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On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 5:06:22 PM UTC-5, the_andr...@yahoo.com wrote:
> https://www.wsj.com/articles/congresss-gift-to-blue-state-taxpayers-...

First sentence:

"The great American migration out of high-tax states like New York and Illinois may be about to
accelerate. "

If this is true then the post I made a few weeks earlier has been confirmed by the WSJ (i.e.,
they'll move to low-tax red states but they will stay blue and turn those states blue)

But I've already seen some proposals to get around this.  One interesting proposal is for these
states to replace their income tax with payroll tax.  The tax bill leaves payroll tax deductible, as
an expense for businesses. 

	
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On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 7:41:22 PM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 5:06:22 PM UTC-5, the_andr...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > https://www.wsj.com/articles/congresss-gift-to-blue-state-taxpayers-...
> 
> First sentence:
> 
> "The great American migration out of high-tax states like New York and Illinois may be about to
accelerate. "
> 
> If this is true then the post I made a few weeks earlier has been confirmed by the WSJ (i.e.,
they'll move to low-tax red states but they will stay blue and turn those states blue)
> 
> But I've already seen some proposals to get around this.  One interesting proposal is for these
states to replace their income tax with payroll tax.  The tax bill leaves payroll tax deductible, as
an expense for businesses.

The other option is for these high tax Blue states to start cutting taxes
and stop dumping money into every dimwitted, left wing socialist money pit
they can dream-up.  

For example, California taxpayers spend $25.3 Billion a year on illegal immigrants.
And that's just one example of left wing Blue state stupidity.   What do you think
California workers and small businesses could do with those $Billions?

Irish Mike

I thank God Obama is gone, Hillary is history and President Trump is in office. 

	
From: J. Hugh Sullivan <Eagle@bellsouth.net>
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>But I've already seen some proposals to get around this.  One interesting proposal is for these
states to replace their income tax with payroll tax.  The tax bill leaves payroll tax deductible, as
an expense for businesses. 

So all taxpayers would become employees of the state and periodic
statements of payments and withholdings would have to be prepared.

If the state became the employer of all taxpayers might there be
additional regulations to abide by?

Would the state become a business vice a state?

I suggest sending your kids to law school. There will be new
ambulances to chase.

Hugh


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It's possibly true, except for the fact, that if they're okay with high taxes, they'll just stay
where they are. 

Most of them, NYC metro migrants to NC excepted, understand the impact of doing it the way we did it
in ____. So, they eschew some of the things that bloated their tax bills. 

Since moving won't help them offload their tax burden on others, maybe they'll just stop asking for
higher taxes.