blocks some $9 billion in foreign aid being used for abortions.
>>       Worked with Congress on a bill overturning an Obama regulation that
>> blocked states from defunding abortion providers.
>>       Published guidance to block Obamacare money from supporting abortion.
>>
>> Helping veterans
>>
>>       Signed the Veterans Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act
>> to allow senior officials in the Department of Veterans Affairs to fire
>> failing employees and establish safeguards to protect whistleblowers.
>>       Signed the Veterans Appeals Improvement and Modernization Act.
>>       Signed the Harry W. Colmery Veterans Educational Assistance Act, to
>> provide support.
>>       Signed the VA Choice and Quality Employment Act of 2017 to
>> authorize $2.1 billion in additional funds for the Veterans Choice Program.
>>       Created a VA hotline.
>>       Had the VA launch an online “Access and Quality Tool,” providing
>> veterans with a way to access wait time and quality of care data.
>>       With VA Secretary Dr. David Shulkin, announced three initiatives to
>> expand access to healthcare for veterans using telehealth technology.
>>
>> Promoting peace through strength
>>
>>       Directed the rebuilding of the military and ordered a new national
>> strategy and nuclear posture review.
>>       Worked to increase defense spending.
>>       Empowered military leaders to “seize the initiative and win,”
>> reducing the need for a White House sign off on every mission.
>>       Directed the revival of the National Space Council to develop space
>> war strategies.
>>       Elevated U.S. Cyber Command into a major warfighting command.
>>       Withdrew from the U.N. Global Compact on Migration, which Trump saw
>> as a threat to borders.
>>       Imposed a travel ban on nations that lack border and anti-terrorism
>> security.
>>       Saw ISIS lose virtually all of its territory.
>>       Pushed for strong action against global outlaw North Korea and its
>> development of nuclear weapons.
>>       Announced a new Afghanistan strategy that strengthens support for
>> U.S. forces at war with terrorism.
>>       NATO increased support for the war in Afghanistan.
>>       Approved a new Iran strategy plan focused on neutralizing the
>> country’s influence in the region.
>>       Ordered missile strikes against a Syrian airbase used in a chemical
>> weapons attack.
>>       Prevented subsequent chemical attacks by announcing a plan to
>> detect them better and warned of future strikes if they were used.
>>       Ordered new sanctions on the dictatorship in Venezuela.
>>
>> Restoring confidence in and respect for America
>>
>>       Trump won the release of Americans held abroad, often using his
>> personal relationships with world leaders.
>>       Made good on a campaign promise to recognize Jerusalem as the
>> capital of Israel.
>>       Conducted a historic 12-day trip through Asia, winning new
>> cooperative deals. On the trip, he attended three regional summits to
>> promote American interests.
>>       He traveled to the Middle East and Europe to build new
>> relationships with leaders.
>>       Traveled to Poland and on to Germany for the G-20 meeting where he
>> pushed again for funding of women entrepreneurs.
>>
>> Paul Bedard, the Washington Examiner's "Washington Secrets" columnist,
>> can be contacted at pbedard@washingtonexaminer.com